Cyber Punk....movies, games...etc.

Kid Aphex

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This is a generic term, but I've seen it tossed around three times today. SO below, classify some of your fave Cyberpunk Movies, Games, Literature. Mine are:

snatcher
cmon. one of the best games ever. and it smelled all too much like...

blade runner
what a great movie. great atmosphere, great soundtrack.

akira
the ultimate anime. pretty much everything else stinks. a beautiful picture. awesome animation and a sweet soundtrack. good...no, GREAT, times.
 

Bhm

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Read William Gibson's books. He is the father of cyber-punk and his books KICK ASS.

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Anime that was classed as cyberpunk here were Cyber City OEDO 808 (very very good) Geno Cyber (also Very Good) and AD Police which i have never seen.
 
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As BHM said... William Gibson, bloody invented a lot of what we take for granted now. His first 3 books were the best: Neuromancer, Count Zero, Mona Lisa Overdrive, tacking on his anthology: Burning Chrome also done up as a Chicago Play that I never got to see :(

Other books...

by K.W. Jeter
Blade Runner 2: Edge of Human
Blade Runner 3: Replicant Night
Future Noir

by: Steve Perry
*The Man Who Never Missed*
Matadora
Machiaevlli Interface
The 97th Step
Albino Knife
Black Steel
Brother Death
Omega Cage

and rumored from the author himself in an email to me back in 2001... *The Musashi Flex*

Other good CP books...

Snow Crash
Islands In The Net (Bruce Sterling)

and a book by me Michael Shalako, that's nearly completed and is being viewed by some local publishers... *Dreaming The Reality* (working title)... in a classic mix of Mickey Spillane meets William Gibson with some of my own neurotic nihilisim.


Then there's movies...

Johnny Mnemonic (Gibson)
The Matrix Trilogy
New Rose Hotel (Gibson)
Blade Runner
Nemesis 1-4 (though part 1 with Oliver Grunner is best)
1984 (not for tech but for dystopian/anti-B.B.)
GUN-HED
Brazil
Equilibrim
THX 1138
Mechanical Violator HAKAIDER
Zeiram 1 & 2
Logan's Run

For games....

SNATCHER
Policenaughts
Blade Runner 1 & 2
Kowloon (import PSone)
Fake Down (axed Saturn game, 80% complete)
Fear Effect 1 & 2
Metal Fangs (Mega Drive CP racing game)
Wipe Out XL
Contra Hardcorps
Contra Spirits (both had Cp elements over originals)

Then animes...

Jin-Roh (alternate reality w. CP overtones)
GITS
GITS: Stand Alone Complex
Bubblegum Crisis
Bubblegum Crisis 2040
Appleseed
Black Magic M-66
A.D. Police (original 3-part OAVs)
Dominion Tank Police
Shin Dominion Tank Police
Silent Mobius The Motion Pictures 1 & 2
Silent Mobius: TV-Series
Galaxy Express 999 Series, & 2 Movies

and that's all I can think of for now.
 

dullbuoy

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Does Roujin-Z qualify as CP? it 's about a geriatric old man and his robo-medical bed, and the bed takes on the personality of his dead wife and then goes on a rampage to take the old man to the beach.

Masamune Shirow's Appleseed.
the animes based on his work are usually blah compared to the actual mangas (ghost in the shell). this is my favorite of all his series. lots of politics, babes and mechs, high tech gadgets, cyborgs, ninjas, a.i's etc.

Mamoru Oshii's Avalon.
if you're into his works (slow paced as hell ex. Patlabor, GitS, Jin-Roh). this one drags too. it's something about the future where you make a living playing VR war games. the holy grail being a cyber world where you actually don't fight and live in a normal reality....but it means you'll be stuck in the game and your physical body connected to the server will be in a coma. oh yeah, this is actually a live action movie but looks very much like Oshii's animes (think GitS with real people)
 
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Yeah, actually Roujin Z does fall into the sub sci-fi genre of "Cyberpunk". If I remember correctly from my CP fanboy days (I still enjoy it but ain't running my life by it anymore) the term Cyberpunk was just:

Cyberpunk = Persons or creations that thrive off their elements wherever "tech" or "absolute rule" lords. People who have a voice from the ground up and fight the system with their own methods/creations/ideals. Thus it was just a high tech version of the Punk attitude as heard in music of the 70's through early 80's that inspired Gibson and others to then come up with an alternative "sub genre" that focused on not trusting institutions but accepting individuals... that individuals are the key amongst dystopian back drops. That's me roughly translating the term and how it effectively found it's place in global collective culture, not the actual defininition, and BTW it was some columnist for a newspaper trying to figure out what to classify Gibson's "NEUROMANCER" in 85 that first coined the term... then it birth it's own movement, because at the time BLADE RUNNER came out or when Phillip K. Dick wrote "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" no such term or sub genre existed... it was simply good sci-fi.
 

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Billy Idol has a album that is not that well known called Cyberpunk

just thought I would throw it in .
 

tsukaesugi

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Max Headroom. The TV series. Seriously. Very cool, very cyberpunk.
 

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An awesome Cyber Punk game is Shadowrun for the SNES. Game kicks ass.

No match for SNATCHER though, nothing really is.
 

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Well if you like Cyber Punk games there is a new game coming soon out on the PC. It might also come out on the Xbox made by Phantagram.

It's called Duality. Looks good and from what I have read it sounds sweet! :)

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tsukaesugi

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One

for the PSX. Published by Capcom in Japan, but developed by someone else. Originally a PC game?
 
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JSR and JSRF would be considered C.P. but I don't think anyone bothered to market it that way being that the common mainstreamer thinks simple Punk is Avril Lavigine or PINK... thus understanding a 'Cyberpunk' would be like listening to that horrid Billy Idol album mentioned in here. That album was okay, but he completely turned C.P. into a joke with that CD. He even had a track called "Neuromancer" on it, and it was cool somewhat... but suddenly C.P. was viewed like the movie HACKERS which is a fun ride but not a serious dosage of what C.P. has to offer. It's funny, I haven't defended nor cared about this sub culture in years and here I am remembering a time I wore mirroed shades at night... played the R.Talsorian Cyberpunk 2020 RPG well into the night with friends and just wanted a ONO-SENDAI Cyberspace 7 deck for XMAS even though it didn't exsist.

On the note of C.P. being attitude and ingenuity it could be argued that the creator of NAPSTER and his fight against the mega corporations would rank him as a Cyberpunk, as it dealt with an individual and media turned around and backwashed at the regime. I don't think he wants to be associated with that rank though.
 

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Originally posted by FeelGood:
<strong>An awesome Cyber Punk game is Shadowrun for the SNES. Game kicks ass.

No match for SNATCHER though, nothing really is.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Screw Shadowrun on SNES, the Genesis version was where it was at. By far, one the best RPG's on the system, period. And a kick ass story mixed in with some cool 'hacking' sequences.
 

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Originally posted by MegaDrive 20XX:
<strong>As BHM said... William Gibson, bloody invented a lot of what we take for granted now. His first 3 books were the best: Neuromancer, Count Zero, Mona Lisa Overdrive, tacking on his anthology: Burning Chrome also done up as a Chicago Play that I never got to see :(

Other books...

by K.W. Jeter
Blade Runner 2: Edge of Human
Blade Runner 3: Replicant Night
Future Noir

by: Steve Perry
*The Man Who Never Missed*
Matadora
Machiaevlli Interface
The 97th Step
Albino Knife
Black Steel
Brother Death
Omega Cage

and rumored from the author himself in an email to me back in 2001... *The Musashi Flex*

Other good CP books...

Snow Crash
Islands In The Net (Bruce Sterling)

and a book by me Michael Shalako, that's nearly completed and is being viewed by some local publishers... *Dreaming The Reality* (working title)... in a classic mix of Mickey Spillane meets William Gibson with some of my own neurotic nihilisim.


Then there's movies...

Johnny Mnemonic (Gibson)
The Matrix Trilogy
New Rose Hotel (Gibson)
Blade Runner
Nemesis 1-4 (though part 1 with Oliver Grunner is best)
1984 (not for tech but for dystopian/anti-B.B.)
GUN-HED
Brazil
Equilibrim
THX 1138
Mechanical Violator HAKAIDER
Zeiram 1 & 2
Logan's Run

For games....

SNATCHER
Policenaughts
Blade Runner 1 & 2
Kowloon (import PSone)
Fake Down (axed Saturn game, 80% complete)
Fear Effect 1 & 2
Metal Fangs (Mega Drive CP racing game)
Wipe Out XL
Contra Hardcorps
Contra Spirits (both had Cp elements over originals)

Then animes...

Jin-Roh (alternate reality w. CP overtones)
GITS
GITS: Stand Alone Complex
Bubblegum Crisis
Bubblegum Crisis 2040
Appleseed
Black Magic M-66
A.D. Police (original 3-part OAVs)
Dominion Tank Police
Shin Dominion Tank Police
Silent Mobius The Motion Pictures 1 & 2
Silent Mobius: TV-Series
Galaxy Express 999 Series, & 2 Movies

and that's all I can think of for now.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Impressive and comprehensive
I've been big on this movement, and while I don't associate myself with it as much as I used to, whenever I see something new crop up in terms of movies or whatever, it grabs me.

Just a few things to add:

Book:
Handmaid's Tale by Margret Atwood (CP link w/Dystopia)
Brave New World

Films:
Terminator Trilogy
Brave New World TV Movie w/Leonard Nimoy

Games:
Shadowrun (Genesis and SNES) both good games, with Genesis more immersive and complete - faithfully recapturing FASA's Pen and Paper RPG.

Music:
Prodigy - While they may not represent what CP stands for, their "Punkno" sound is right on.
KMFDM - Right on. Lyrically, and musically, right down to the mechanical beats.
Atari Teenage Riot - Rough around the edges, but on target for CP.

I've always viewed it a movement that regards the push of technology on people as slowly turning us into the playthings we create. Cold, shallow, conforming.. Like lines of code in a C++ program, or like the edged steel of a robot's shoulder blade. Images of Best Buy customers in line buying tech toys with Credit Cards also comes to mind.

This movement is as revevant then as it is now, especially in the current state of our world, with globalization, corporate abuse & corruption (Enron and Arthur Andersen), and our violation of civil rights in the name of anti-terrorism.

Don't get me wrong - there are plenty of guilty people committing terrorists acts in the US and elsewhere who deserve punishment, but I'm willing to bet there are plenty of innocent people of Middle Eastern dissent out there who are being persecuted based on their race. And policy makers are going against the laws of our land and allowing it to happen.

Sorry to get OT, but I had to let it out. Take it as you will.
 
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