DEMOCRATS WIN IT ALL!!!*

Originally posted by Mouse_Master:
<strong>Anyone have some electricity for sale???? </strong><hr></blockquote>

Which is exactly why the Republicans took it on the chops in this state. I mean, sure Davis screwed up with the aftermath, but who was more in bed with Enron's price fixing and the idea of deregulating power to begin with (Enron had a big hand in that now-proven-fraudulent-fiasco)?

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Originally posted by John:
<strong>Big deal. (Note: This is all a joke)

We don't need California. For what?

Disney? We have Florida.
Computer industry? Texas.
Movies, music and television? New York.
Seismic disturbances? Did somebody say Hawaii? Nicer landscapes too.

Basically, Californians are so full of themselves. Your state is an albatross around our necks. You've produced some of the largest media circuses (or circi) in history (OJ, Condit), your state is steeped in legal travesties (Rodney King, Reginald Denny, OJ Simpson again) and you will sink into the sea within 50 years. </strong><hr></blockquote>

Of course you're joking, but you know that once you live in California, everywhere else just isn't as cool...

It's so weird when I go to a restaurant and they ask me if I want smoking or non.

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Originally posted by John:
<strong>Big deal. (Note: This is all a joke)

We don't need California. For what?

Disney? We have Florida.
Computer industry? Texas.
Movies, music and television? New York.
Seismic disturbances? Did somebody say Hawaii? Nicer landscapes too.

Basically, Californians are so full of themselves. Your state is an albatross around our necks. You've produced some of the largest media circuses (or circi) in history (OJ, Condit), your state is steeped in legal travesties (Rodney King, Reginald Denny, OJ Simpson again) and you will sink into the sea within 50 years. </strong><hr></blockquote>

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Originally posted by EvilWasabi:
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Of course you're joking, but you know that once you live in California, everywhere else just isn't as cool...

It's so weird when I go to a restaurant and they ask me if I want smoking or non.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Agree completely. Illinois sucks now that I live in California. No ocean or mountains?! Puhleaze!

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Funny how 3/4 of the state voted republican, if it wasn't for North CA and San Fransisco you wouldn't have won. I like the talk I hear about splitting Cali into two different states, that way your 44 Electoral block won't go to the Dems all the time. Course you'll never allow that, I mean who'd want to let the votes count in those "red" counties... <hr></blockquote>

Seeing as how your precious GOP hasn't won the popular vote in the presidential elections since 1988 (and NO presidential elections period since '88 thanks to your illegitimate victory in 2000), you should probably stop carping about what an all-consuming mandate your party has.
While your in the mood for redistricting, let's put all those Castro-hating Cuban right-wingers into one district in Florida too.

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Originally posted by Loopz:
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Seeing as how your precious GOP hasn't won the popular vote in the presidential elections since 1988 (and NO presidential elections period since '88 thanks to your illegitimate victory in 2000.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Ummm, the win in 2000 was not illegitimate. Popular vote does not measure victor. Even with that mess, there still has not been a move to make it so popular vote will determine it. You know why there is no movement for it? Because that will cause way too much controversy.

Besides, its funny that the areas in FL that had the controversey were controlled by the democrats, and had problems once again in the primary this election season.

Anyway, the only race I was really most concerned with was MD Governors Race, and thankfully it went what should be the correct way. But I guess we will see here.

Oh, and Bobak, you can't blame the Republicans for Enron, its both parties, but CA is at fault for the power regulations, and who is in control there? Nothing like paying off ALL of the politicians.

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Originally posted by Mouse_Master:
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Ummm, the win in 2000 was not illegitimate. Popular vote does not measure victor. Even with that mess, there still has not been a move to make it so popular vote will determine it. You know why there is no movement for it? Because that will cause way too much controversy.

Besides, its funny that the areas in FL that had the controversey were controlled by the democrats, and had problems once again in the primary this election season.

Anyway, the only race I was really most concerned with was MD Governors Race, and thankfully it went what should be the correct way. But I guess we will see here.

Oh, and Bobak, you can't blame the Republicans for Enron, its both parties, but CA is at fault for the power regulations, and who is in control there? Nothing like paying off ALL of the politicians.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Just two slightly twisted thoughts on the 2000 incident:

1) If you consider what many Gore supporters said--"A vote for Nader is a vote for Bush"--then using that set of criteria, maybe Bush did get the popular vote. <img src="graemlins/spock.gif" border="0" alt="[Spock]" />

2) Does anybody think it at all possible that the people who "accidentally" voted for Buchanan meant to vote for him, but didn't want to admit it? I remember reading about an exit poll at a primary election that wound up showing David Duke (former KKK Grand Wizard) as getting far fewer votes than he really got, mainly due to the fact that most people wouldn't want to admit that they voted for David Duke.

Personally, even though I didn't vote for Gore, I do agree when people say "Gore should have won." Because he had so much on his side--good economy, a foot in the door due to the fact that he was already VP, and more political experience. He should have won that standing on his head--he didn't even get a whole percentage point more than Bush, for Pete's sake. Even Tom Tomorrow (hardly a right-winger by any stretch of the imagination) said that if Gore lost, he would have nobody to blame but himself. I think he lost for three reasons:

1) He was too bland.
1a) (part of 1) He sometimes tried too hard not to be bland.
2) He was too reluctant to leverage his greatest asset--the one man in the government who outranked him.
3) The man was just too pedantic and condescending. When you respond to an opponent's side of a debate with a sigh, it conveys a message of "This is a waste of my time."

That's pretty much all I have to say on the issue. I'm actually considering voting for Browne in 2004--or there's always Cthulhu.

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Originally posted by Loopz:
<strong>let's put all those Castro-hating Cuban right-wingers into one district in Florida too.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I thought they all live in the wealthy residential areas around Miami anyways.

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Originally posted by John:
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That's pretty much all I have to say on the issue. I'm actually considering voting for Browne in 2004--or there's always Cthulhu. </strong><hr></blockquote>

There's a hidden room walled up next to my old bedroom in my parents house with no windows and no sunlight but just dirt and one odd plant - a weed. The way into the room is to remove a plank of wood from within my closet, behind old text books, and reference books I stole from various libraries. One time I heard a noise from the other side of the wall and it freaked me out. I moved the books off the shelf and removed the plank of wood blocking the room. I crawled in and found that the weed was making the noise, like it was ringing. And I thought that maybe the roots led to hell and this was some direct phoneline to satan, like the batphone.

I put the weed to my ear and said hello, I don't know why, it seemed like the right thing to do. A mans voice said he was Dexter Ward, and he wanted to speak to Charlie...

Cthulu isn't running in 2004. There will be no election.

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Originally posted by EvilWasabi:
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There's a hidden room walled up next to my old bedroom in my parents house with no windows and no sunlight but just dirt and one odd plant - a weed. The way into the room is to remove a plank of wood from within my closet, behind old text books, and reference books I stole from various libraries. One time I heard a noise from the other side of the wall and it freaked me out. I moved the books off the shelf and removed the plank of wood blocking the room. I crawled in and found that the weed was making the noise, like it was ringing. And I thought that maybe the roots led to hell and this was some direct phoneline to satan, like the batphone.

I put the weed to my ear and said hello, I don't know why, it seemed like the right thing to do. A mans voice said he was Dexter Ward, and he wanted to speak to Charlie...

Cthulu isn't running in 2004. There will be no election.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Cthulu doesn't need to run for office, he is already in power Mwa-hahahahahahaha!

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Originally posted by Mouse_Master:
<strong>Anyone have some electricity for sale???? </strong><hr></blockquote>


Dear States,

California ranks 48th in the nation in power consumed per person.

California grows more than half the nation's fruit, nuts and vegetables. We're keeping them. We need something to eat when the power goes out.

We grow 99 percent or more of the nation's almonds, artichokes,dates, figs, kiwifruit, olives, persimmons,pistachios, prunes, raisins and walnuts. Hope you won't miss them.

California is the nation's number one dairy state. We're keeping our dairy products. We'll need plenty of fresh ones since our refrigerators can't be relied upon. Got milk?

We Californians are gonna keep all our high-tech
software in state. Silicon Valley is ours, after all. Without enough electricity, which you're apparently keeping for yourselves, we just plain don't have enough software to spare.

We're keeping all our airplanes. California builds a good percentage of the commercial airliners available to fly you people to where you want to go. When yours wear out, you'd better hope Boeing's Washington plant can keep you supplied. There isn't enough electricity
here to allow us to export any more planes than we need ourselves. And while we're at it, we're keeping all our high-tech aerospace stuff, too, like the sophisticated weapons systems that let you sleep at night, not worried you might wake up under the rule of some foreign kook. Oh, yeah, and if you want to make a long-distance call, remember where the satellite components and tracking systems come from. Maybe you
could get back in the habit of writing letters.

Want to see a blockbuster movie this weekend? Come to California. We make them here. Since we'll now have to make them with our own electricity, we're keeping them. Even if we shot them somewhere else, the labs, printing facilities, editing facilities, and sound facilities are all here.

Want some nice domestic wine? We produce over 17
million gallons per year. We'll need all it to drown our sorrows when we think about the fact that no matter how many California products we export to make the rest of America's lives better, America can't see its way clear to help us out with a little electricity. You can no longer have any of our wine.

You all complain that we don't build enough power
plants. Well, you don't grow enough food, write
enough software, make enough movies, build enough
airplanes and defense systems or make enough wine.

This is your last warning, America. Lighten (us) up before it's too late.

Love,
The Californians

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Originally posted by Voorhees:
<strong>- Notorious Ganges
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What exactly is a "gange"?


Where is Atlanta again?

hmm...

It must be in "flyover country"

j/k

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Originally posted by EvilWasabi:
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Of course you're joking, but you know that once you live in California, everywhere else just isn't as cool...
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Precisely

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Originally posted by John:
<strong>Computer industry? Texas.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Nuthin' but steers n queers...

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