Originally posted by John:
<STRONG>Planet of the Apes (What the bloody fuck were they thinking with that moronic ending?)</STRONG>
POTA's ruled, why is the ending moronoic? Because you can't easily understand or process it? After I saw the ending I was like holy shit that was fucked up! (in a good way), and was a little "That was impossible though! What the fuck?"
Here is a very well written guide to understanding the ending I found on the net, after you read this, and watch the movie AGAIN, you'll probably understand the ending a lot more (like I did, and now I think it's kick ass):
"In short, the POTA is NOT Earth!!! Leo screwed up AGAIN by allowing Thade to live. The general now has access to the Oberion's databanks that gives him great knowledge concerning the humans and earth. He also knows Leo's pod crashed in the swamp and now has a chimp pilot who can either teach him how to fly the pod or he may just have Pericles fly the pod for him back to earth. He arrives before Leo (last in, first out) -- perhaps 100's of years prior -- and leads the earth apes in rebellion (just like Caesar in Conquest of the Planet of the Apes) as well as merging his own enhanced DNA into the simian population. The apes win, just as they did on the POTA, and the Lincoln Memorial is made/altered in honor of the ape's new leader.
Alternately, if you don't buy the idea of Thade repairing Leo's pod, there is another explaination. If you watch the beginning of the movie closely, you will notice there are many pods on the Oberion as evidenced by the many pod bay doors on the ship (two rows of door along the entire inside of the ring); so it is possible that he finds another working pod somewhere on the planet (one of the many pods possibly launched before the Oberion crashed) and flies that pod back to earth.
Personally, I loved the ending... which is the same ending as the original novel and was the ending in the original screenplay of the 1968 version (the POTA didn't become earth until about the 2nd revision and the Lady Liberty element wasn't added until about the 4th revision of the script). Back in 1977, I made a Planet of the Apes movie on Super8 film with a bunch of high school friends that followed the book more closely (except we kept the movie's costumes and makeup) that ended like the book ...and very similar to the Burton ending."
Adding to this, Thade was a decendant of CMOS, the ape that rised up against the humans on the POTAs and won the FIRST time, so it's in his blood.
That's the best ending they could have picked IMO, to use the exact same ending as the first POTAs movie would have been a huge waste, whats the fun in knowing how somethings gonna end? Or they could have ended it as soon as his pod went back into the space storm, letting you decide what could have happened, but that would have pissed me off a lot, cause it's kinda a cop-out (it also would have made them look like they didn't have a "real" ending).
BTW Spy Kids was a cool movie, it was just a kid movie, if you don't like kid movies, of course your going to think it sucks. If they made an "As the world turns" movie, to me it'd be the worst movie of all time.
BTW movie reviews are as pointless as music reviews, because everyone has different tastes, and last time I checked you don't have to go to colledge to do either professions.
Most professional music and movie reviewers are people who couldn't break into the actual movie/music industry, so their disgruntled and most of the time tear down the people who actually were good enough to make it. Kind of like authors who can't get published taking jobs at Universitys teaching english.
If you actually buy movies or music based on just reviews, you'll have a very boring collection.
This is not directed at anyone in this thread, I just really hate all music/movie reviews in magazines and on TV. Fan reviews (like these) are fine, because fans ushually have nothing to gain by praising or trashing a movie, so they would actually be better to listen to than the "real" reviewers.
3000 Miles to Graceland - how can you mess up a movie with Elvis, Ice-T, and Howie Long that badly? It should have at least been goofy fun.
I liked this movie, it wasnt the greatest though, because it dragged on a bit to much, and the storyline kinda got lost in some parts. The joke about "Whats the best thing about dating a homeless girl" was funny though. And the "You want a peanut butter and jelly sandwich?" "hell yea".
[ January 10, 2002: Message edited by: Drift King EX ]
