The jp. MS3 re-release artwork will be ...

... exactly the same as in the original release (according to the English MS3 FAQ). Dammit SNK wtf !? <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0">
So how shall a serious collector distinguish between the two versions? Seems to be not possible. <IMG SRC="smilies/mad2.gif" border="0">
Was it that difficult to change SOMETHING?
I`m pissed.

That's good so people will not jackup the price saying "first print" or something <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

Kyo,

Why are you pissed? The Original MS3 price has dropped? At least Neo Geo is still alive.

Originally posted by Liquid Snake:
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I agree silent.
The collectors market is bullshit IMO.
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Even worse is collectors who collect and NEVER play there shit.
Its a joke if you ask me, neo games were made to be used. Not fine bone china, not antiques. The were meant to be used.

Kyo,

Why are you pissed?

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Because I needn't buy the re-release if they`re exactly the same and the original
does not keep its value I paid for a year
ago. I really was hoping up until now that they would change the insert at least a slight bit. <IMG SRC="smilies/annoyed.gif" border="0">

i know at least other 5 people

they pre-ordered the game thinkin

hey its gonna be different

i already have my first print slug 3

if they put this out and its different

i gotta have both


i rule the world !!

and all that

it aint gonna happen..........


their loss

its good for people without slug 3
( meself included )


but lets be frank

if i paid...say....700 for motw

and after a month or so snk made other 1000 copies

with people buying em for 280

id be a bit pissed


who wouldnt

[ August 30, 2001: Message edited by: Fran ]

Originally posted by Kyokugen Star:
<STRONG>Because I needn't buy the re-release if they`re exactly the same and the original
does not keep its value I paid for a year
ago. I really was hoping up until now that they would change the insert at least a slight bit. <IMG SRC="smilies/annoyed.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

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Wait and see, there may be differences . . . you never know. <IMG SRC="smilies/eek2.gif" border="0">

and hey bronco

better luck next time,eh?


you can always sell your second slug 3 and you wont lose a single penny


but i doubt you will


you're gonna keep it anyway

one day slug 3 will be worth 600....

AGAIN

just wait

and your time will come

human nature,eh?


BUT

if you wanna sell it...hey...i need it

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one last thing

when people started to discuss about the possibility of this re-release

no one ever said
hey the artworks gonna be different


so its just something you assumed


and you were wrong

but lighten up.........


i feel your pain

if that can ease your pain

Originally posted by Fran:
<STRONG>no one ever said
hey the artworks gonna be different


so its just something you assumed


and you were wrong

but lighten up.........


i feel your pain

if that can ease your pain</STRONG>

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No, but there was something going around, which I think was first posted on NCS's site, stating that the re-release would likely (?) differ from the original in one manner or another. At any rate probability and guarantees are not the same.

way hey nbm


really?

didnae know about that

or,likely....i once knew

then forgot


anyway.....


i wont go back and edit me previous post cos i dont give a fuck

and also cos what i said still stands in all its glory

bronco,im sorry for yer <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">


i still feel your pain


by the way NBM


hows Jubei? <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

I just got a Metl Slug 3 confirmation mail from NCS today. Even though I already have the original release, I will get this one (as well as the English I have already paid for). I did not pay an inflated price for my first Jp, Slug 3 and I can't really imagine that in the long run it will drop below original list. At least not anytime soon.

Besides, I am not really concerned about that anyway. Sure, I would like to get the games for less money, but that's not howthe Neo game works. And if more people get to enjoy this fantastic title, so much the better. I'm not angry at all. I've been playing Slug 3 for the better part of a year. That has to be worth a little bit of extra cash.

In any case, don't sweat the small stuff. If you're in this to build equity in plastic boxes and printed ciruit boards, you're never going to be happy. Pay for the games because you love to play. If you sell them for a profit, consider yourself lucky. My $200 Samurai Shodown is now worth $30...and I love it.

Well said Ryo, I couldn't agree more.

Well a lot of times, when there is a reissue of something, either the material will have some type of dating on it, or the upc number changes. In any case, I to dont want it to be identical because that would make the value of my copy go down.!

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Guess what I have paid for my :

AOF US ($199 when it first came out)
SS2 US ($219 when it first came out)

Now they are worth......$30 or less

Does anyone know why Metal Slug 3 was chosen for re-release? I love the game, but I would have rather seen Mark of the Wolves (not just because I don't have it, either). Here's why:

1. Mark of the Wolves (from what I hear) seems to be the best fighter on the system. Though the Neo is flooded with fighters, there are far too many KoF games, which seems to be the only fighters we've seen in a while, (and which are all very similar)...MotW is a welcome change.

2. When was the last truly great (non KoF) fighter released? 1998, most likely (aside from MotW) with LB2 and RBFF. That was 3 years ago.

3. Finally, and possibly most importantly, MotW and Slug 3 were likely produced in similar numbers, yet MotW is much more a victim of price gougers, with tales of sky high prices topping $800. Slug 3 has been reasonably attainable for just over $400 (which you can't even get the Jap MotW for nowadays).

Don't get me wrong: I'm rejoicing that NCS and Shawn made the Slug 3 re-release happen (esp. the US version!), I am just hoping that in the future we can see a MotW re-release, too.

Let's do our best to support the first ever re-release and help to assure that NCS and Shawn can d it again!

- Kyle

MotW was most likely 'passed over' because it is getting released on the DC. No MS3 on any other system so far.....

This is me, laughing at collector chumps who are crying out in terror about the rerelease of MS3 being identical to the original (and therefore a threat to the game's value.)

You people who put all your shit in little plastic bags, never to be played, looked at, or breathed on, are the reason prices are outta fuckin control. That's the same impulse that allows sinister folks like Dion and Chris to become wealthy off of poor suckers who want to raise their collections to some arbitrary 'elite' status. I say, open the floodgates. Reproduce MOTW and anything else folks really want, as long as the support exists. Games should NOT be an investment item, with prices jacked up waaaaaay beyond the original sale value. Inflated values are antithetical to the cause of supporting SNK and hardcore, 2-D traditional gaming. Those of you who champion price inflation should watch the Simpsons sometime, there's a character who owns a comic book store whom you'll identify with.
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Originally posted by Fran:
<STRONG>way hey nbm


really?

didnae know about that

or,likely....i once knew

then forgot


anyway.....


i wont go back and edit me previous post cos i dont give a fuck

and also cos what i said still stands in all its glory

bronco,im sorry for yer <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">


i still feel your pain


by the way NBM


hows Jubei? <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

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Anyway, leave it up to fucked people to turn possibility into guaranteed reality then get pissed when their stupidity returns to haunt them. I've had a copy for nearly a year and I don't give two fucks about anything else.

And, Jubei... haven't been yet. Too much uni crap to do, and well, I really did mean it when I said his family, who still of course run the store, is crazy. Psychos is quite befitting at times. I'll get down there before classes start though -just hope I don't end up with a bunch of Big Bear figures, since they're C $2.35 each (+ tax?).

So how shall a serious collector distinguish between the two versions?

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In all seriousness, SNK probably doesn't give a rat's arse about "serious collectors" and could care less if thier games retain any sort of "aftermarket" value. More than likely, that's why they feel no need to go to the trouble of altering the cover art for the "re-release" copies of MS3. I still hold fast to my belief that SNK never intended for their products to become highly vaunted "collector's items" and/or for a cottage industry of price-jackers to exploit this relatively small niche for all it's worth.

If SNK does another print eventually of MOTW, I would love to see a horizontal insert using the DC MOTW artwork...The DC cover looks amazing.Any one else think so?>>>

Originally posted by Kyokugen Star:
<STRONG>Because I needn't buy the re-release if they`re exactly the same and the original
does not keep its value I paid for a year
ago. I really was hoping up until now that they would change the insert at least a slight bit. <IMG SRC="smilies/annoyed.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

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Well damn If you're going to gripe like that then you shouldn't be calling youself a gamer.

Do you think any of us who paid an assload for Samurai Shodown, Art of Fighting or The original Fatal Fury was concerned about the price drop at the time?

Hell no!

We just wanted the games. If you're going to whine about the insert not being changed then do it in a constructive manner. You're only looking like a selfish price-gouging jerk by making such a statment.

You should have never EVER considered games as an investment but, a hobby. I paid $475.00 for my copy of Slug 3 new!! Do I care if the value has gone down? Nope not a damn bit.

If you're so upset about the label not being changed for the Japanese one, The don't buy it and be happy with the copy you have. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

@Fran: Thx for sharing your feelings. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

You people who put all your shit in little plastic bags, never to be played, looked at, or
breathed on

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I play every single one of my carts regularly and yet I DO care about the value
of them. Therefore I don`t see the point why
the early adaptors are "punished" for buying
a copy of the first run with its value going
down now because SNK was too lazy to change
something. I have ABSOLUTELY no problem with
MS3 being re-released for everyone too lazy/
stupid or whatever to buy a copy in the first place to enjoy the game now but then please change insert and or manual to protect the investment of the "real" fans who bought it in the first place! Period.

I still hold fast to my belief that SNK never intended for their products to
become highly vaunted "collector's items" and/or for a cottage industry of price-jackers to
exploit this relatively small niche for all it's worth.

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Maybe they didn`t realize it at that time but
with runs of a mere 1000 for some games imo
that was obvious from the moment they decided
to release that limited an amount of home carts. Now we have to live with this regardless of SNKs approval or not.

Well damn If you're going to gripe like that then you shouldn't be calling youself a gamer.

Do you think any of us who paid an assload for Samurai Shodown, Art of Fighting or The
original Fatal Fury was concerned about the price drop at the time?

Hell no!

We just wanted the games. If you're going to whine about the insert not being changed
then do it in a constructive manner. You're only looking like a selfish price-gouging jerk by
making such a statment.

You should have never EVER considered games as an investment but, a hobby. I paid
$475.00 for my copy of Slug 3 new!! Do I care if the value has gone down? Nope not a
damn bit.

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BonusKun, the first FFs, SSs and AoFs were
released in huge quantities and a price drop
was just a question of time. The late huge Meg games were known to de produced only in
small quantities so you were sure to get a game keeping its value. And: Neither do I want to be called a "No-Gamer" nor a "selfish
price-gouging jerk". As stated above I play
and use every single game on a regular basis-
aside from that is it too much too ask that
these high-priced toys keep its value? Ask
yourself how many would preorder US MS3 ONLY
for the replay value of the game without considering the more then likely price increase due to limited supply.

-Kyokugen Star

Originally posted by Kyokugen Star:
<STRONG>... exactly the same as in the original release (according to the English MS3 FAQ). Dammit SNK wtf !? <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0">
So how shall a serious collector distinguish between the two versions? Seems to be not possible. <IMG SRC="smilies/mad2.gif" border="0">
Was it that difficult to change SOMETHING?
I`m pissed.</STRONG>

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Well if it is that important I guess you could pay someone to have them carbon dated for verification purposes.

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[ August 31, 2001: Message edited by: Tiptonium ]

Originally posted by Kyokugen Star:
<STRONG>@Fran: Thx for sharing your feelings. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

BonusKun, the first FFs, SSs and AoFs were
released in huge quantities and a price drop
was just a question of time. The late huge Meg games were known to de produced only in
small quantities so you were sure to get a game keeping its value. And: Neither do I want to be called a "No-Gamer" nor a "selfish
price-gouging jerk". As stated above I play
and use every single game on a regular basis-
aside from that is it too much too ask that
these high-priced toys keep its value? Ask
yourself how many would preorder US MS3 ONLY
for the replay value of the game without considering the more then likely price increase due to limited supply.

-Kyokugen Star</STRONG>

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And yet here you are crying about the insert not being changed. I don't care weather or not the value goes down. To do such a thing or even give a crap about it is STUPID.

Why are you so pissed about a damn insert not being changed. I'm happy the game is being re-released so people who missed the boat can FINALLY enjoy this game that they were unable to purchase on release date.

If MOTW also gets a Re-release*I doubt it* Then I hope SNK doesn't change it either. SNK isn't here to make you money, They are here to make themselves money and just because they didn't want change the insert to something different for the Re-release is quite frankly nobody's business.

Jesus I swear that comment is almost as bad as the person here who said $600.00 was a reasonable price for MOTW. <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

You play your games which I respect but, Don't think that value makes it better or more collectable. I don't get Neo games to collect them and sell em later. I get them to enjoy and continue playing even then.

In regards to the huge quanties onthe original Samurai Shodown, Fatal Fury, and Art of Fighting games. Yes they were released in large quanties but, THEY STILL COST A LOT ON RELEASE.

They are low priced games now and that's it. Do you hear some people here bitchen about them not being worth the $200plus anymore that Neo gamers paid for it?!?!?

No you don't.

Metal Slug 3 shoudl not be ANY different in this aspect. Oh joy the insert isn't getting changed. Why don't you get off that high horse and realize that in time the game's value will probably go a LOT higher now that more people will have it. The Neo*Geo scene is growing with more and more new ggamers popping up out of the woodwork who want these games.

Sooner or later Slug 3 is going to vanish becuase quite honestly, The game kicks enough ass that any person who loves actions games will KEEP it.

This wanting the insert changed would be nothing more than bragging rights for people who bought the 1st run of Slug 3*myself inculded* or want to attest some kind of extra rare value*Mid-Air Wank* to a 1st print game.

Ok I've done enough ranting. Game insert isn't going to be changed so deal with it... <IMG SRC="smilies/veryangry.gif" border="0">

[ August 31, 2001: Message edited by: BonusKun ]

BonusKun:


You THE MAN! <IMG SRC="smilies/cool.gif" border="0">

VERY well said-couldn't agree more.