Shienryu released in the US.

Ghost-Dog · Feb 18, 2003

Maybe this thread was done before, I'm not sure. Anyway, I was in Babbage's the other day and while browsing the PSX games I saw a title called "Gekioh Shooting King". It was a value ($9.99) title from Natsume.

It caught my eye because the ships and mech on the cover looked familiar. I used to have Shienryu on the Saturn before stupidly selling it off, and have always regretted getting rid of it. The screens on the back pretty much confirmed it for me, so I bought it.

So it is an actual port of Shineryu with some extra modes thrown in. For $10, you really can't lose getting this game. The Saturn version goes for way more than that if I remember correctly. If you like shooters, go for this one. It looks great on my PSOne LCD screen. buttrock

samuraiX · Feb 18, 2003

I grabbed that one a couple weeks ago. Haven't played it yet. But based on what you say it sounds like fun. I'll have to give it a whirl!

Talen · Feb 18, 2003

Ah, I was wondering why it looked familiar, and if it was any good. If it's sheinryu I'll pick it up tomorrow. I just wish sol divide was easier to find locally. frown

chimpmeister · Feb 18, 2003

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What a shock, I never knew Shienryu was being released by Natsume!! Does it support Tate (arcade) mode? Definitely worth $10 for this game, the Saturn version rocks!

Talen · Feb 18, 2003

I'm pretty sure it mentions 'tate as a feature on the back, it would be pretty silly to not have it, then again it is a $10 psx title. Either way, I'll know tomorrow. :cool:

steveold · Feb 18, 2003

Chimp, you didn't know about this? I posted about PSX Shienryu back on 12/10/02. You must have been away or something.

BTW, I'm getting Saturn Shienryu soon. I'm trading Burning Rangers (US, complete) for it. Is this trade in my favor, or no?

Ghost-Dog · Feb 19, 2003

It depends on how much you like shooters. It's a solid shooter, but I wouldn't put it on the same level as Soukyugurentai or Radiant Silvergun. It's down there with Batsugun I think.

BR is a great game too, and having the English version is definitely a plus. If you're a shmup freak, then I would say you got a decent deal.

Roswell_47 · Feb 19, 2003

I've had the PSX version on jap import for a hwile and its much better than the Saturn one. Try the extra game where you shoot everything and they laugh....freaky as hell tickled

chimpmeister · Feb 19, 2003

Steve:
Chimp, you didn't know about this? I posted about PSX Shienryu back on 12/10/02. You must have been away or something.

BTW, I'm getting Saturn Shienryu soon. I'm trading Burning Rangers (US, complete) for it. Is this trade in my favor, or no?

Either I missed your post or forgot about it!! But thats cool that its being released as a super-budget title for the PSX. I'll definitely pick it up at that price! And as for the trade, you got a GREAT deal by trading Burning Rangers . . . personally I don't care for that game, too horribly pixelly and low-res for a 3D style game. Shienryu is a fantastic shmup, one of my favorites on the Saturn!

I sort of doubt that the PSX version is better than the Saturn one, since we all know the Saturn is the king of 2D shooters and handles them better than the PSX. But for $10 you can't really go wrong . . . and if none of you have tried these types of shooters in Tate mode, you should -- it preserves the exact look and feel of the original arcade game, unlike the "horizontal" mode which usually crops the screen and shrinks the sprites accordingly!!

Liquid Snake · Feb 19, 2003

Ghost-Dog:
I used to have Shienryu on the Saturn before stupidly selling it off, and have always regretted getting rid of it.

I have your copy in hand right now

Shienryu is far the best looking Saturn shooter from Konami.

It's so weird that Natsume releases this title in US instead of Konami USA

Liquid Snake · Feb 19, 2003

chimpmeister:
I sort of doubt that the PSX version is better than the Saturn one, since we all know the Saturn is the king of 2D shooters and handles them better than the PSX.

Saturn version is always better than PSX port. Examples?

Striker 1945 II
Donpachi
Dodonpachi
Metal Slug
Shienryu

and many more...

Only game that PSX version is better than Saturn one is Castlevania: SOTN

Bishamon · Feb 20, 2003

Shienryu rocks!!! Luckily I picked up the Saturn version when it was released in Japan.

steveold · Feb 20, 2003

chimpmeister:

Steve:
Chimp, you didn't know about this? I posted about PSX Shienryu back on 12/10/02. You must have been away or something.

BTW, I'm getting Saturn Shienryu soon. I'm trading Burning Rangers (US, complete) for it. Is this trade in my favor, or no?

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Either I missed your post or forgot about it!! But thats cool that its being released as a super-budget title for the PSX. I'll definitely pick it up at that price! And as for the trade, you got a GREAT deal by trading Burning Rangers . . . personally I don't care for that game, too horribly pixelly and low-res for a 3D style game. Shienryu is a fantastic shmup, one of my favorites on the Saturn!

I like Burning Rangers, although it does have its flaws and limits, I think it was a game too ambitious for the system's own good. But in the end I'm glad it's there as oppose to if it wasn't there.

BTW, did I forget to mention? The trade's for Shienryu AND Megaman X4.

Unfortunately, the trader hasn't got back to me yet, and it seems he doesn't want to do it anymore.

Oh well. I'll gladly hold on BR until the right deal comes along. And I'll still get Shienryu, one way or the other.

Ducky · Feb 20, 2003

Man, that's sweet. I'll pick it up when I get Xenosaga next week.

Long live shmups!

juanjuan · Feb 20, 2003

Liquid Snake:

chimpmeister:
I sort of doubt that the PSX version is better than the Saturn one, since we all know the Saturn is the king of 2D shooters and handles them better than the PSX.

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Saturn version is always better than PSX port. Examples?

Striker 1945 II
Donpachi
Dodonpachi
Metal Slug
Shienryu

and many more...

Only game that PSX version is better than Saturn one is Castlevania: SOTN

I beg to differ...
The PSX version of Strikers 1945 II is MUCH better than the Saturn version, which is plagued with inexplicable slowdown.

Also, according to a lot of the guys from the shmups.com board, the PSX version of DoDonPachi is also much closer to the arcade than the Saturn version. Supposedly all the pixelation that is so prominent in all the big explosions on the Saturn rev are nonexistant in the PSX. I cannot confirm this, since I only have the Saturn version, but I have both for Strikers II and on the PSX it runs much better.

16-bit · Feb 20, 2003

I prefer the PSX for shooters because of the PSONE screen option--it is just too cool to play the games on that system setup.

However, many of the PSX shooters are nearly impossible to find. It is quite easy to find Salamander Deluxe Pack Plus for the Saturn, but the PSX version was quite a struggle. It is also the same case for Dodonpanchi and a number of other shooters released for both the Saturn and PSX.

Perhaps it has already been mentioned, but Sol Divide has also been released for the low price of $10. It is a decent horizontal shooter/action game.

Carlson

Shapermc · Feb 20, 2003

Were any of the Raiden Fighter games released for PSX?

Liquid Snake · Feb 20, 2003

juanjuan:
I beg to differ...
The PSX version of Strikers 1945 II is MUCH better than the Saturn version, which is plagued with inexplicable slowdown.

Also, according to a lot of the guys from the shmups.com board, the PSX version of DoDonPachi is also much closer to the arcade than the Saturn version. Supposedly all the pixelation that is so prominent in all the big explosions on the Saturn rev are nonexistant in the PSX. I cannot confirm this, since I only have the Saturn version, but I have both for Strikers II and on the PSX it runs much better.

PSX version of Striker 1945 II is lacking of:

- CG Intro
- Background is simplified than Saturn one

If you have both versions then you can easily find those two problems.

Unless it is 3D shooter then I will stick with Saturn version.

As regarding to dodonpachi, I have seen re-release (brand new) for $29 last year.

juanjuan · Feb 20, 2003

"- Background is simplified than Saturn one"

Please elaborate.
I have both games and I have not noticed this.

Liquid Snake · Feb 21, 2003

juanjuan:
"- Background is simplified than Saturn one"

Please elaborate.
I have both games and I have not noticed this.

Then I really doubt you have both version.
Or you are just a below-average gamer who don't really pay attention to the details, I'm sorry to say that.

Since PS has less RAM than Saturn, programmers have to sacrifice little things in order to port game to PS platform.

Take Street Fighter Alpha 2, you will see background isn't as rich as Saturn or DC port.
Few frames are missing here and there.

So does Striker 1945 II.

juanjuan · Feb 21, 2003

Liquid Snake:

juanjuan:
"- Background is simplified than Saturn one"

Please elaborate.
I have both games and I have not noticed this.

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Then I really doubt you have both version.
Or you are just a below-average gamer who don't really pay attention to the details, I'm sorry to say that.

Since PS has less RAM than Saturn, programmers have to sacrifice little things in order to port game to PS platform.

Take Street Fighter Alpha 2, you will see background isn't as rich as Saturn or DC port.
Few frames are missing here and there.

So does Striker 1945 II.

Boy, you really insult me with your schoolyard babble...I think Im going to go cry now.

The fact that the PSX has less RAM is not the point here, its which version of Strikers 1945 II is better. You imply that there are animation cuts in some backgrounds, I state that the game runs MUCH smoother on the PSX. Due to my below average status as a gamer, I havent noticed animation cuts on the PSX version, so please enlighten me. Tell me a section in the game I can use for comparisons sake.

If you need a version of each game to do the comparison, send me a PM and I'll happily burn them for you.

Also, if you are talking about SF Alpha/Zero 3 , then yes I agree the Saturn AND DC ports are better. If you are talking about Alpha 2 then I agree that the Saturn version is better.

Liquid Snake · Feb 21, 2003

juanjuan:

Liquid Snake:

juanjuan:
"- Background is simplified than Saturn one"

Please elaborate.
I have both games and I have not noticed this.

Click to expand...

Then I really doubt you have both version.
Or you are just a below-average gamer who don't really pay attention to the details, I'm sorry to say that.

Since PS has less RAM than Saturn, programmers have to sacrifice little things in order to port game to PS platform.

Take Street Fighter Alpha 2, you will see background isn't as rich as Saturn or DC port.
Few frames are missing here and there.

So does Striker 1945 II.

Click to expand...

Boy, you really insult me with your schoolyard babble...I think Im going to go cry now.

The fact that the PSX has less RAM is not the point here, its which version of Strikers 1945 II is better. You imply that there are animation cuts in some backgrounds, I state that the game runs MUCH smoother on the PSX. Due to my below average status as a gamer, I havent noticed animation cuts on the PSX version, so please enlighten me. Tell me a section in the game I can use for comparisons sake.

If you need a version of each game to do the comparison, send me a PM and I'll happily burn them for you.

Also, if you are talking about SF Alpha/Zero 3 , then yes I agree the Saturn AND DC ports are better. If you are talking about Alpha 2 then I agree that the Saturn version is better.

Pal, I have both versions so I don't need your pirate copy. Many thanks

I think you might need to visit eye doc for regular checkup. What on earth makes you think PS Striker 1945 II runs smoother than Saturn one?

Check the background in each level and tell me if they are "same" side-by-side.

It runs smoother........sorry, I don't buy it.

Smart people can see the difference between 2 things. Dumbass can't.

juanjuan · Feb 21, 2003

You still avoid my question to specify an exact location in the game where the backgrounds are different...

I will just say this and lay this to rest.
Play the Graf Zeppelin level(you know, the "ice" level) and notice the slowdown when the screen gets really busy on the Saturn version)especially when the boss crashes through the ice). Do the same on the PSX and youll see its MUCH smoother.
I dont THINK it runs better on the PSX, I KNOW it does.

Now go grab a cookie and lighten up... wink

naitram · Feb 21, 2003

Can anyone comment on how the game in question is? (Shienryu if you've forgot by now.) :rolleyes:

I saw NCS got the Japanese version in this week. Anyone played either, and know of any differences in the Japan and US versions?

juanjuan · Feb 22, 2003

I can only comment on the Saturn version, but it still might help.

I would say its an above average shooter, very Raiden-ish(not Raiden Fighters), but with much better graphics. Its all pretty straight forward, with your normal weapons, power ups , etc. The Saturn version contains the Tate mode(vertical mode), but if I remember correctly, it doesnt allow you to rotate the controller. Again, the graphics are really nice, sorta reminds me of Galactic Attack/Layer Section, with the same clean, nicely animated 2D sprites and busy backgrounds. The music however, is REALLY unispired and one of the reasons it doesnt rank higher in my list. For $9.99 you really dont have much to lose, but I would make sure that it contains the vertical mode, as I know Agetec removed that feature for the US version of Strikers 1945 II.

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