I wanna get this game soon, but how much is this steadily going for in the community? If you've bought or sold one I'd like to know, cause I played this game a few min ago on emu and think it kicks ass. I want to own this bitch!
US KOF 2000 - how much?
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The authenticity of the US KOF2K cart has not been determined. It was released exclusively by NGF, and anything that comes directly from them and only them is suspect.
I'd recommend getting the authentic Japanese version for $179 from therage.com. I got mine there.
edit - I forgot that Rade Karuc was selling a mint Japanese copy dirt cheap in the selling forum. Check there to see if he's sold it yet.
[ January 03, 2002: Message edited by: thirdkind ]
I'd recommend getting the authentic Japanese version for $179 from therage.com. I got mine there.
edit - I forgot that Rade Karuc was selling a mint Japanese copy dirt cheap in the selling forum. Check there to see if he's sold it yet.
[ January 03, 2002: Message edited by: thirdkind ]
NGF was the only distributor of the US releases of KOF2K? How can that happen? That's crap! I'd love to own a US KOF2K to keep my collection steady..
Kennyboy - Offer has been noted. Looking to see the price range of offers, and if I must pick up a jap version, then I will..
Kennyboy - Offer has been noted. Looking to see the price range of offers, and if I must pick up a jap version, then I will..
No offense Kenny, but I don't see the point in buying a used copy for $179 plus shipping, when he can get a new copy for $179 plus shipping. Rade had dropped his price to $160 I believe, which is a good deal for a used copy.
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If you ask people that own the cart they will tell you it is real. Only people that dont own the cart have that opinion. Get one and find out for yourself, I'm sure you wont be dissapointed. Nobody has yet.
Thanks,
ChrisR
Thanks,
ChrisR
Only because they don't know any better. There's plenty of fake shit out there that looks totally legit.
Your US KOF2K home cart is the cubic zirconia of Neo merchandise. It may look real, but it's totally worthless. SNK has confirmed it.
Now get out, thief.
[ January 03, 2002: Message edited by: thirdkind ]
Why do these NGF Assholes clogg up our forum,,
Nobody wants your BOotLegged Kof 2000, Their insert have NGF on the spine instead of SNK, hahaha, They think they can replace SNK.
People who owns the US KoF 2000 bought it from You NGF assholes because they dont know any better, The people on this Forum are Wise to your NGF ASSHOLES.
i can't fucking believe what they do...they ruin thousands of carts with their bullshit insert and manual, driving the cost of the real ones up because of the scarcity of them because they are getting ruined by ngf
These cock suckers are a big reason for the rarity of some carts and the high price of aes carts
damnit, this pisses me off! just sell the origional cart asshole! <IMG SRC="smilies/makeface.gif" border="0">
when are you ever gonna learn? <IMG SRC="smilies/tickled.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/tickled.gif" border="0">
[ January 03, 2002: Message edited by: peterr928 ]
These cock suckers are a big reason for the rarity of some carts and the high price of aes carts
damnit, this pisses me off! just sell the origional cart asshole! <IMG SRC="smilies/makeface.gif" border="0">
when are you ever gonna learn? <IMG SRC="smilies/tickled.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/tickled.gif" border="0">
[ January 03, 2002: Message edited by: peterr928 ]
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Don't listen to this bullsh*t, SonGohan. The KOF2K "English" cart was proven to be a fake, first by the excellent analysis of the materials (insert, cart sticker, manual) by Kiselgof, here:
http://members.aol.com/makiselgof/neoindex.html
Click on the "KOF 2000 Report" link, download the MSWord file and read the excellent analysis by Kale (Kiselgof). Also, a supposed "authentic" KOF2K cart was sent to SNK Japan, who confirmed that materials originally included with the cart had been replaced (insert, cart sticker, and manual covers).
NGF was the only company to have "released" this game, and they probably took what were original authentic U.S. carts and freaked them with their fake insert, manual cover (both of which have the www.neogeofreak.com URL stamped in them) and the cart sticker.
Read the report by Kale, you'll see that the discrepancies are much too obvious to be explained . . . despite Chris and Dion's weak attempts to do so. As far as I'm concerned, this cart is totally worthless, or I guess at least worth the equivalent of a bare KOF2K home cart in a snaplock case, which I'd say would be about $75 max.
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Has anyone done the same "report" on MS3 or Sengoku 3? Both are SNK releases, I guess it would be interesting to see how they stack up.
for the record, there has never, NOT A SINGLE shred of evidence has been produced by anyone saying SNK said the game is not 100% real. The facts are it is, and, within the next 30 days we will actually have something delivered with our last buyout of SNK/NGF japan items that will prove even further that SNK themselves printed 100% of the KOF2000 English AES cart, and it is delivered to the customer EXACTLY as recieved from SNK.
Make your mind up for yourself, dont be influenced or intimidated by people you would laugh at in person.
BTW, feel free to buy it on the open market if you can find one...... They seem to be about as common as metal slug 1 English these days.
Thank You,
ChrisR
for the record, there has never, NOT A SINGLE shred of evidence has been produced by anyone saying SNK said the game is not 100% real. The facts are it is, and, within the next 30 days we will actually have something delivered with our last buyout of SNK/NGF japan items that will prove even further that SNK themselves printed 100% of the KOF2000 English AES cart, and it is delivered to the customer EXACTLY as recieved from SNK.
Make your mind up for yourself, dont be influenced or intimidated by people you would laugh at in person.
BTW, feel free to buy it on the open market if you can find one...... They seem to be about as common as metal slug 1 English these days.
Thank You,
ChrisR
Chris you purchased 100 Japanese carts,swapped the inserts,manuals and labels.
Your "shitty" fake ass carts will never be accepted as legit! BTW you still have some left over? You claimed to have SOLD OUT loomg ago! you fuckers are such "pathological liars" what were you going to do accept his money and claim his cart got lost in the mail like you have on numerous occassions!
Give it up! Your fictitious group is starting to crumble so now you're trying to recruit some new suckers...
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[ January 05, 2002: Message edited by: BIG BEAR ]
Comparing your freaked shit to an authentic Slug 1 cart? Idiot.
What proof do we need other than the fact that your URL is plastered all over the artwork? You're trying to tell us that SNK printed them like that? Why didn't they take all the carts they made for Shawn and print neogeo.com all over them?
You're a scumbag, and there's a special circle in hell reserved for people like you. You can shove those freaked POS carts up your ass.
Well, I will put my ass on the line here and say that i own the english KOF 2000 home cart and I really like it. every thing appears to be of SNK quality (though there is one imperfection on the front of the insert).
I called up SNK international department and got confirmation from them that this game was being made IN ENGLISH in A run of 100 copies or less. so bear you are wrong about the jap cart theory.
But,to each his own. I got the english release because I collect english carts.Those who dont want the game, buy the jap version, it looks great as well.
I called up SNK international department and got confirmation from them that this game was being made IN ENGLISH in A run of 100 copies or less. so bear you are wrong about the jap cart theory.
But,to each his own. I got the english release because I collect english carts.Those who dont want the game, buy the jap version, it looks great as well.
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OK, insert, fake, manual cover, fake.
I can't call the sticker. Square corners seems to point to it not being real though...
The manual appear to be real, but the original cover was replaced, seeing as tears were created in the manual when it was sloppily disassembled and reassembled. The staple tearing should not occur, and this was verified from another copy of the game as well.
So, they might have gotten 100 KOFs from SNK (Although I have heard the number 50), but they were tampered with before being sold.
Uhh ORPHEUS I AM NOT WRONG. This is the same practice of the now defunct Neo Geo USA division..only they were too lazy to remove the JAP sticker off the cart..they just slapped the English sticker on top of the JAP one...They did this with games like Samurai Showdown,NAM 75 and a few others...
There's no doubt in my mind NGF has Inserts,labels and manuals remaining to SLAP on jap carts this is why Chris Ray offered to sell! He claimed he SOLD OUT of the KOF2K1 looooooong ago so how is that he has some available all of the sudden?? What did they order another run of 100??
Just read my sig and tell me I am lying?
Before you answer CREDIBILITY is VERY IMPORTANT these days..Chris Ray SOLD his for BIG $ I don't want ytou to give yours away..
and please believe me when I say this..
I am not trying to attack you..you can give your opinion all you like but please don't tell me that I am wrong when I am basing my opinion off of known facts of SNK's practices long ago.
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Its really sad that you would resort to outright lies about "tearing of paper" and replaced manual covers.
The funny thing is that first people said there were errors IN the manual, so it must be fake. Now the new story is the inserts and manual covers are fake. You have sunk to a new low by knowingly lying about this Keith.
To this day not a single person ever to own the KOF2k English version has had one complaint.
The URL is on the packaging because we demanded it, due to the fact we were PAYING for the english translation and printing. The price was so high because we actually paid close to a 5 figure amount for SNK to make the English package version exclusively for us.
This is very different than a mass production where SNK absorbs the translation and printing costs themselves.
All I can say is give me 30 more days, when the last shipment of goods comes in, we will have something that will flat out knock you over relating to the KOF2k.
I dont see how much more proof anyone could need, but this will be the end all.
Thank You,
ChrisR
The funny thing is that first people said there were errors IN the manual, so it must be fake. Now the new story is the inserts and manual covers are fake. You have sunk to a new low by knowingly lying about this Keith.
To this day not a single person ever to own the KOF2k English version has had one complaint.
The URL is on the packaging because we demanded it, due to the fact we were PAYING for the english translation and printing. The price was so high because we actually paid close to a 5 figure amount for SNK to make the English package version exclusively for us.
This is very different than a mass production where SNK absorbs the translation and printing costs themselves.
All I can say is give me 30 more days, when the last shipment of goods comes in, we will have something that will flat out knock you over relating to the KOF2k.
I dont see how much more proof anyone could need, but this will be the end all.
Thank You,
ChrisR
Hey Chris.. Give it the fuck up! You can't get me my man "Harry Hazzard" out two inserts(sheets of paper) you claimed were "out of stock" What it's been like 2 months and still no refund or inserts but you expect people to believe you release an authentic English version of an SNK game??
YOU ARE A LIAR! You and your buddy have been ripping off the community for years! You have no respect for your customers (check the black book)and the only reason you do what you do is out of 100% GREED! You don't give a shit about fans!
Nobody asked you to release the ENGLISH version of KOF2K..you did it because you wanted to! Who gives a shit if you supposedly paid big money for anything..YOU DID IT FOR YOU! Not for us..because NGF ink stamping would'nt be stamped all over inserts and randomly throughout manuals,Nasty lil gooey NGF stickers would'nt be slapped over the cart,inserts and placed randomly throughout the manuals! Inserts would not be Xeroxed,The inners of the carts would not be bootlegged!
Hopefully in 30 more days NGF will be a memory because we don't need NGF and never have!
If you disappeared TODAY not only would things continue but the air around here would clear up!
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[ January 04, 2002: Message edited by: BIG BEAR ]
YOU ARE A LIAR! You and your buddy have been ripping off the community for years! You have no respect for your customers (check the black book)and the only reason you do what you do is out of 100% GREED! You don't give a shit about fans!
Nobody asked you to release the ENGLISH version of KOF2K..you did it because you wanted to! Who gives a shit if you supposedly paid big money for anything..YOU DID IT FOR YOU! Not for us..because NGF ink stamping would'nt be stamped all over inserts and randomly throughout manuals,Nasty lil gooey NGF stickers would'nt be slapped over the cart,inserts and placed randomly throughout the manuals! Inserts would not be Xeroxed,The inners of the carts would not be bootlegged!
Hopefully in 30 more days NGF will be a memory because we don't need NGF and never have!
If you disappeared TODAY not only would things continue but the air around here would clear up!
-BB
[ January 04, 2002: Message edited by: BIG BEAR ]
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Then, please explain why the taers are present throughout the manual around the spine by the staples, EXCEPT for the cover? And, the same is true of another copy.
Crappy assembly is not the answer. The answer is they were taken apart.
Seeing as how Shawn was able to get advance copies of the manuals and inserts for MS3/S3 on CD, it sounds to me as if you all got advance copies as well, and did some quick 'redesign' on the insert and manual cover, and got your local print shop to print them. This would explain the quality difference in the English insert vs the Jap insert. This would explain why it was ready immediatly.
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You have all the answers Keith. Your a really sad individual. Where are all these pics of this supposed tearing? You bought the cart for $600 from NGF. You yourself were 100% happy with it, I'm sure I can post up the email with your 100% satisfaction admitted if you like.
Also, yes, we did get previews of the manual, for our approval, BY FAX. You seem to be an expert on what shawn has and doesnt have, but isnt it funny how nobody ever see's all the things you have time to tell everyone about?
Wasnt your old story that we had the insert drum scanned and then added our logo? Now its we got preview copies and spent yet more money to print it up a second time? Whats your story next week?
Has ANYONE ever mentioned this "mystery" tearing about the manual?
IS IT CONTAINED IN THE DETAIL REPORT BY MIKAIL?
The guy got out his micrometer for gods sake, how could he miss something so obvious as "poorly assembled manuals".
There really isnt anything else to discuss, its 100% real and no matter how many lies you tell it will never change the fact.
In a few weeks when the goods arrive from the SNK/NGF buyout we will have the ULTIMATE proof. But it really isnt neccesary, how much more could anyone need.
ChrisR