Scientist prove Time Travel Possible.

Tehcno · Nov 10, 2002

Yes this is true. Unfortunately they have not found out how to travel to the past. But traveling into the future us passable.
Moving at the speed of 1 second per second.
Truly astounding if you ask me.

Daisuke Jigen · Nov 10, 2002

Wow!

That's amazing! <img src="graemlins/eek2.gif" border="0" alt="[Eek 2]" />

Crovax · Nov 10, 2002

Originally posted by Tehcno:
Yes this is true. Unfortunately they have not found out how to travel to the past. But traveling into the future us passable.
Moving at the speed of 1 second per second.
Truly astounding if you ask me.<hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" />

Tarma · Nov 10, 2002

This is old news...

I've got the formula for time travel written in an old physics book from high school somewhere...

You need to break the light barrier at which point everything around you slows right down... when you stop you'll be in the future... although how much into the future is anyone's guess.

Going back is impossible... unfortunatly.

So basically it's all a waste of time. Scientists should concentrate on finding cures for cancer... and finding a brain and personality for xxxtoosmalldickzzzxxx

k'_127 · Nov 10, 2002

" THE FUTURE IS NOW "
I heard about that years ago and it was like what Tarma said .............. but I don't believe that

SuperDuperSpork · Nov 10, 2002

Going to the past may not be possible, but looking into the past isn't. All you need to do is travel how many years back you want to look in light years away from the earth. Then just get a super powerful telescope. It's as simple as that.

I think anything's possible, just not for humans. Our brains just aren't capable to a point. There may be some aliens who brains are to us, like humans to ants. Just because we can't comprehend it, doens't mean it can't happen.

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rugal2000 · Nov 10, 2002

Have any of those so called "scientists" ever heard of the "grandfather paradox"???

Blaine · Nov 10, 2002

Originally posted by rugal2000:
"grandfather paradox"<hr></blockquote>

Most experimental physicists consider the grandfather paradox an issue of free-will not of the fesability of time travel.

That is to say it's not implicitly impossible to travel in time because of the grandfather paradox but rather the grandfather paradox exists as a seperate problem in and of itself.

When you look at the grandfather paradox we're just assuming that time travel is impossible because of it's implications, when it's equally correct to say it's impossible for me to kill my grandfather because "free will" doesn't exist and therefore I cannot impact upon pre-determined events regardless if they've already happened or have yet to happen.

At any rate...

You can also move at a rate of 1 second every 2 seconds and still be traveling in time . They need to check thier numbers again.

Kid Aphex · Nov 10, 2002

Scientists are currently working on a way to reconstruct decaying sound waves [still present from say....65,000 BC] into audible noise.

That's travelling through time

neojedi · Nov 10, 2002

Originally posted by Kid Aphex:
Scientists are currently working on a way to reconstruct decaying sound waves [still present from say....65,000 BC] into audible noise.<hr></blockquote>

Imagine the political implications if they capture a sound byte of Jesus cussing up a storm.

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Kid Aphex · Nov 10, 2002

Originally posted by neojedi:


Imagine the political implications if they capture a sound byte of Jesus cussing up a storm.

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or secret rush albums

Neon_Sonic · Nov 10, 2002

Originally posted by SuperDuperSpork:
Going to the past may not be possible, but looking into the past isn't. All you need to do is travel how many years back you want to look in light years away from the earth. Then just get a super powerful telescope. It's as simple as that.

I think anything's possible, just not for humans. Our brains just aren't capable to a point. There may be some aliens who brains are to us, like humans to ants. Just because we can't comprehend it, doens't mean it can't happen.

[ November 10, 2002: Message edited by: SuperDuperSpork ]<hr></blockquote>

That's actually possible, but highly unlikely, considering you'd have to be traveling at several times the speed of light, which is theorectically impossible for humans to do because Einstein said that nothing can accelerate to the speed of light, because their mass would become infinite (yes, I'm quoting that from K-Pax). The only thing you would be seeing would be repercussions from the past. Your sight would also be limited to the position the Earth is at and well, you can't see through building, so even with an extremely powerful telescope, you wouldn't see much.

Kid Aphex · Nov 10, 2002

Originally posted by Neon_Sonic:


That's actually possible, but highly unlikely, considering you'd have to be traveling at several times the speed of light, which is theorectically impossible for humans to do because Einstein said that nothing can accelerate to the speed of light, because their mass would become infinite (yes, I'm quoting that from K-Pax). The only thing you would be seeing would be repercussions from the past. Your sight would also be limited to the position the Earth is at and well, you can't see through building, so even with an extremely powerful telescope, you wouldn't see much.<hr></blockquote>

Einsteins being proven wrong as we speak...

It's all theory anyways.

gunrock46 · Nov 10, 2002

In the year 2000 ANYTHING is possible.

TheBigBB · Nov 10, 2002

Are you calling time travel just suspending yourself in some state for a period of time and then waking up? Cause that's not time travel as defined by common usage... I don't see how you could properly call it time travel.

aria · Nov 10, 2002

The Grandfather Paradox wouldn't be a problem since, as was mentioned earlier, you can't go back in time -only forward.

I've heard this theory before, and it makes some sense.

It really helps show how time, as we know it, is a human-created phenomenea.

Theoretically, if you were to speed up to light speed, you'd land pretty damn far in the future. Hopefully something/someone will be around to great you when you get back (or wherever you end up)

Rade K · Nov 10, 2002

Didn't Doc Brown do this in '85? I'm pretty sure he did. I beleive after hitting his head on something, he came up with the idea for the flux copasitor. Basically, what that means is that once you place this device into a Delorian and make it reach a speed of 88 MPH, you can travel to any time you wish. You just have to make sure that you don't mess with your parents in the past because your hand might start to dissapear.

Bluevoodu · Nov 10, 2002

if they figure it out... color me surprised.

BTW... who will be the first to test if they can go into the future?

Not a lot of people want to be turned into giblets. They have found out we can do it.. but can the body withstand it?

Can we get their with not implications. They bad thing about that is we can wipe out someone in the future... with no implication to the past. How would we ever discover that we did something in the future? Only the people on that time dimension would know it..... we would never catch up to the fact.

understand?

Its like the argument about the terminator movies. By sending this soldier in the past created a time loop. When did they actually 1st send the troop?

†B†V†

rarehero · Nov 10, 2002

Originally posted by gunrock46:
In the year 2000 ANYTHING is possible.<hr></blockquote>

what!?!?
fuck no.
when i was a kid in the eighties i was like.
fuuuuuuck.
in the year 2000, everyone would be
in flying cars.
but nooooooo.
we gotta be running around stupid
trying to go into the past.
hell.
if scientists were so smart why the hell dont they
do something worth while like cure cancer or
make the drive to my work shorter.
and i honestly believe that going in the future
and the past isnt going to benefit anyone but for
a select few.
for those who believe we can construct a perfect
future by modifying the past.
i say screw you, you socialist utopian bastards.
murpheys law is true. and life is gonna be fucked
anyway you look at it.
so where the fuck is my flying car!?!?!

neojedi · Nov 10, 2002

Originally posted by Kid Aphex:
or secret rush albums <hr></blockquote>

Yeah, science gave me the opportunity to listen to the preachings of Christ firsthand and I went with Geddy Lee instead... wonder how I'd explain that one at the pearly gates?

Great topic... this is reminding me about a quote from Stephen Hawking awhile back, he said something to the effect of something proving that time travel was not impossible. Not sure what it was though.

Search engine time...
1 <a href="http://www.pbs.org/wnet/hawking/mysteries/html/kaku1-1.html" target="_blank">not what I'm looking for but interesting</a>
2 <a href="http://www.hawking.org.uk/lectures/warps.html" target="_blank">this is it</a>

From the lectures, I gather that Hawking thought time travel was impossible because the present hadn't been overrun by tourists from the future! He later changed his mind because advances in physics left room for the possibility. The 1st link is not Hawking, but a nice high-level overview. The 2nd link is a great lecture from Hawking but may give you a headache.

Edit: Hawking quote from the 2nd link:
"The conclusion of this lecture is that rapid space-travel, or travel back in time, can't be ruled out, according to our present understanding."

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Bluevoodu · Nov 10, 2002

Originally posted by rarehero:


what!?!?
fuck no.
when i was a kid in the eighties i was like.
fuuuuuuck.
in the year 2000, everyone would be
in flying cars.
but nooooooo.
we gotta be running around stupid
trying to go into the past.
hell.
if scientists were so smart why the hell dont they
do something worth while like cure cancer or
make the drive to my work shorter.
and i honestly believe that going in the future
and the past isnt going to benefit anyone but for
a select few.
for those who believe we can construct a perfect
future by modifying the past.
i say screw you, you socialist utopian bastards.
murpheys law is true. and life is gonna be fucked
anyway you look at it.
so where the fuck is my flying car!?!?!<hr></blockquote>

You got a point there... but they better NEVER mess with the past. Whatever they mess up would totally.... TOTALLY change the future..... many of us might not be here.... if it wasn't for major events.... or even many minor events that do not come close to playing a roll of any kind in our life. IE.... what woudl happen if they stopped the Kennedy Assassination (as if they don't know who really did it)?

What would happen if they changed the outcome of some small events.. your parents may have never met... etc. The smaller events could have caused them to move somewhere else. We would all be wiped out... and other people would be in our place.

†B†V†

SuperDuperSpork · Nov 10, 2002

Here's a way to go faster than light.(no, i dont smoke pot) I think it works better in my head then in words, but oh well.

First you have a huge trainish track that goes in one big circle. Then you put kinda like a train track with wheels and an engine on top of the base track. Lets say that it can go 200mph. You can keep stacking the train track vehicles on top of each other. Each level will automatically be going 200mph faster than the level under it.
If you build this with 3,348,001 levels, the top level will be going faster than the speed of light.

That doesn't mean that humans could survive riding on this tube thingy..

SuperDuperSpork · Nov 10, 2002

Originally posted by neojedi:


From the lectures, I gather that Hawking thought time travel was impossible because the present hadn't been overrun by tourists from the future!

[ November 10, 2002: Message edited by: neojedi ]<hr></blockquote>

Yup, thats where i got the idea for my time travel topic a few days back.

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neojedi · Nov 10, 2002

Originally posted by SuperDuperSpork:
That doesn't mean that humans could survive riding on this tube thingy..<hr></blockquote>

We'll have Amtrak build it... there's no guarantee that humans can survive riding on their trains anyway.

K_K · Nov 10, 2002

i haven't read any of the posts, but to the doofus who made this topic go watch the show cosmos; narrated by caral sagan. the whole time travel thing was explained, by riding a bicycle faster than the speed of light through a small town in italy over the span of fifty human years. the man on the bicycles biological clock slowed down, and he only aged about fifty minutes where as everyone he knew was either dead or fifty years older. yadda yadda yadda; the same old song, and dance from anyone who has ever taken physics.

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