Concept design for Hybrid Palm Pilot and Minidisk player

DIY · Mar 14, 2002

Man, this is what I like to see, This is one sexy little thing ain't it? Now all Sony has to do is make it so doesnt break after 3 weeks.

Blaine · Mar 14, 2002

Do the Palm's play MP3's?

That'd be awesome.

Wolf · Mar 14, 2002

Hahaha, looks like someone's been having fun with photoshop <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" />

DIY · Mar 14, 2002

Originally posted by Wolf:
Hahaha, looks like someone's been having fun with photoshop <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" /> <hr></blockquote>

no, its real, i wish i could photoshop that good.

Blaine · Mar 14, 2002

Honestly it could be real and Photoshoped.

Depending on the display type they could just super-impose an image that looks like the interface over it, just so it'll come through clear.

Also, rather than making a prototype in 2 or 3 or 10 colors, they'll just make it in one and adjust the color in PhotoShop. Same can be said for things like the GBA packaging. I'd bet you dollars to donuts they just adjusted the color to match the unit instead of reshooting the photography.

The one on the right was probably made first, the screen superimposed on top. Then the whole thing was copied, some of the color removed, interface desaturated and resaturated with a green hue so it gets that Gameboy effect.

Either that or they positioned the two in the exact same spot and managed to get the song on the exact same second

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Just because it's Photoshop, doesn't make it fake.

NeoSneth · Mar 14, 2002

minidisk is crap
you have to record at real time on mine.
that means you set it up over nite to record 300 minutes!!!!!!
who wants that....
hell my apple newton from 97 plays mp3's, i'd freaking hope the palm does.

Wolf · Mar 14, 2002

I'm suprised that sony would try and make a minidisk Palm.

Their Palms already take memory sticks.

I just don't think that there's a market for Palms with a minidisk player built-in

DIY · Mar 14, 2002

Originally posted by Wolf:
I'm suprised that sony would try and make a minidisk Palm.

Their Palms already take memory sticks.

I just don't think that there's a market for Palms with a minidisk player built-in<hr></blockquote>

Id buy one, if it was small and had NetMD. NetMD is enough acctually to make me get a new MD player.

Caris Nautilus · Mar 15, 2002

It looks real enough, but Minidisk is all but dead outside Japan, it never caught on in America in the first place. I do like MDs though, but I sold my player a few years back after I got my first CD Burner. I see no reason to get one now, unless you like to do a lot of mic recording with it.

Blaine · Mar 15, 2002

If they used the MD for storage, then that'd be something. How much can you get on a MD? I'm guessing at least 100 MB.

lemonflav · Mar 15, 2002

Minidisk rocks!

I've been using it for about 4 years now, and even though I can burn a cd with all my music, minidisk is so much cooler! Plus with new MDLP technology, I can fit about 5 hours of music on one minidisk. I actually bought a home MDLP recording unit and a portable recorder. Then I found the only MDLP car deck made by Sony and I bought that to, so I'm all for minidisk!

If that Palm/Minidisk thing actually gets produced, I'll get one!
<img src="graemlins/drool2.gif" border="0" alt="[Drool 2]" />

Caris Nautilus · Mar 15, 2002

Originally posted by Blaine:
If they used the MD for storage, then that'd be something. How much can you get on a MD? I'm guessing at least 100 MB.<hr></blockquote>

Mini Disk is the same as a CD, they have 74 and 80 minute discs.

Some players have like 5 hour modes, but it records it in Mono sound and at a lower quality, not much good for music, but ideal for someone using it as a recorder at colledge, for interviews etc.

[ March 15, 2002: Message edited by: Drift King EX ]

Late · Mar 15, 2002

Originally posted by Drift King EX:


Mini Disk is the same as a CD, they have 74 and 80 minute discs.

Some players have like 5 hour modes, but it records it in Mono sound and at a lower quality, not much good for music, but ideal for someone using it as a recorder at colledge, for interviews etc.

[ March 15, 2002: Message edited by: Drift King EX ]<hr></blockquote>

...But as medium for listening music while walking, etc. IMO you can`t beat a MD Walkman
Portable CD players are so bulky

Late · Mar 15, 2002

Originally posted by Blaine:
If they used the MD for storage, then that'd be something. How much can you get on a MD? I'm guessing at least 100 MB.<hr></blockquote>

...Isn`t the music in *.wav files like on a cd???

...How much space does a minute of music take? x 74

Caris Nautilus · Mar 15, 2002

Originally posted by Late:


...Isn`t the music in *.wav files like on a cd???

...How much space does a minute of music take? x 74<hr></blockquote>

Audio is CDA on a CD.

A 74 minute MD would hold 650mbs, an 80 minute would hold 700mbs, that's just simple math.

CD walkmans are not much bigger, unless you still have some 1990 model or something, the first MD model, the Sony MZ1 was like a fucking brick.

New CD walkmans are very slim slimmer than an MD player in most cases, and just as light.

I just couldn't keep my MD player after I got a burner, and not to mention with the awesome MP3 compatible CD walkmans out now, it makes MD's obselete unless again, you need it for recording (which is what it was designed for in the first place, to replace tape recorders, not CD players).

Plus making a mix MD is a lot slower than burning a CD, you have to let each song play in real time (unless your player has higher transfer rate, but it's still slow).

[ March 15, 2002: Message edited by: Drift King EX ]

Late · Mar 15, 2002

Originally posted by Drift King EX:


Audio is CDA on a CD.

A 74 minute MD would hold 650mbs, an 80 minute would hold 700mbs, that's just simple math.

CD walkmans are not much bigger, unless you still have some 1990 model or something, the first MD model, the Sony MZ1 was like a fucking brick.

New CD walkmans are very slim slimmer than an MD player in most cases, and just as light.

I just couldn't keep my MD player after I got a burner, and not to mention with the awesome MP3 compatible CD walkmans out now, it makes MD's obselete unless again, you need it for recording (which is what it was designed for in the first place, to replace tape recorders, not CD players).

Plus making a mix MD is a lot slower than burning a CD, you have to let each song play in real time (unless your player has higher transfer rate, but it's still slow).

[ March 15, 2002: Message edited by: Drift King EX ]<hr></blockquote>

Ok, but there`s still the problem of the CD diameter, by bulkiness i meant that there`s no turnaround for the that. I haven`t found a discman that would fit in my pants pocket

...And it`s true that the 1st gen. md walkmen were
really unwieldly

[ March 15, 2002: Message edited by: Late ]

DIY · Mar 15, 2002

Originally posted by Drift King EX:
Plus making a mix MD is a lot slower than burning a CD, you have to let each song play in real time (unless your player has higher transfer rate, but it's still slow).

<hr></blockquote>

Net MD helps correct this, I think it has burn rate of 32X, very comperable to burning a CD.

What I would like to see is a SMALL mp3/3" cd player.

Caris Nautilus · Mar 15, 2002

Originally posted by DIY:


Net MD helps correct this, I think it has burn rate of 32X, very comperable to burning a CD.

What I would like to see is a SMALL mp3/3" cd player.<hr></blockquote>

They could make a CD player that used small discs, like the Gamecube does.

But I think those are different than CDs, their like a DVD hybrid, so I don't think burners would be able to read them.

They could make a player that only used 3" discs like they use for singles in Japan, but that would limit your time, because they only hold around 27 minutes each.

DIY · Mar 15, 2002

Originally posted by Drift King EX:


They could make a CD player that used small discs, like the Gamecube does.

But I think those are different than CDs, their like a DVD hybrid, so I don't think burners would be able to read them.

They could make a player that only used 3" discs like they use for singles in Japan, but that would limit your time, because they only hold around 27 minutes each.<hr></blockquote>

I see mini cdr's at tower all the time, and minicd mp3 players on ebay too. I just was saying that I would want one thats smaller.

Blaine · Mar 16, 2002

Originally posted by DIY:


I see mini cdr's at tower all the time, and minicd mp3 players on ebay too. I just was saying that I would want one thats smaller.<hr></blockquote>

Yeah, I've been using those for my digital portfolio for about 2 or 3 years now.

They make me feel like Johnny Mnemonic .

The hold about 185MB so they're really good for most data tasks, the 21 minute CD audio time does limit thier uses as audio CD's

But I have one with a copy of PhotoShop and Flash 5 that I always have handy...because you never know .

NeoSneth · Mar 16, 2002

my minidisk is only about a year old and it records at real time...like a tape player. That is great that is fits lots of music, but who wants to set up to have it record for hours?

Have minidisks finally changed?
They use an abscure format, which heard they were changing. Why bother.....RAM and mp3 players are much cheaper.

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