ADD does not exist
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Taking Aderol is like drinking 50 cups of coffee, it's fun for the first twelve hours you're awake but near the end your brain feels like it was sat on by Anna Nicole.
TheBigBB
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The problem is that our society cannot accept people to have any other way than to study and be good and work work work til they die. Some people hate school and cannot focus cause it doesn't interest them. Whether or not it is a problem depends on what you're trying to do with the person. If you're trying to force them on this path of schooling then it is a problem. On the one hand, you don't want people to have no education, but then again some people are going to be dumb as apes anyway. That isn't to say that "ADD" kids are dumb....
Well really the way I see it it comes down to the fact that people all ALLL have these bodily influences that pull on us. I have to write an essay for finals right now. I want so bad to not do it. It would feel good to sit back and say I can't do it and I can't focus... But I won't because I try to be a strong person and I need good grades to get the job I want. Think about sexual desires. People have issues controlling themselves sometimes. We all do it. It's not a disorder, it's BEING HUMAN. We give these kids medication and tell them it's not their fault; well that's not right. It would be like telling a child molestor it's not his fault that he has a fetish for kids. If you have bodily influences that make you want to do something "bad", you should learn to control them or live with them... And if you give in to something horrible like murder or rape, then you should be locked up. Not given medication. Fuck this shifting the blame.
Well really the way I see it it comes down to the fact that people all ALLL have these bodily influences that pull on us. I have to write an essay for finals right now. I want so bad to not do it. It would feel good to sit back and say I can't do it and I can't focus... But I won't because I try to be a strong person and I need good grades to get the job I want. Think about sexual desires. People have issues controlling themselves sometimes. We all do it. It's not a disorder, it's BEING HUMAN. We give these kids medication and tell them it's not their fault; well that's not right. It would be like telling a child molestor it's not his fault that he has a fetish for kids. If you have bodily influences that make you want to do something "bad", you should learn to control them or live with them... And if you give in to something horrible like murder or rape, then you should be locked up. Not given medication. Fuck this shifting the blame.
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Parents need to beat there kids more often. Nobody whoops kids anymore. Counting to 3 and calling out their full name ain't gonna help shit. Take the belt out and whoop the fuck out of 'em then they'll act straight and do what they are supposed to do.
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I think ADD is a bullshit excuse 98% of the time. What I can't stand is the multitude of parents that come into my office rambling about how their child needs their ADD medecine right now otherwise they'll be completely unmanagable. Christ people, fucking learn to parent your children at least some of the time.
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Originally posted by k'_127:
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I think you changed a lot since you have changed your avatar
[ December 18, 2002: Message edited by: k'_127 ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
I concur. <img src="graemlins/spock.gif" border="0" alt="[Spock]" /> It seems that we become our online personas to a shocking extent!
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Huh? Sorry, I wasn't listening...
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Sure. Most of the various neuroses and disorders people have are simply products of our modern society.
In the dark ages, people didn't have complexes, compulsions, aversions or ADD; they were too busy trying to grow food and avoid the plague.
'Course they didn't have the Neo Geo either.
In the dark ages, people didn't have complexes, compulsions, aversions or ADD; they were too busy trying to grow food and avoid the plague.
'Course they didn't have the Neo Geo either.
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Well... There are different things happening here.
For one thing, I don't think that prescribing Aderol or other medication is used here for "ADD" affected children. However, yes there are kids that have problems concentrating and are being a pain. There always have been children with problems, but medicating them is the easy way out.
[I have an aversion towards medication like you wouldn't believe... I think I was 18 when I was first able to swallow a pill.
]
Yes, we all have times where our moods, personalities sway past the norm. It's part of being human, of having our bodies react to our changing environement. Pretty soon any behaviour will be linked to some type of hormonal imballance and could be "cured" by a pill. Do you play too many games? Here, take this pill. You should be playing 2.5 hours a week. Eating too much chocolate? Take this pill, you should be consuming an average of 100 calories of chocolate a day. Not buying any clothes from GAP? Tsk tsk... Sorry, you need to take the GAP pill. You should own at least 10 GAP shirts. Wait a minute, you don't wear any blue clothes. Here, take another 4 pills.
Yes, there are people with severe medical conditions that require medication. But we need to draw the line between a condition that can be treated with self-discipline and a full-blown disorder that really cannot be treated without medication, an operation, etc.
Then you've got another problem.
Children have a lot of rights these days, which is great... However, they now have the power to easily abuse those rights. A mother tries to prevent their 14 year old to go out of the house at 3am. The child fights back and the the parent restrains the child by holding them against the wall (not crushing them, coonsidering that the child is actually bigger then the mother.) The next day, children's aid comes knocking on her door.
Children need to realize the consequences of their actions too. Did the kid realize that if children's aid comes in and finds something wrong, that they the kid and her siblings might find themselves seperated? Wow, all because the mother didn't want to let her child out.
Anyway, I can say that I wasn't the best student in the world. Sure I was quiet, but as the teacher was talking my mind would start cranking. I would think of various things, and occasionally actually listen. It's worse today at meetings. One sentence could get me going and I'll be pondering something related to that sentence for a good 15 minutes while missing the rest of the conversation. What saves me is I can pick things up quickly and occasionally "rewind" the last few minutes of the conversation and pick up from where it stopped. Hmm... Think I need medication?
[ December 18, 2002: Message edited by: td741 ]</p>
For one thing, I don't think that prescribing Aderol or other medication is used here for "ADD" affected children. However, yes there are kids that have problems concentrating and are being a pain. There always have been children with problems, but medicating them is the easy way out.
[I have an aversion towards medication like you wouldn't believe... I think I was 18 when I was first able to swallow a pill.
]Yes, we all have times where our moods, personalities sway past the norm. It's part of being human, of having our bodies react to our changing environement. Pretty soon any behaviour will be linked to some type of hormonal imballance and could be "cured" by a pill. Do you play too many games? Here, take this pill. You should be playing 2.5 hours a week. Eating too much chocolate? Take this pill, you should be consuming an average of 100 calories of chocolate a day. Not buying any clothes from GAP? Tsk tsk... Sorry, you need to take the GAP pill. You should own at least 10 GAP shirts. Wait a minute, you don't wear any blue clothes. Here, take another 4 pills.
Yes, there are people with severe medical conditions that require medication. But we need to draw the line between a condition that can be treated with self-discipline and a full-blown disorder that really cannot be treated without medication, an operation, etc.
Then you've got another problem.
Children have a lot of rights these days, which is great... However, they now have the power to easily abuse those rights. A mother tries to prevent their 14 year old to go out of the house at 3am. The child fights back and the the parent restrains the child by holding them against the wall (not crushing them, coonsidering that the child is actually bigger then the mother.) The next day, children's aid comes knocking on her door.
Children need to realize the consequences of their actions too. Did the kid realize that if children's aid comes in and finds something wrong, that they the kid and her siblings might find themselves seperated? Wow, all because the mother didn't want to let her child out.
Anyway, I can say that I wasn't the best student in the world. Sure I was quiet, but as the teacher was talking my mind would start cranking. I would think of various things, and occasionally actually listen. It's worse today at meetings. One sentence could get me going and I'll be pondering something related to that sentence for a good 15 minutes while missing the rest of the conversation. What saves me is I can pick things up quickly and occasionally "rewind" the last few minutes of the conversation and pick up from where it stopped. Hmm... Think I need medication?
[ December 18, 2002: Message edited by: td741 ]</p>
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