Strike back at MAVAV

Originally posted by MegaDrive 20XX:
<strong>I'm typing up a very concise letter (without profanity or rants) that should be ready in about a day or so. I'd really like to give these ppl a chunk of my mind and be taken seriously, so I'm on the wagon... was planning on emailing this letter to them actually.

[ December 26, 2002: Message edited by: MegaDrive 20XX ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

Gonna do the same later tonight.

Peace

JHendrix

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Originally posted by Buro Destruct:
<strong>I'm glad to see this isn't going to be a massive flame-assault on the MAVAV, you guys are going about it sensibily and in a fashion that may even be understood by the opposition. Good start thus far.</strong><hr></blockquote>

You're right about their letters. However these people (the Bitches Against Videogames aka MAVAV) are really closed minded and stubborn. It takes 2 open minds to understand each other.

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<strong> After reading your content, I now understand my "enemy". My name is Joseph Paine. I am a high school junior. I have a healthy social life. I am a commended national merit scholar. And I actively participate in two varsity sports and AZA, a jewish high school fraternity. Yet somehow, I have escaped your generalizations concerning those who play video games.
On average I play video games at least a couple hours a day during the week, and often more on the weekends. I own Grand Theft Auto 1, 2, 3, and 3:vice city among many other violent games. But before I start, I would honestly like to know where in any GTA game one is encouraged to have sex and/or kill a prostitute. That statement along with many others similar to it (especially in the MMORPG section)have made me doubt the validity of your website. Please do not get me wrong. I am not writing this to bash you or your website. I just feel an obligation, as one of the millions of teenage gamers now affixed with your label, to defend myself and my position.
The conclusion I came to is this: You blaming the video game industry with everything from violence to obesity is not unlike blaming home depot for the world trade center bombings because they sell box cutters. Just because kids today are difficult does not mean you must find a quick fix. Instead I implore you to get to the root of the problem instead of merely attacking a medium through which SOME troubled teens find enjoyment. Mental health, family counseling, anger managment. THESE are what will prevent the youth of our nation from lashing out. Stifling one aspect of their release will only lead to the creation of more outlets, each more radical than the next. Video games are just, to use a coloquialism, "the tip of the iceberg". If you would only look lower you would see that the true answer lies not in music, video games, or televison, but in each individual child himself. I speak out not from anger that my hobby is under attack, but for the patronization of American youth and the tendency of American culture to find an easy resolution as opposed to a valid solution. You and I are out for the same thing. Please try to understand that.

Sincerely,
-joseph paine

p.s. I apologize for the stream of consciousness nature of this email. Its late and Im tired.
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[ December 26, 2002: Message edited by: joseph ]</p>

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Originally posted by joseph:
<strong>I wrote this up last night. Due to the lack of a spellchecker in my web-based email and my all around lazyness, the letter is not particularly stylized and my word usage not particularly great. Despite its shortcomings, I kinda like it. I made my point. Let me know what you think.

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Great letter! Especially from something written late at night...

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Originally posted by Neon_Sonic:
<strong>I started to write them a letter, but I just got bored with it. If someone wants to complete this for me, be my guest.

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Neon, just to point out that you made a big mistake in the last sentence... You said:

"Uh, oh. I think you caught us! Actually, while warez distribution is always an issuee on the internet, buying legitimate games is by no means “ the only method acceptable by the underground.” Where you get these unrealistic ideas is anyone’s guess."

It doesn't make sense since you write that the only acceptable method of the underground is buying games.

Not a flame or anything but I just wanted to help you out with those frustrated moms and leave nothing opened.

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Originally posted by bemanisuperstar:
<strong>I wrote them a letter also. And the fact I'm an Ordained Reverend Might help our cause. They won't listen to the gamers but a Man of the cloth? (which technically I am) they might.

If there are any other Universal Life Church misters here feel free to give them a piece of your mind.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I hate to say it but unless you are Catholic or at least one form of Christian they will probably not care. People like this tend to be closed to anything that doesn't conform to what they think is right.

So it is quite possible that you sending them a letter saying you are an ordained minister of the Universal Life Church will probably get a response like "Huh? Is that a religion?".

I am not knocking your religion (if you are serious about this) as I do not perscribe to any religion myself. Just thought you might want to keep in mind they will probably not see you as a man of the cloth if you do not bow to the same religion they do.

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Originally posted by Shred:
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I hate to say it but unless you are Catholic or at least one form of Christian they will probably not care. People like this tend to be closed to anything that doesn't conform to what they think is right.

So it is quite possible that you sending them a letter saying you are an ordained minister of the Universal Life Church will probably get a response like "Huh? Is that a religion?".

I am not knocking your religion (if you are serious about this) as I do not perscribe to any religion myself. Just thought you might want to keep in mind they will probably not see you as a man of the cloth if you do not bow to the same religion they do.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Oh yea that is very much going in there. I'm a devout Roman Catholic, have been my whole life. My family the same. My mother's been working for my local diocese for years, and I worked in their central office for the better part of a year. I still go to church every sunday and am a respected lector, choirster, and cantor. I also practice what I preach. I give, serve, and worship with my community, and play video games.

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Originally posted by bemanisuperstar:
<strong>I wrote them a letter also. And the fact I'm an Ordained Reverend Might help our cause. They won't listen to the gamers but a Man of the cloth? (which technically I am) they might.

If there are any other Universal Life Church misters here feel free to give them a piece of your mind.</strong><hr></blockquote>

hahahaha. my friend is a minister with them. he did it over the internet just for the hell of it. he got the certificate and everything. he's only 17. aparrently he can perform marriages in nevada.

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Originally posted by theneocheesewedge:
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hahahaha. my friend is a minister with them. he did it over the internet just for the hell of it. he got the certificate and everything. he's only 17. aparrently he can perform marriages in nevada.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I should perform a wedding someday. Probably some ugly couple so I don't get Jelous

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Originally posted by theneocheesewedge:
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hahahaha. my friend is a minister with them. he did it over the internet just for the hell of it. he got the certificate and everything. he's only 17. aparrently he can perform marriages in nevada.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I think be able to perform marriages is a right that everyone in Nevada has. It's like a state law or something I think.

Actually I beleive in most states you don't have to be a minister to be able to marry people. All you need to be is a notary of the public.

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