Apple busts onto the enterprise server scene

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<a href="http://www.apple.com/xserve/raid/" target="_blank">http://www.apple.com/xserve/raid/</a>

Look at the competative stats. Do you all think apple may have found another profitable morket? Or is this a plan doomed for failure?
 
twalden

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I'm not try to bash Apple, but how can they be serious? These storage devices come with ATA 100 IDE raid. For serious data throughput in an enterprise environment you would use SCSI raid with 10k or 15k RPM Ultra 160 drives. Most modern SCSI drives can be hot swapped which means 0 down time to replace a bad drive. A system with IDE drives has to be powered down to replace the drives.
 
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The drives are hot-swappable.

I think Apple has a fantastic looking product in both the Xserve and the Xraid, but they also have some issues with the design:

The drives have a pop out handle that spins the drive down. Nice, unless you happen to bump against it while working near the server.

The Xserve is 29" deep. That's hella big. You need a mack rack for that (teh funnay)

As far as competitive specs, I don't see any. The specs on the page you link to are for Data density and price, not performance.

Please note - I am a big Apple fan. I own 2 iMacs, a G4, an iBook and an iPod, so I'm certainly not Apple bashing.
 
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Also, if they want to get serious about getting into the enterprise server market, they need a better service contract than what is listed on the web site. If your Xserve craps out a 8pm, you will have to wait until the next business day for someone to arrive on site. Not good. IBM, Sun, and others have 24x7 on site support and will have someone on site within 4 hours.
 
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The drives are hot-swappable.
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They are? Sorry about that, I was looking for that info on the web site but found nothing mentioned.
 
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the price is somewhat laughable, but i really dont know average server prices.

either way this wouldnt've happened if it wasnt for the fact that osx is bult on the unix kernel.

why not just build a cheaper one running a real unix os?
 
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Originally posted by sonic1687:
<strong> the price is somewhat laughable, but i really dont know average server prices.
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If you don't know average server prices why would you think it was laughable?

<strong>either way this wouldnt've happened if it wasnt for the fact that osx is bult on the unix kernel.</strong>

What would'nt have happened? Apple would not have made a server? They have had plenty in the past. Or they would have not made an "Enterprise Level" server? WinNT was considered a joke as an enterprise server, and to many it still is.

<strong>why not just build a cheaper one running a real unix os? </strong>

How is this not a real Unix OS? Just because it has a nice interface does not make it non-Unix.

You can absolutely buy a cheaper server, but believe me you can spend a hell of a lot more too.

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true.

and yea i know, windows is a shit os for a server

and i didnt know that apple had past versions of their os for serving

i thought osx wasnt ENTIRELY unix based. or was it, i forget.

either way freeBSD OWNZ J00
 
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sonic1687:
true.

and yea i know, windows is a shit os for a server

and i didnt know that apple had past versions of their os for serving

i thought osx wasnt ENTIRELY unix based. or was it, i forget.

either way freeBSD OWNZ J00
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The kernel is BSD-based. So... blah. :p

Runs really damn well too. And I'm the kind of guy who might have a web browser (downloading shit in the meantime), AIM and Quake III going all at once. Not for the faint of RAM, but it manages to juggle all three nicely.
 
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sonic1687:
the price is somewhat laughable,
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...what the fuck are you talking about...?

Man you dont know shit from apple butter. oh_no

-joseph
 
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