Monty Python on Iraq (Terry Jones' letter to the Editor)

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Terry Jones of Monty Python wrote this letter to the English newspaper "The Observer"

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<a href="http://www.observer.co.uk/comment/story/0,6903,882459,00.html" target="_blank">I'm losing patience with my neighbours, Mr Bush</a>
Terry Jones
Sunday January 26, 2003
The Observer

I'm really excited by George Bush's latest reason for bombing Iraq: he's running out of patience. And so am I!

For some time now I've been really pissed off with Mr Johnson, who lives a couple of doors down the street. Well, him and Mr Patel, who runs the health food shop. They both give me queer looks, and I'm sure Mr Johnson is planning something nasty for me, but so far I haven't been able to discover what. I've been round to his place a few times to see what he's up to, but he's got everything well hidden. That's how devious he is.

As for Mr Patel, don't ask me how I know, I just know - from very good sources - that he is, in reality, a Mass Murderer. I have leafleted the street telling them that if we don't act first, he'll pick us off one by one.

Some of my neighbours say, if I've got proof, why don't I go to the police? But that's simply ridiculous. The police will say that they need evidence of a crime with which to charge my neighbours.

They'll come up with endless red tape and quibbling about the rights and wrongs of a pre-emptive strike and all the while Mr Johnson will be finalising his plans to do terrible things to me, while Mr Patel will be secretly murdering people. Since I'm the only one in the street with a decent range of automatic firearms, I reckon it's up to me to keep the peace. But until recently that's been a little difficult. Now, however, George W. Bush has made it clear that all I need to do is run out of patience, and then I can wade in and do whatever I want!

And let's face it, Mr Bush's carefully thought-out policy towards Iraq is the only way to bring about international peace and security. The one certain way to stop Muslim fundamentalist suicide bombers targeting the US or the UK is to bomb a few Muslim countries that have never threatened us.

That's why I want to blow up Mr Johnson's garage and kill his wife and children. Strike first! That'll teach him a lesson. Then he'll leave us in peace and stop peering at me in that totally unacceptable way.

Mr Bush makes it clear that all he needs to know before bombing Iraq is that Saddam is a really nasty man and that he has weapons of mass destruction - even if no one can find them. I'm certain I've just as much justification for killing Mr Johnson's wife and children as Mr Bush has for bombing Iraq.

Mr Bush's long-term aim is to make the world a safer place by eliminating 'rogue states' and 'terrorism'. It's such a clever long-term aim because how can you ever know when you've achieved it? How will Mr Bush know when he's wiped out all terrorists? When every single terrorist is dead? But then a terrorist is only a terrorist once he's committed an act of terror. What about would-be terrorists? These are the ones you really want to eliminate, since most of the known terrorists, being suicide bombers, have already eliminated themselves.

Perhaps Mr Bush needs to wipe out everyone who could possibly be a future terrorist? Maybe he can't be sure he's achieved his objective until every Muslim fundamentalist is dead? But then some moderate Muslims might convert to fundamentalism. Maybe the only really safe thing to do would be for Mr Bush to eliminate all Muslims?

It's the same in my street. Mr Johnson and Mr Patel are just the tip of the iceberg. There are dozens of other people in the street who I don't like and who - quite frankly - look at me in odd ways. No one will be really safe until I've wiped them all out.

My wife says I might be going too far but I tell her I'm simply using the same logic as the President of the United States. That shuts her up.

Like Mr Bush, I've run out of patience, and if that's a good enough reason for the President, it's good enough for me. I'm going to give the whole street two weeks - no, 10 days - to come out in the open and hand over all aliens and interplanetary hijackers, galactic outlaws and interstellar terrorist masterminds, and if they don't hand them over nicely and say 'Thank you', I'm going to bomb the entire street to kingdom come.

It's just as sane as what George W. Bush is proposing - and, in contrast to what he's intending, my policy will destroy only one street.

<small>[ February 20, 2003, 12:55 PM: Message edited by: Bobak ]</small>
 

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LOL, great stuff, Bobak. Just saved it, Baron von Took's Python bites again!

He's right you know.
 

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Nice and funny over generalization.
We should try and remember that this man has made his life and living as a comedian.
 

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Its funny but its more of a smart ass opinion from an uninformed individual. I mean really you can have all the opinions you want about the situation but in the end thats all you've got is opinions. You'll never have the whole story to determine a correct coarse of action and thats what sucks. Who here thinks he has more info on whats going on than the president or sadam ( not that they know all the facts either)? No one. I guess thats what sucks most about politics and war, your led about blind by a stranger and hope you get to the right place all the while getting directions from other blind people. Sure some folks may have some facts but thats just blurred vision. I just guess im sick of hearing opinions and just want some facts tis all. Sorry to piss on this post and all. No offince to any one. :)
 

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Shred:
Nice and funny over generalization.
We should try and remember that this man has made his life and living as a comedian.
Well, yes :D

I hope everyone realizes that.
 

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Mr. Wizard:
Its funny but its more of a smart ass opinion from an uninformed individual. I mean really you can have all the opinions you want about the situation but in the end thats all you've got is opinions. You'll never have the whole story to determine a correct coarse of action and thats what sucks. Who here thinks he has more info on whats going on than the president or sadam ( not that they know all the facts either)? No one. I guess thats what sucks most about politics and war, your led about blind by a stranger and hope you get to the right place all the while getting directions from other blind people. Sure some folks may have some facts but thats just blurred vision. I just guess im sick of hearing opinions and just want some facts tis all. Sorry to piss on this post and all. No offince to any one. :)
Cheer up man, it's only a bit of satire. A good laugh is what we need in times like this, not a request for "facts" that we will never get.
 

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Still it holds more truth then any of Bush his speeches
 

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Posted by Shred: "This man has made his life as a comedian."

And he also studied politics at Cambridge university, so Id wager he's capable of informed comment on such matters.

I would disagree also with your use of the term "comedian"......having left the Python days behind,Terry Jones has specialised in satire, over the last 20 years.

satire is political comment.Irony......this letter is a fine example.
It can be dismissed as simple humour by the foul and uncouth, but the truly cultured see it as satire.

His letter amply illustrates what a small and pathetic little man Bush is.

<small>[ February 21, 2003, 08:13 AM: Message edited by: rugal2000 ]</small>
 

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Mr. Wizard:
Its funny but its more of a smart ass opinion from an uninformed individual. I mean really you can have all the opinions you want about the situation but in the end thats all you've got is opinions. You'll never have the whole story to determine a correct coarse of action and thats what sucks. Who here thinks he has more info on whats going on than the president or sadam ( not that they know all the facts either)? No one. I guess thats what sucks most about politics and war, your led about blind by a stranger and hope you get to the right place all the while getting directions from other blind people. Sure some folks may have some facts but thats just blurred vision. I just guess im sick of hearing opinions and just want some facts tis all. Sorry to piss on this post and all. No offince to any one. :)
Why aren't there more people like you?

I too am getting tired of the moral polarization of this issue. "Sinners in a Hand of an Angry God" has now become "Decadent Capitalists in the Hands of an Angry Mob." Also, attacks on personal character are, I think, the lowest form of debate, not much better than mudslinging. If you have a problem with a person's decision or course of action, you bring up a legitamite and thoughtful concern, not just call someone a moron. However intelligent Bush is, only sticks and stones will break his bones.
 

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"However intelligent Bush is, only sticks and stones will break his bones. "


No thats not true......in a democracy, the people can make or break presidents.
democracy is derived from the greek "demus cratus"........peoples rule for the people".

If there was enough anti war feeling in the states, that would break Bush. But there simply isnt.He's popular with his electorate.

America will back Bush on a war with Iraq. Post sep 11 thats a fact.
 

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rugal2000:
And he also studied politics at Cambridge university, so Id wager he's capable of informed comment on such matters.
Actually there are very few people who know enough about what all is going on to intelligently comment on it. Every one else only repeats what they think of what littl information we are given.

rugal2000:
I would disagree also with your use of the term "comedian"......having left the Python days behind,Terry Jones has specialised in satire, over the last 20 years.

satire is political comment.Irony......this letter is a fine example.
It can be dismissed as simple humour by the foul and uncouth, but the truly cultured see it as satire.
Satire is but one tool used by comedians to engage their audience. And I find it amusing that when anyone else see it as that they are foul and uncouth yet English people see themselves as cultured because they laugh at men in dresses.

rugal2000:
His letter amply illustrates what a small and pathetic little man Bush is.
Actually it is just another way for Terry Jones to keep his name in the public light. So how pathetic is it to have to depend on others to make a name for yourself?
 

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Takumaji:
Shred:
smokey:
Still it holds more truth then any of Bush his speeches
See above post!
Europeans are so so ..... nothing to say.
Yes, we are cool as ice, aren't we! tickled
Not really more like a confused gathering of countries that lost their way a long time ago. The one really good thing I found in Europe was the German beer purity law. :D buttrock
 

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I don't think that ppl like Terry Jones need to show their asses in public light just to get attention. In case you don't know, Terry Jones is not only a "comedian", he's also a director and script author for countless TV and movie productions. He's active in the biz since the early 60s, btw.

Just because he felt the need to satirically comment on current affairs doesn't mean he'd be an attention whore, I guess his motives are based on the fact that his own Premier Minister seems to live in George Jr.'s rectum. If he'd wanted to aggravate any of your conservatives, he had published that letter in the New York Times, Washington Post or any other US newspaper, not in the Observer.
 

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rugal2000:
"However intelligent Bush is, only sticks and stones will break his bones. "


No thats not true......in a democracy, the people can make or break presidents.
democracy is derived from the greek "demus cratus"........peoples rule for the people".

If there was enough anti war feeling in the states, that would break Bush. But there simply isnt.He's popular with his electorate.

America will back Bush on a war with Iraq. Post sep 11 thats a fact.
I don't know about that. Vietnam. About a decade of war and all the protestors in the U.S. could'nt end it. It ended when the polititions decided it was over. Freedom to choose does have its limits in Democracy. If America doesnt want to go to war then it better speak up before it starts because once we are in it then it may be a bit more diffucult to stop. Did anyone see the latest "Front Line" program on the events leading up to now from the political aspect of the american government on Iraq? Very interesting.
 

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Takumaji:
I don't think that ppl like Terry Jones need to show their asses in public light just to get attention. In case you don't know, Terry Jones is not only a "comedian", he's also a director and script author for countless TV and movie productions. He's active in the biz since the early 60s, btw.

Just because he felt the need to satirically comment on current affairs doesn't mean he'd be an attention whore, I guess his motives are based on the fact that his own Premier Minister seems to live in George Jr.'s rectum. If he'd wanted to aggravate any of your conservatives, he had published that letter in the New York Times, Washington Post or any other US newspaper, not in the Observer.
Anyone who makes a living in entertainment of any kind can be classified as an attention whore. It does little good to write tv shows, movies or anything else if no one is going to pay attention then it is pretty much a waste of time.
 

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Shred:
[...] The one really good thing I found in Europe was the German beer purity law. :D buttrock
Hm, yep, 1516 was a good year.

Btw., are you a native American ("Indian")? If not, your connections to Europe may be deeper than you think... :)
 

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rugal2000:
"However intelligent Bush is, only sticks and stones will break his bones. "


No thats not true......in a democracy, the people can make or break presidents.
democracy is derived from the greek "demus cratus"........peoples rule for the people".

If there was enough anti war feeling in the states, that would break Bush. But there simply isnt.He's popular with his electorate.

America will back Bush on a war with Iraq. Post sep 11 thats a fact.
I agree with you, to a point. You see, any form of centralized power will do anything to control the opinion of the masses. That's how history has been operating for the last couple of millenia. Anyone who has power will always try to preserve their power, sometimes no matter the cost. We are not privy to all of the information given about this war - and there's a reason for this. I don't believe for a second it's about security (it's probably about oil, since all wars are resource wars), but there could be other periphery reasons, complicated ones. I don't support this war, nor do I denounce it. I will not take a moral stance on something that I simply do not know enough about and the information provided is simply to biased (too right or too left).

Technically, the US is more a republic. I'm not really into the romantic notion of a democracy anyway, because not everyone knows enough information to make an informed decision. I'm not exactly for a republic, either. If anything, I prefer anarchy as the ideal, though hell will freeze over before that happens.

About the notion of the people pushing someone out of office; I don't look at it like that anymore, because you see, in politics we are no longer "the people," we are a potential vote. We are the resources of politicians. Take, for example, the Vietnam war. One would like to believe that "the people" ended the war when it was actually Nixon. He was the one who pulled troops out....eventually. That is how he got into office: he knew Johnson was really screwing up with Vietnam and saw it as an opportunity to get elected. I could go on with the sociopolitical aspect, but to sum up, democracy is an illusion of power.

Now I believe the Bush administration is really handling the war effort rather poorly. The whole "Axis of Evil" slogan was a bad move, especially in this post-p.c. era. He's sticking with it because the majority of his constituents are conservative christians, but I think he's putting way too many eggs in that basket if he wants to get re-elected.

BTW -- I am surprised to see such level-headed debaters in this issue. Usually these threads degenerate into "Bush Sucks" or "Let's turn Iraq into a parking lot."

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Remember Shred:

the majority of Americans DID NOT vote for Bush, so don't assume it's the "Europeans" -you'll be missing a lot of dissent here at home.
 

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Shred your right about most entertainers being attention whores.

But Terry Jones isnt that kind of guy, like many British satirists he is also one of the most intelligent men of his generation.Other examples, Peter Cook and Spike Milligan.
 
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