Does Windows XP and 2000 suck for gaming?

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Caris Nautilus

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I'm currently using Windows 98 SE, and couldn't be happier with it.

But I was wondering if anyone here has XP or 2000? How are they for gaming? I remember hearing 2000 was horrible, and most games will not even run in it, but how is XP?

I really don't see why ANY games would have trouble running in a newer Windows, I mean Microsoft should make sure that older software will work with ease.

All my Windows 95 games seem to work on 98 fine <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 
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xp is the best os i've ever seen. it's MUCH better than 98se!
i don't use my pc for playing games so i don't really know about that. (i've got no single prob with all the other programs.)
the only problem might be that there is NO dos.

EDIT : you are happy with 98se. <IMG SRC="smilies/tickled.gif" border="0">
that sound's really strange. i had to delete and install it twice a month ... <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">

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XP is very stable and has not crashed since I installed it for a week.

I have not played any games on it yet.
 
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Heh , i love when PC users finally get the stuff i've been using for years.*on the Mac* XP is a pretty system but i would highly recommend staying away from it if you want to play games. its based on 2000 technology anyways. If you want the stability for NT move on up, but for gaming stick with 98SE. Me has a better driver base, but i don't really think microsoft spent anytime fine tuning that setup.
 
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If you play a lot of DOS based games then 2K/XP isn't for you. But if you're interested in playing the new games (they'll run fine under 2k/XP). XP does support more old games than 2k does.

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Originally posted by supergoose79:
<STRONG>xp is the best os i've ever seen. it's MUCH better than 98se!
i don't use my pc for playing games so i don't really know about that. (i've got no single prob with all the other programs.)
the only problem might be that there is NO dos.

EDIT : you are happy with 98se. <IMG SRC="smilies/tickled.gif" border="0">
that sound's really strange. i had to delete and install it twice a month ... <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">

supergoose79

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Twice a month? Come on man, you must have had a messed up CD or something, or you have OCD syndrom.

No games yet?? What else would you use a PC for? <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0">

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you have OCD syndrom.
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- i quess. another problem was the (fucking) via on-board sound that never worked with that version of 98. (the copy that came with my complete pc!)

No games yet?? What else would you use a PC for? <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0">
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- well ... :
- photoshop
- corel draw
- watching divx and sometimes original dvds
- surfing the net
- using it as a "hifi system"
- for burning cds
- for buying stuff on ebay
- there are a lot of things ...

i've got 12 videogame-systems + my mvs 2 slot board. so why shall i use my pc for playing lame games with sucking pads, joysticks or even the keyboard? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 
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Originally posted by supergoose79:
<STRONG> - well ... :
- photoshop
- corel draw
- watching divx and sometimes original dvds
- surfing the net
- using it as a "hifi system"
- for burning cds
- for buying stuff on ebay
- there are a lot of things ...

i've got 12 videogame-systems + my mvs 2 slot board. so why shall i use my pc for playing lame games with sucking pads, joysticks or even the keyboard? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
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Well I have a "hi fi" system and a home dvd player, so I can mark those out, I do use art programs and burn stuff too, but thats like an hour out of the day. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Well I was talking about FPS's only of course, the PC is still the ideal platform for those games, consoles will never beat them, because you have the endless mod/add-on ability in PC games, not to mention online play, perfect mouse keyboard setup.

The Ability to upgrade and upgrade until the game runs perfect, can't do that on consoles, if it has a shitty framerate your stuck with it.

The only non FPS game I have is Oni.

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Ok, I have two PCs, one running 2000 and the other running XP. I've been running XP on that machine for over a month now. Basically, 2000 if great with all current games, provided you get the latest service pack. A lot of dummies don't bother getting the service pack and whine about incompatibilities. GET THE PACK!!! XP is even better than 2000. I never thought I'd say it. It's stable as 2000 and VERY compatible. I haven't tried any Dos games or Windows 3.11 games, but some should work and most games starting with windows 95 should work. By selecting "properties" on the application in question, you can make XP pretend to be another microsoft OS. You can make XP pretend to be 95, 98, NT 4, or 2000. This "pretend mode" doesn't make your computer look like that OS, it just makes the application think it is running on that OS. The only downside to XP is that you've gotta spend a day or two "De-Kiosking" the machine. The default makes my machine look like a fricken kiosk. Just to calm your fears, you can bring back the old start menu and bring back the old windows interface. I say: go with XP. It's great for anything that was written for windows. Seriously though, how many Dos/Win 3.11 games do you play regularly? You could just do a simple dual boot if you really need to play those games. I tried that once and never used it.
 
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Originally posted by Wolf:
<STRONG>Ok, I have two PCs, one running 2000 and the other running XP. I've been running XP on that machine for over a month now. Basically, 2000 if great with all current games, provided you get the latest service pack. A lot of dummies don't bother getting the service pack and whine about incompatibilities. GET THE PACK!!! XP is even better than 2000. I never thought I'd say it. It's stable as 2000 and VERY compatible. I haven't tried any Dos games or Windows 3.11 games, but some should work and most games starting with windows 95 should work. By selecting "properties" on the application in question, you can make XP pretend to be another microsoft OS. You can make XP pretend to be 95, 98, NT 4, or 2000. This "pretend mode" doesn't make your computer look like that OS, it just makes the application think it is running on that OS. The only downside to XP is that you've gotta spend a day or two "De-Kiosking" the machine. The default makes my machine look like a fricken kiosk. Just to calm your fears, you can bring back the old start menu and bring back the old windows interface. I say: go with XP. It's great for anything that was written for windows. Seriously though, how many Dos/Win 3.11 games do you play regularly? You could just do a simple dual boot if you really need to play those games. I tried that once and never used it.</STRONG>
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Looking at all my games, they all are Windows 9x games, to name a few, Shogo, Quake 1-3, UT, Unreal, Tribes 2, Max Payne, would these run good under XP?

I just wanna make sure I'm not gonna have hell playing online games ect. Also do regular programs that are Win 95/98 work?

I've heard no anti virus or Firewall software will work on an XP machine, unless it's made for XP.
 
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Originally posted by Drift King EX:
<STRONG>Looking at all my games, they all are Windows 9x games, to name a few, Shogo, Quake 1-3, UT, Unreal, Tribes 2, Max Payne, would these run good under XP?

I just wanna make sure I'm not gonna have hell playing online games ect. Also do regular programs that are Win 95/98 work?

I've heard no anti virus or Firewall software will work on an XP machine, unless it's made for XP.</STRONG>
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I can tell you that UT, Unreal, Quake 3, and Max Payne will work without a doubt. Return to Castle Wolfenstein works too.

You heard correctly about the anti-virus and firewall stuff. The good news is that XP has a great Firewall built into it that is easy to configure through the network control panel.
 
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I ve XP PRO and no problem. I can even play Quake 1. The os is vey stable and looks very nice. Go for it whithout a doubt. It s the first time that micro$oft made me happy (whith FS2002 also).
 
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Anyone know what anti virus stuff works with XP? this is the only issue holding me back, since I use The Cleaner and Nortan 2001.

P.S. what is the prog you use for dual boot?

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Originally posted by Drift King EX:
<STRONG>Anyone know what anti virus stuff works with XP? this is the only issue holding me back, since I use The Cleaner and Nortan 2001.

P.S. what is the prog you use for dual boot?

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I use Norton Antivirus 2002 with my XP machine. As far as dual booting is concerned, I would use the dual boot that comes with winXP. It's the same one that you can use with win2k. It's made by microsoft and you can set it up when you perform a clean install of XP. I used to have dual boot, but I never used the 9x side. Another way to do it (the way I did when I was screwing with linux/2k/xp at the same time) is to use partition magic (bootmagic). Be aware that you can only use the bootmagic 7.0 that comes with partition magic 7.0 with XP (or so I'm told). I have 7.0 so I can't comment on any other version's compatibility with XP.
 
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no.

i run 2K, i can still run games released for windows made back in 96.
 
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just to point out.. win2k has the very same "compatibility" tab that XP has, where you can set NT or 95 compatibility. also, DOS games will not work any better in XP, since XP, like 2k, doesn't have any real DOS.
 
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we ll soon need to have a dos emulator to run our old game under windows - lol...
 
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Ok, ive done a lot of reading, and I don't wanna get XP, I think it needs time to get broken in, maybe in a year or two.

So who has Windows 2000? Is it good? I've heard its very stable, but wanna make sure it will run my games, all the games I play are 1998 and up made.

Does 2000 whoop 98SE's ass?
 
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I got 2k, and no game that was made for win95 and up has ever failed for me.
 
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I've got windows 2000 and its great for some things...like ive never had it crash(blue screen fo death)... but it is very limited on games...and other applications. It is the most stable OS ive every used...but if you are going to game, i don't recommend it. Think of win 2000 as a better win NT. Get XP for Gaming.
 
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Originally posted by Drift King EX:
<STRONG>Ok, ive done a lot of reading, and I don't wanna get XP, I think it needs time to get broken in, maybe in a year or two.

So who has Windows 2000? Is it good? I've heard its very stable, but wanna make sure it will run my games, all the games I play are 1998 and up made.

Does 2000 whoop 98SE's ass?</STRONG>
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I tried Win2K because my university (Purdue) has an agreement with Microsoft and we can get software (Windows, Office, etc.) for $5 each. I installed it, it was very stable but it didn't support any of my DVD decorders or Quake III. I don't think the service pack was out yet and I didn't know about the "Compatibility" tab, so I may give it another shot.
 
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Originally posted by Drift King EX:
<STRONG>Ok, ive done a lot of reading, and I don't wanna get XP, I think it needs time to get broken in, maybe in a year or two.

So who has Windows 2000? Is it good? I've heard its very stable, but wanna make sure it will run my games, all the games I play are 1998 and up made.

Does 2000 whoop 98SE's ass?</STRONG>
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oh. so XP is great. smooth you say? well, i'll try to get it soon then. but as you pointed out, 98 rocks.
 
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Originally posted by RiotoftheBlood:
<STRONG>I tried Win2K because my university (Purdue) has an agreement with Microsoft and we can get software (Windows, Office, etc.) for $5 each. I installed it, it was very stable but it didn't support any of my DVD decorders or Quake III. I don't think the service pack was out yet and I didn't know about the "Compatibility" tab, so I may give it another shot.</STRONG>
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LOL, I keep hearing conflicting opinions, one says it runs games no prob, another says it wont even run quake 3.

Damn which is it?

I've done a lot of reading, and i KNOW xp is not for me right now, for one none of my anti virus or firewall software will work, and I don't feel like dropping an additional 80 bucks for all new ones.

Also since 2000 has NO dos, how the hell would you configure your motherboard bios, or other apps that sometimes reboted and didn't use windows to configure them?

Isn't the black screen with the cursor when you rebot DOS? How do you configure anything in 2000? I'm confused.

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the bios is the bios, not dos. completely independant. DOS is an operating system just like windows is one.. it has to be loaded.

as for programs that need to be run in pure dos (i.e. bios flashers), a bootfloppy will do for that.

mind you, winXP is the very same in that regard.

and quake 3 works fine. along with ANY win based game I ever tried.

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Wolf

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Yeah, that guy with Quake 3 was probably trying to run the Mac version on win2k. He also said he didn't have the service pack <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> . The bios is OSless. It doesn't need dos. Anything that is a dos based boot utility can be run from a boot disk. Be aware that it may not be able to read an NTFS partition though.
 
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