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TonK
05-23-2001, 10:48 AM
Seems everyone is suspicious of buying an AES title these days...

Take the infamous Metal Slug auction for example!

How many posts questioned whether or not the cart was real or fake?

Now everyone is getting suspicious about their carts...whether its a fake insert, manual, game ECT...

Although I DO NOT approve of AES destruction for the collector to obtain "UNRELEASED" carts to complete their collection...You can tell that these games are "fake" - They were NEVER released on the AES format.

Now we have ULTRA RARE games being converted to sell on ebay and to unknowing customers.

AES is on its way downhill...All the destruction of old carts and the surfacing of new ones...Like Forest once said "...you never know what your gonna get!"


clear cases on AES -Big Bear

One AES Cart says to another...

"Looks like your next!"
"We are being EXTERMINATED!"

Dion then reaches for the cart with an EVIL laugh!

Kyo 2000
05-23-2001, 10:58 AM
Tonk, I just don't know. There's so much fear of corruption and getting a fake cart of insert anymore... And a lot of it is justified. People are willing to pay more and more for original carts now, and I'm sure this is partly due to the incoming rush of converted carts, and freaked items. '
Of course, all this conversion can stop anytime, we now have converters anyway...

So what's going to happen? I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Caris Nautilus
05-23-2001, 11:00 AM
Any collectable field where stuff is hot, rare and worth money is gonna have people trying to con with counterfeits.

You just have to be smart and spot the fakes, if you collect rare coins, baseball cards ect. theres fakes involved with both of those.

It's something that will always be around, if their are people to make money off of. If you see a fake, don't buy it, be smart before you buy anything high priced, and you won't have anything to worry about.

And not dealing with dion makes your chances of never getting ripped off go up a whole lot.

TonK
05-23-2001, 11:05 AM
And not dealing with dion makes your chances of never getting ripped off go up a whole lot.
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Thats 100% correct Caris.

TonK
05-23-2001, 11:23 AM
That is a great idea....to bad it's like 11 years to late. I don't think SNK had any Idea that there would be people faking carts so they could make money off their cheap conversions. Also I don't think they thought the prices for Home Carts would reach the level that it has now......It's too bad you have to be soo careful....even with MVS games you have to watch for bootlegs. ASK QUESTIONS to avoid regret later.....That's about all I can say. Also if the person doesn't want to answer some types of questions...then you might have a con.....I hope the corruption stays away from MVS, at least farther away than Home Carts...
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thanks DJ, my point exactly.

Daisuke Jigen
05-24-2001, 02:04 AM
A clear Home cart? Even if it is fake, I want to see that!

LWK
05-24-2001, 02:25 AM
Coming from a person with mvs cd and HC, I completely agree.
Its become a paranoid gaming field.
You dont know whats real because these days it seems for every real kizuna there are about 40 conversions.
I am going to continue to support both mvs and HC, but I wont feel as safe about either as I used to.
Remember all the pirate street fighter 2's?
Just imagine whats out there like BB said "crack that bastard open"
Sad that this even needs to be, if I had a trustable source to begin with I would never have to think this.
SNK did the wrong thing by making paper inserts on cases with a big SNK logo that will puncture the inserts (aka new style cases)
They also have a dot on each side of the case (spine) and sometimes it shows through the insert, all in all there like gold.
HC arent hardcore like mvs because they have a "collectors market" mvs carts are made for people with little dough but want solid gameplay, with out the burden of,"but its valuable".
I am and allways will be a gamer first then collector, its in my blood.
SAMHAIN said, "conversion is blasphemy" in his own words. This is true.
Nothing justufies it these days we have so many options !arcade!'s converter, aes 2 on the way, I almost think that home cart prices are going to drop like flies when these get distributed because the collectors market will fade. This is my opinion.

[ May 24, 2001: Message edited by: Lord Wolfgang Krauser ]

nick_th_fury
05-24-2001, 07:14 AM
(thanks to bastards like Billy Pitt)

Dude, where do you come up with this shit?
You have a knack for saying shit that just highlights how little you know.
You are a newbie. NEWBIE. To the neo online scene.
You may or may not have had a neo for the last few years. But you sure as hell dont know half the people you "name drop".


For your future info:
Billy is a pretty nice guy.
Has never ripped anyone off.
Is always looking out for the "gamer"
& he has never ever sold conversions.
He mainly collects MVS.
So once again you insult a nice guy you know nothing about. Please give it a rest.

LWK
05-24-2001, 07:21 AM
Well I am so sick of the insults.
What the fuck is up lately.
I dont like pitt plain and simple he is not "pretty nice".
He was also featured on ngf's site at one time, and I dont even want to begin with his candid "pioneer" speech,
I AM NOT A NEWBIE!!!!!!!
I have been into the neo since 96 and you dont know me. I started posting on BBS this year, and have had nothing but asshole attitudes from people caliming to be great to the scene, I am only getting more angry as I write yet another vision I have to change to meet your whacked standerds.
DONT KNOW ME!
Simple as that.
Billy pitt is not on my good side.

[ May 24, 2001: Message edited by: Lord Wolfgang Krauser ]

nick_th_fury
05-24-2001, 07:24 AM
I hope the corruption stays away from MVS


Actully it started with MVS. Back when mvs was way way more expensive than the home system.
Unfortunatly, most of the hacked carts are from that time.
So there have always been many hacked versions
of the rare mvs carts floating round.

It was just never an issue before cause no one cared.
Hcarts were collectable, mvs was not.
Its only in the last couple a years that people wanted to buy mvs carts for their collection.
Thus all the worry bout bootlegs.

LWK
05-24-2001, 07:25 AM
I give up.

nick_th_fury
05-24-2001, 07:28 AM
After you called him a bastard?
& you ask bout my attitude?

You are a newbie to this scene in my eyes.
So is 90% of the posters on this bbs.
Most were not here back in say 97, like samhain & I.
I know a few people that still consider us new, cause theve been here since like 94.
Youve been here for like less than a year.
In a couple a years in my eyes youll be an old tymer.


Anyway, thats not the point.
The point is, yes, I have disagreed with some shit Billy has said.

But calling him a bastard cause of conversions is just plain wrong.
He doesnt do conversions.

LWK
05-24-2001, 07:36 AM
Originally posted by nick_th_fury:
<STRONG>After you called him a bastard?
& you ask bout my attitude?

You are a newbie to this scene in my eyes.
So is 90% of the posters on this bbs.
Most were not here back in say 97, like samhain & I.
I know a few people that still consider us new, cause theve been here since like 94.
Youve been here for like less than a year.
In a couple a years in my eyes youll be an old tymer.


Anyway, thats not the point.
The point is, yes, I have disagreed with some shit Billy has said.

But calling him a bastard cause of conversions is just plain wrong.
He doesnt do conversions.</STRONG>

"In a couple a years in my eyes youll be an old tymer."
There is that fucked up word again "tymer"
Why people use these terms in normal sentences is beyond me. (ngf argh)
I am sorry if your friends with him but I cannot help that.

I dont ever want to be considered and old "tymer", or any other ngf crap terms.
I know for a fact I am not the only one who finds these terms weird,
CRUMP, masters of zen, BIG TYMER, its just degrading, and yes billy has done some questionable shit in the past.

nick_th_fury
05-24-2001, 07:45 AM
Actully that was a joke.
I have a dry humor, so sorry if it doesnt come through on a keyboard.

What I was aiming at, is being new isnt a bad thing. It usually (hopefully) that you would judge him based on his dealings with you.

And not based on old baggage that some of us carry around. Hate keeps us warm.

If you dislike BP for a good reason, then I would find nothing wrong at all.
Its just that you explained it cause of conversions.
Ive seen him post some real BS in the past.
God knows Im no innocent.
But he doesnt do conversions, so that seemed very infair to me.

LWK
05-24-2001, 07:51 AM
I know he is a mvs buff, he claims to have pioneered the first type mvs to HC converter. Which may or may not be true.
He wont offer help only because knowone gave it to him. (this is what gets my bad side)
I am new to the BBS scene, but I have seen these crappers for a couple of years now.
I am aware he does not do conversions and the edit is eplained, ( my mistake)

If you like pitt thats fine.

nick_th_fury
05-24-2001, 07:59 AM
Cool man,
I am not a defender of pitt.
I defend the truth.

Im often wrong, but hey, i just try & keep it all straight. This bbs scene has been so twisted, the facts are hard to know unless you
were here & took it all in 1st hand.

Yes, he does sometimes post that he feels
hes a true "pioneer" of the convertors.

I just laugh this off as I disagre 100%.
Hes not a bad sort at all though.

The only true pioneers are the guys who made these suckers.
I can tell you bout nascar raceing, maybe some of you hadnt heard.
But since im the 1st to mention it, i guess im
a true nascar pioneer. hehe

LWK
05-24-2001, 08:05 AM
I am sorry I jumped to conclusions, he may be cool or not, I jumped enough said.
If I see DSD or ill complain about his character that says something and his little "review" ngf style-just caught me wrong.
I still jumped though.
I am a newbie so when I view certain members here I am on good terms with and they tell me about a dead beat character in the neo scene then I just take there word for it. And pitt takes more credit then he deserves.
Lets not let this thread develope into another war, god knows we dont need it.

nick_th_fury
05-24-2001, 08:12 AM
Lets not let this thread develope into another war, god knows we dont need it.
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I agree.
I wasnt slamming you, I was on "best behavior" mode. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
Well maybe just a little, but just a little.

Takes a big personality to admit your
mistaken, so I do respect that.


I will give you a bit of info on this.
There have been a couple of people that
felt their ngf "interviews" were taken out of context.
One guy that was posted told me that they put that up,
& he was like "what the fuck?" Thats not what i was meaning. Take it down. & they wouldnt.

Now that just 2nd hand to you.
I dont have all the facts here, but it does make me go hmmmm.

[ May 24, 2001: Message edited by: nick_th_fury ]

LWK
05-24-2001, 08:52 AM
Once again dion rears his ugly head.
He miss conceived billy and I apoligize to him.
I did not know that he even twisted people's very opinions, which is absurd.
In the future if something I say is off I want you to say what you feel, dont silence for anyone maybe thats why I get in so much trouble lately <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

Daisuke Jigen
05-25-2001, 01:30 AM
So do I get to see a clear HC or not?