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I love "A Better Tomorrow 1 & 2", "Bullet in the head", "Killer" and "Hard Boiled".
Has anyone watched his latest movie?
Is it good?
Has anyone watched his latest movie?
Is it good?
John Woo fan roll call
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His stuff with Chow yun fat was gritty, but after he started making a lot of stuff here in the US, it's gone cliche. I mean, Hard Target with Van Damme, I blame that on Van Damme, but then Mission Impossible 2 - it was crap. The part in the end with the doves... 
Broken Arrow was crap too.
Face off was genius though. It was Travolta's only good performance since pulp fiction, but Nick Cage was 10x better. Thus the new movie might have hope. I guess I'll see it later on.
Broken Arrow was crap too.Face off was genius though. It was Travolta's only good performance since pulp fiction, but Nick Cage was 10x better. Thus the new movie might have hope. I guess I'll see it later on.
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Windtalkers was terrible. I'm native, and I had a few asian friends watch the movie with me. We thought it would be a dream come true. Uh, no. This would be the first film of his that we didn't like.
"Misdirected woo.. that'd be pretty much any John Woo film..." ~Homer
"Misdirected woo.. that'd be pretty much any John Woo film..." ~Homer
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Originally posted by EvilWasabi:
<strong>His stuff with Chow yun fat was gritty, but after he started making a lot of stuff here in the US, it's gone cliche. I mean, Hard Target with Van Damme, I blame that on Van Damme, but then Mission Impossible 2 - it was crap. The part in the end with the doves...
Face off was genius though. It was Travolta's only good performance since pulp fiction, but Nick Cage was 10x better. Thus the new movie might have hope. I guess I'll see it later on.</strong><hr></blockquote>
What???
Mission Impossible 2 was the shit!!!
Yeah the doves were stupid to put in but the overall movie including the action kicked ass.
Especially the action sequences with Tom Cruise on the sport bike.
Loopz
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Hard Boiled owns the planet for me. I could watch that movie anytime and just be transfixed.
Windtalkers, from my POV, was a pretty solid film. Overall, I've hated the movies John Woo has made since he got to Hollywood, I would definitely say Windtalkers is the best he's done since he came to America. There's some genuine emotion in the movie, the war scenes are very intense, and he allows the main characters to be "action heroes" without doing anything way over the top or impossible. I had fears we'd see Nicholas Cage and his Indian sidekick with two guns in hand each, taking on swarms of Japanese troops. This never happens though, and like I said, you can tell Woo had a big emotional investment in the story. You can tell there was some massive influence from Saving Private Ryan though, kinda like Hard Boiled definitely gave off a T2-ish kinda vibe. I affectionately call the movie "Saving Private Whitehorse."
Overall solid, worth seeing, just don't expect miracles.
Windtalkers, from my POV, was a pretty solid film. Overall, I've hated the movies John Woo has made since he got to Hollywood, I would definitely say Windtalkers is the best he's done since he came to America. There's some genuine emotion in the movie, the war scenes are very intense, and he allows the main characters to be "action heroes" without doing anything way over the top or impossible. I had fears we'd see Nicholas Cage and his Indian sidekick with two guns in hand each, taking on swarms of Japanese troops. This never happens though, and like I said, you can tell Woo had a big emotional investment in the story. You can tell there was some massive influence from Saving Private Ryan though, kinda like Hard Boiled definitely gave off a T2-ish kinda vibe. I affectionately call the movie "Saving Private Whitehorse."
Overall solid, worth seeing, just don't expect miracles.
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That motorcyle scene in MI2 was one of the Stupidest scenes in a movie of all time.
I think things went downhill for John Woo after he went to the US.
Hell, even Hard Boiled wasn't that great (his last HK movie I think) Sure, its good if all you want is a ton of gun fights, but that's just about it. Nothing really developed. And damn it, things even ended badly: A happy ending? What the hell? It was set up for a sad ending and then they throw on another scene at the end to make it happy? What were you thinking?!?!
I still have hope for his latest movie, even thought the reviews are bad. I better see Nick Cage or anyone in that movie run in the middle of the battlefield with two BARs though.
I think things went downhill for John Woo after he went to the US.
Hell, even Hard Boiled wasn't that great (his last HK movie I think) Sure, its good if all you want is a ton of gun fights, but that's just about it. Nothing really developed. And damn it, things even ended badly: A happy ending? What the hell? It was set up for a sad ending and then they throw on another scene at the end to make it happy? What were you thinking?!?!
I still have hope for his latest movie, even thought the reviews are bad. I better see Nick Cage or anyone in that movie run in the middle of the battlefield with two BARs though.
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Anybody want to buy my Killer: Criterion Collection DVD? It's in darn mint condition, and about to go to ebay after much personal debate (Hardboiled is staying though 
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Email if you want a picture.
And to contribute to this thread; I'm kind of John Woo'd out after following his movies for so long, but my favorites are Once a Thief, Better Tomorrow 2, Bullet in the Head, Hardboiled, and Heroes Shed no Tears.
). Email if you want a picture.
And to contribute to this thread; I'm kind of John Woo'd out after following his movies for so long, but my favorites are Once a Thief, Better Tomorrow 2, Bullet in the Head, Hardboiled, and Heroes Shed no Tears.
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John Woo's best works (Gold medal):
Killer
A Better Tomorrow
Silver medal:
Bullet in the head
Hard Boiled
Once a thief
A better tomorrow II
I don't like any of his US works.
MI 2 is a shitty movie
Action scenes aren't that great (just compare to his HK works and you'll know), stupid martial art fighting......
Only thing I love about the MI2 is the rock climbing at the beginning.
Killer
A Better Tomorrow
Silver medal:
Bullet in the head
Hard Boiled
Once a thief
A better tomorrow II
I don't like any of his US works.
MI 2 is a shitty movie
Action scenes aren't that great (just compare to his HK works and you'll know), stupid martial art fighting......
Only thing I love about the MI2 is the rock climbing at the beginning.
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John Woo had one rather good movie in the US; Face Off.
The rest have sucked balls.
Anyone who thinks MI2 is good work should go have their head checked. It was a let down for me since I am a John Woo fan. To put it quite simply, I fell asleep in the theater watching it.
His Hong Kong films blow away anything he has done in the US and probably will do. Unless he is re-united with Chow Yun Fat, I don't forsee him doing anything on the level he used to. But Chow Yun Fat is pretty much done in Hollywood I think.
John Woo turned into a money whore. Simple enough.
The rest have sucked balls.
Anyone who thinks MI2 is good work should go have their head checked. It was a let down for me since I am a John Woo fan. To put it quite simply, I fell asleep in the theater watching it.
His Hong Kong films blow away anything he has done in the US and probably will do. Unless he is re-united with Chow Yun Fat, I don't forsee him doing anything on the level he used to. But Chow Yun Fat is pretty much done in Hollywood I think.
John Woo turned into a money whore. Simple enough.
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i like all of john woo's movies but sadly i did see windtalkers and mission impossible was shit the movie was just unfinished it seems like the plot was dumb the acting was dumb the only good thing was the action scenes.but i will judge wintalkers when it hit bbv and then i will tell you because everybody has their own oppinion
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Never mind
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John Woo's US movies arent as bad as you make out, actors aside,Hard Target was an excellent film so was Broken Arrow (i like van damme anyway, so bite me). Hard Boiled is my favourite, i've never seen so much action on screen, one of the most exciting films ever.
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They're bad compared to what he was doing in Hong Kong. None of his US stuff even touches A Better Tomorrow 1 & 2.
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Two words : White Doves.....
one of many things I don't like about John Woo.
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one of many things I don't like about John Woo.
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John Woo made the craziest movies in Hong Kong like "the killer" and "hardboiled". He should go back to china because he might have some inspiration to make another crazy gun-fu movie. I hated all the US titles except Face Off. The big hit was ok but only because it was funny.