Does anyone else not care to much for the Dreamcast?

Earthquake · Jun 10, 2002

The reason I used the words not care to much for is because I thought the DC was an amazing console. It's just that the system didn't really have any games that I found worthwhile in the long run. Capcom's fighters didn't really do much for me and the SNK ports were just missing the "something" that made them special on the AES and MVS. I found myself playing the DC's amazing import wrestling games day in and day out, but afterwards, their was nothing left. Please keep in mind that I'm in no way saying I don't like the DC and that I'm just saying that it didn't really offer much for me. Does anyone else feel this way about the DC?

[ June 10, 2002: Message edited by: Earthquake ]

kernow · Jun 10, 2002

When it came out.. I thought

"man, theres no fucking way in hell I'll ever own one of those"

But then perfect conversions of SF3, MVC2, etc, etc came out.. and the arcade stick too.

I quickly ran to buy one.. and haven't regretted it since..

sure I dont care about 90% of its releases because they are 3d yawn-o-thons..

but some titles are pure gems

Neon_Sonic · Jun 10, 2002

Hey, ever heard of Sonic Adventure and SA 2? Samba de Amigo? Shenmue? Phantasy Star Online?!

K9999 · Jun 10, 2002

I've had my DC since launch and I still play it more that my PS2 and Gamecube combined!

There are so many DC games that I love, I can't even list them all. The DC will go down as one of my favorite systems ever.

rarehero · Jun 10, 2002

sonic shenmue and the SNK ports are good reasons
to have one.
i played PSO alot when it first came out.
i pretty much ducked out before the hackers wave
hit though.
i got mine originally for a NiGHTS game.
that teaser in SA1 with the pinball bit was too much.

kernow · Jun 10, 2002

the CPS-3 conversions own

giga-wing
cannon spike
mars matrix

plus being the ONLY console ever to support VGA out from the core, it does it from BIOS..

fuck sony

slerch666 · Jun 10, 2002

I love my DC, I just play it too much anymore since I recently got an MVS.

I generally play a TON of RPGs, and whereas the DC may not have had ass loads of 'em, the ones they did have were amazing (PSO, Grandia). I won Skies Of Arcadia in ~60 Hours (I ran from 2 battles the whole game... yes I am a sick bastard). When those 60 hours were up... I was disappointed because there was no more. I would have easily played the game for another 60 hours and enjoyed every damn minute of it. Skies of Arcadia was the best RPG I've ever played, and I have been playing RPGs since Final Fantasy on the NES. I even went so far as to pay $80 for the official (fuck HK rip-offs!) soundtrack so I could LISTEN to the game when I wasn't able to play it.

Anyway, I bought it the day it came out and never regretted it. I bought a PS2 the day it came out and regretted it fo 6-8 months before something I felt was truely worthy of the $300 I paid for it. NGC is a bit of a disappointment as well.

garou_d · Jun 10, 2002

well, I like the DC !

I don't like 3D fighter pretty much, but I can't stop playing soul calibur on it. it still rocks after 3 years...

the only thing I don't in DC is the pad. but with a stick, it just fine !

NeoDragoN · Jun 10, 2002

Originally posted by kernow:
the CPS-3 conversions own

giga-wing
cannon spike
mars matrix

plus being the ONLY console ever to support VGA out from the core, it does it from BIOS..

fuck sony<hr></blockquote>

actually Giga wing and marz matrix are CPS2!! yes just shows what a 2d power house CPS2 is!!

yes i still play My Dc lots and there are so many games still to get!!

kernow · Jun 10, 2002

there was supposed to be a comma, but yeah the capcom conversions fucking RULE on DC

cannon spike is tops for a laugh

Blaine · Jun 10, 2002

I love the Dreamcast. It has officially taken the spot of favorite console for me.

You could seriouslly go out and buy 10 games, totally at random and about 8 of them would be good and maybe upwards of 4 would be awesome...at least 2 of them.

There's just so many good games in all genres that you can't pass up. To overuse the word 'genre' there are genre-defining games AND genre-defying games.

There's the most good shooters a system has seen since the Saturn, theres good racers, good fighters, good RPGs, good sims, good FPS, good sports...they're all good.

You even have games that totally fly in the face of 'genre' like Seaman, Seventh Cross Evolution, SegaGAGA (is it an RPG? Is it a business SIM?) there's so many games that are just classified as MISC, but it's not just the quantity of those, it's the quality. Seaman is a good game, it's what is called in the industry a Sandbox game. Seventh Cross may be the world's first video game that requires a degree in organic chemistry to beat!

If you don't like it, that's cool...nothing wrong with that.

Personally it's my favorite.

Body rip · Jun 10, 2002

Dreamcast sucks!! It died a miserable death 18 months ago. It had some damn good fighters on it, but that wasn't enough to prevent me from trading that sucker in! RIP!

candycab · Jun 10, 2002

I like it beacuse IMO it was the first attempt by any manufacturer to build a very powerfull system along the lines of a p.c.
To actually take advantage of almost current hardware at the time , like the Power vr chip and a non RISC processor and a fairly large amount of ram.
It has some decent titles and some poor ones.
Im still somewhat unhappy with the whole Saturn support fiasco that SEGA pulled on its loyal followers, but shit happens.
and at least we can enjoy what was released in the Golden Days of SEGA. I.E. saturn & genesis

BeefJerky · Jun 10, 2002

I... LOVE... MY... DREAMCAST! I was pretty skeptical at first, then, a few months ago, I bought one for $50. I was in heaven, I can still taste the sweetness of my first game, Jet Grind Radio, for $10 it was the best deal I had gotten on a game at that point in time. Mmmmm... Oh oops, I'm rambling aren't I? I currently own 23 SPECTACULAR games for it. I wouldn't trade it in to save my soul. To all the people of the forums, peace!

GregN · Jun 10, 2002

I was into the DC since day one. Bought it on launch day 9-9-99. Took a risk on the Agetec early on too, which proved to be a good risk, since 66% of my games are used with the stick.

You are all right. Games of every type imagineable.
RPG
Sports
Racing
Fighters
Shooters
Misc.
Loads of great imports

Too bad there weren't more RPGs and shooters, but what the DC gave us was tops.

This system is truly a legend. With playable games, fun experiments (online play, Seaman, Typing of the Dead, Samba) it was great while it lasted. It's even a piece for collectors.

Not to make use of the overused term, but the DC is last true "hardcore" system.

Magician · Jun 10, 2002

I got just three letters for ya...

SoA

...and that's the bottom line...

Judau · Jun 10, 2002

DC is my all time favorite system

Hardcore all the way, definitely NOT recommended for the casual gamer.

It's funny

The only people that diss DC is for one reason..

It died fast.

WTF kind of a reason is that??

Imports are still being released for it.

Not only that but DC imports are just better than PS2 imports. and thats no opinion brothers, that's a straight up FACT

Capcom also gave its full support to the Dreamcast, they did a hell of a good job

Power Stone and 2
Project Justice
Mars Matrix
SFIII Series
Spawn
Marvel vs Capcom and 2
Cannon Spike
Giga Wing and 2
Capcom vs SNK and 2
Biohazard: Code Veronica
Tech Romancer
Plasma Sword

MANY MANY FUCKING MORE! PLUS IMPORTS!!!!!

You damn PS2 advocates think youre so cool, Capcom released far more games for Dreamcast, and DC didn't even live that long! I only have one thing left to say to the sheep

HAH! <img src="graemlins/tickled.gif" border="0" alt="[Tickled]" />

Spike Spiegel · Jun 10, 2002

Dreamcast fucking owns, and whoever thinks it doesn't is a mainstreamer wannabe. DC has some incredible games, and was the first system to really make that huge graphical leap that made you say "this is truly a next-gen system". I owned one when they were only in Japan. I remember getting my Japanese DC and LB2 on the same day! Oh what a day that was!

Let me say which games I find incredible:

Both Sega Tennis games
All the Street Fighter games (3, 2, alpha)
Capcom vs SNK 1 and 2
Sega Sports Football
Soul Calibur
Skies of Arcadia
Phantasy Star Online
Grandia 2 (these three RPGs are just fantastic)
A very good conversion of Quake 3
Vampire Chronicles
Jet Set Radio
Oh yeah, and some game called "Shenmue"

There's many more, but these are the ones that jump out at me first. What a great system!

Spike

EDIT: Oh yeah, and a perfect emulator for the NES, and great emulation for PC Quake and a well done Lucas Arts emulator (Day of the Tenticle and so on).

[ June 10, 2002: Message edited by: Spike Spiegel ]

TheBigBB · Jun 10, 2002

I place the DC well behind the Saturn and Neo-Geo, but it's alright. I like the games I have on it. Probably Sega Rally 2 is my favorite that I own.

But... All you people who said Shenmue... WTF? As a GAME that is such a pile of crap... The fighting engine is mediocre at best, and you barely get to use it. Most of the game is just wander around and talk to some people in the tiny as hell "city" and then you get some Dragon's Lair type scenes where you push the button at the right time. The story is nothing to wrtie home about, and Ryo says "I see" more than anything else. He's the most 1 dimensional character ever. I've seen more realisitc emotion out of a Furby than out of Ryo.

That game promised extreme realism and a giant world to explore. In the end it's not realistic at all, the gameplay wreaks, and the world is so tiny that over a year after I played it, I can still map out the entire game from memory. You'd be hard pressed to find a game with a smaller area to explore than Shen Mue.

The Dreamcast is decent, but leave this game out.

[ June 10, 2002: Message edited by: dmhawkmoon ]

FeelGood · Jun 10, 2002

Dude, Shenmue is the freakin' SHIT! That game kicks so much ass it doesn't even care anymore. You're looking at it the wrong way, that's why. It isn't an ACTION/FIGHTING game! It's an RPG/ADVENTURE game!

Also, the "world" isn't that small when you consider the grand scope of things. You have the town and the harbor basically, but EVERYONE is going about their business in real time, which is damn sweet.

And why does the story suck? What's cooler than the "Who dunnit" storyline, especially when you get to control someone cool like Ryo and interact the way you do.

If you don't care about "that day" and if you don't like hearing "hey Mr. do you want to play with meeeeee?" then...GET SERIOUS!!!

Oh yeah, DC rocks. Games like Project Justice, Street Fighter III (all of them), Fatal Fury, Last Blade 2, Grandia II, Marvel VS Capcom 2, Guilty Gear X...wow.

FeelGood · Jun 10, 2002

I wasn't going to get one until someone told me he heard that one could import characters from KoF 99 dream match to the NGPC KoF r2 cart. I completely bought it. It was right when the KoF DM games was released too. What a sap. I only have a handful of games I like for it now, but they are true gems. KoF DM on the other hand never gets played. The home cart beats it by a mile.

candycab · Jun 10, 2002

Shenmu was definatly pretty , but I dont know if it lived up to all the months of hype ?
I found it entertaining for about 3 days,then it just seemed like work,and became boaring.

way too much roaming around and haveing to spend hours trying to find the right person to talk to.{for my tastes}

It was pretty neat to be able to play Hang On
and Space Harrier though.

I guess after all those years long ago of doing this type of thing { roaming around } on the C-64
games kinda made the idea of having to do more of it but with fancy graphics this time runed it for me.
I might go back and play it again with a walkthrough so Im not wondering around so much.

The action parts of the game were too far and few between for my tastes.
It just moved too slowly for me.

Verbatum · Jun 10, 2002

The big reason I think the DC stands as a fine system in many views of fellow members, is for games like Shenmue. Truly a work of art in every respect, I fell in love with the entire experience. Original, unique, and majestic. The DC has some fine shooters as well, but the artistic values of many DC games don't excite my palette. Games like Shenmue strike a deep chord in me, and other games for the system just can't hold up to my high expectations.

Still, I'm not so absorbed with what system a game is on. It is the game itself I love, and the hardware itself is not a deciding factor. I enjoy having my DC, and the games I have for it I love.

[ June 10, 2002: Message edited by: Verbatum ]

neobuyer · Jun 10, 2002

While the DC is certainly not my favorite (Not even in my top 3) system of all time, it has one thing that no other system has.............

..........

VIRTUAL ON: ORATORIO FUCKIN' TANGRAM!!!!!!!!!!!!

With the twinsticks it is one of the best 'Arcade-at'home' experiences you can have on any system.

Best game on the DC IMO.

And one of my favorite one-on-one games of all time.

TheBigBB · Jun 10, 2002

Dude, Shenmue is the freakin' SHIT! That game kicks so much ass it doesn't even care anymore. You're looking at it the wrong way, that's why. It isn't an ACTION/FIGHTING game! It's an RPG/ADVENTURE game!
Also, the "world" isn't that small when you consider the grand scope of things. You have the town and the harbor basically, but EVERYONE is going about their business in real time, which is damn sweet.

And why does the story suck? What's cooler than the "Who dunnit" storyline, especially when you get to control someone cool like Ryo and interact the way you do.

If you don't care about "that day" and if you don't like hearing "hey Mr. do you want to play with meeeeee?" then...GET SERIOUS!!!

<hr></blockquote>

What's so great about it? Cause it looks nice and the people speak? It's not like you can actually interact with anyone. Anyone who isn't ppart of the plot just says something random like in any other game. As a game, you say it's not supposed to be action. Well then you're admitting that the action part sucks then, right? Well what you have left is just walking around talking to people. All of the actual action scenes are poorly done and not interesing at all. It's just not revolutionary. It's not like Zelda Majora's Mask where people actually have lives and you have to figure out what each person does at the same time on a given day. The people are just random and have no real purpose other than eye candy.
And yes, the world is very small. Just because you have to run back and forth a million times doesn't mean anything. If I want to watch a good movie for the plot, I can think of a million things I'd rather watch. Shen Mue fails in every way for me. Even if I accepted what you said, to me gameplay comes first in a video game. If I said "yeah the story rules", I would still think it sucked.

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