I just did an uber geek thing!

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At work today they were demoing the Segway Transporter... I got to ride one. Very sweet. Pricey, the one I rode was $5,300... but man is it ever cool. Basicly you just lean slightly (natural movement, like walking) and it goes in the direction forward or back, and to the extent that you lean... they move up to 12.5 MPH.... Off road was smooth as glass... I was on grass going up hills, I could stop mid way, go up, around.... etc. Very cool stuff. Hehe, I won't be buying one anytime soon, but if you guys get the opportunity, go try it out, it is a lot of fun,

-Nick
 

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I could try one but I don't want to.

So there.
 
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That's a bloody amazing invention. Once the production costs come down I'll be damned if I don't get one. :)

How heavy is the unit?
From your judgement, is the torque generated by the motor strong?
Does it move forward quickly if you tilt it forward without standing on it?
If so, does it require more force per weight to move as compared to standing on it? (as would an inverted pendulum) Or is the tilting just a trigger like a joystick-controlled wheelchair?

The makers should release it early to private consumers, they are more open to fresh ideas/contraptions than institutions. Plus they don't need a fekking committee to agree spending corporate money on it without a binder full of justifications and projected returns in productivity. I would buy it just for the fun factor. Hasn't that been the real appeal to it when you attended the demo? Rather than considering how much time/energy you could save and allocate to other important tasks? Entertainment is the big bucks, man.
 
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$5300 doesn't seem so expensive when you consider the cost of a home entertainment system but does when you compare it with a motorcycle, or car for that matter.

"Hey sugar, how would you like a ride on my Segway?" admittedly wouldn't pull as well.

How many of us would spend $325 on a Neo Geo home cart than use it to attend a productivity-enhancing night-class? ;)
 

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Originally posted by Clear Paper:
<strong>That's a bloody amazing invention. Once the production costs come down I'll be damned if I don't get one. :)

How heavy is the unit?
From your judgement, is the torque generated by the motor strong?
Does it move forward quickly if you tilt it forward without standing on it?
If so, does it require more force per weight to move as compared to standing on it? (as would an inverted pendulum) Or is the tilting just a trigger like a joystick-controlled wheelchair?

The makers should release it early to private consumers, they are more open to fresh ideas/contraptions than institutions. Plus they don't need a fekking committee to agree spending corporate money on it without a binder full of justifications and projected returns in productivity. I would buy it just for the fun factor. Hasn't that been the real appeal to it when you attended the demo? Rather than considering how much time/energy you could save and allocate to other important tasks? Entertainment is the big bucks, man.</strong><hr></blockquote>

It weighs in at about 85lbs. It has a lot of torque, you can move as quick as you want and you are up to max speed almost immediatley if wanted (it all depends on how much you lean into it.) We were only allowed on the 6mph key. There are three different keys, one is maxed at 6MPH, another at 9 and the last at 12.5. The guy demoing the scooter used the 12.5 mph key, the thing was moving fast.... and was up to speed right off the line.

Turning is handled via a grip like a motorcycle accelerator. Left turns you left, right... etc... It is very intuitive and feels very natural once you are on it. A slight shift in weight forward and you move off slowly, turn the grip and you move to the left with the machines zero turn radius, it is kind of exciting to zag on it, it really is so smooth.

It will not move forward until the unit s balanced. If you lean on it it will not move unless you turn the Balance off. For moving it up stairs or whatever, you can turn off the Balance and it will assist you by slowly following behind you as you pull it up the stairs.

Likewise, if you hit something with it, or run into a person, as long as the unit is balanced it will roll with the person putting force on it. You won't be running anyone down on one of these.

The Balance is controlled by 5 CPUs and many giroscopes. There is an LCD panel with a Mac like face on it. When it is smiling you are balanced, frowning un balanced. There are a few other read outs, but I didn't get to see them all very closely.

The unit will drive for about 20 miles on one charge, he demoed it all after noon start and stop and it was still fully charged. It plugs into a regular outlet and charges its NiMH batteries in about 5 hours. In about a year they are planning to have a battery upgrade for double the distance (about 40 miles on one charge, not bad).

Right now they have sold nearly a 1000 units to companies like Disney, Paramount, The US Post Office, etc... They will begin testing in the private sector over the next few months... Unfortunetly not in LA, since they will not be legal on the sidewalks here until March 2003. However, they are planning to sell these to consumers by May of next year, and less then the corporate models out now (I still see them around $3000).

It is deffinetly a toy, a great fun device to ride around on. Most everyone would agree with you that saw it today. I hope they can get the price down, it would make a great summer ATV. Just that you could go up hills, stop midway, look around, then continue up impressed me, it is really like an extension of the rider.

No wonder they said the Army has bought quite a few and are doing mission based training with them. They are very quiet and really fast....

-Nick
 

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Originally posted by Spike Spiegel:
<strong>Segway Transporter! Helping America get fatter!

Spike</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well, I hardly seeing it being the cause of obesity in America. Active people will use it to get to and do active things. Lazy people will do lazy things with it. At the end of the day it is merly a device, it is the rider who decides what to do with it. I mean, how is it really different then a car. Sure you can bring it in the mall or something, but I bet they aren't allowed after a while... hehe, who knows. All and all, I think they could be great fun and a good way to get outdoors and have some fun riding. Will I buy one, haha, maybe if the price hits like $800 or something, but not for the asking price now. It is a toy, but it can be a lot of fun.

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Originally posted by Clear Paper:
<strong>$5300 doesn't seem so expensive when you consider the cost of a home entertainment system but does when you compare it with a motorcycle, or car for that matter.

"Hey sugar, how would you like a ride on my Segway?" admittedly wouldn't pull as well.

How many of us would spend $325 on a Neo Geo home cart than use it to attend a productivity-enhancing night-class? ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Here in lies the problem, I can buy a lot of stuff for $5300. I just bought a Dodge RAM Van 250 for my band for $5400 in very good shape. That is a hell of a lot more vehicle for $100 more :) Even a nice bike can be gotten for around $5K-6K....

-Nick
 

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That's awesome!

When the price starts to come down, I wonder if you'll get crazier kids/adults who'll start modifying them for more speed and power?

Segway Drag-Racing anyone? Maybe people will start taking them to skate parks :p
 

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Originally posted by Fredscape:
<strong>any pics available? cause I`m curious now</strong><hr></blockquote>

Not of the demo, it was so spur of the moment. I was sitting at my desk when someone said to me... "go outside, they have one of those Segway things on the basketball court and they are letting people ride it!" We went out and watched and played with the thing for about an hour, as we were leaving we were saying to bad we don't have a camera. I work inside MGM, but for another company, MGM was demoing it and we kind of sneaked in, but the guy was very nice and went over everything for the 20+ people who came out... probably a bunch more before and after me to.

-Nick

[ November 06, 2002: Message edited by: nruva ]</p>
 

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It would make more sense if the max speed was around 30MPH.

The way they are now, you could get to work faster (and healthier) riding a bike.
 
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I was just thinking, what with the last few posts (no disrespect), the probable reason why they don't want to release to the public just yet is because of the litigation possibilities.

"The thing wouldn't stop and I rolled into a pothole so now I'm going to sue you for causing undue trauma and injury to a tune of 5 million dollars."

No doubt sales to the institutions had many clauses.

Regardless of how much technology and troubleshooting went into making the Segway foolproof, there's bound to be one fool and one court willing to award a company-breaking 'compensation'.
 
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Almost forgot, thanks for the clarification, Nick. 12.5mph is really quite fast. Would be cool if they came out with a stair-climbing snap-on module.

And another thought hit me, if released to the public, the Japanese might get their hands on it and make it smaller. ;) Or the Taiwanese make copies (they seem like an industrious, albeit ethicless lot)
 

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Originally posted by Bobak:
<strong>Maybe people will start taking them to skate parks :p </strong><hr></blockquote>

Coming soon to a Playstation 7 near you: Tony Hawk Junior's Pro Segway XXX 4. All the extreme Segwaying you crave in the comfort of your own home.
 

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I love how old people are complaining that they are all going to die because of the Segway. People will bitch about anything... <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" />

Peace

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Originally posted by JHendrix:
<strong>I love how old people are complaining that they are all going to die because of the Segway. People will bitch about anything... <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" />

Peace

JHendrix</strong><hr></blockquote>

Segway is the devil!!
 
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Originally posted by Bobak:
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Segway Drag-Racing anyone? Maybe people will start taking them to skate parks :p </strong><hr></blockquote>

Those are the same people who took razor scooters to skateparks.
-joseph
 
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Originally posted by chainsawyak:
<strong>

Coming soon to a Playstation 7 near you: Tony Hawk Junior's Pro Segway XXX 4. All the extreme Segwaying you crave in the comfort of your own home.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Ahem. That would be Riley Hawks Pro Segway XXX 4. DUH!!!!!!!

-joseph
 

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Originally posted by EVIL NICK:
<strong>What IS a Segway?</strong><hr></blockquote>

actually...that is why I requested a pic. I have no clue as to whatsoever this thing is. It sounds cool and it could as well be a myth but I guess it`s real, you can ride it and it is not fast.
That`s what my conclusion is so far.

Actually I guess I will be rather disappointed when I know what it really is. Maybe it would be better if it stays a myth :)

Nevermind! I found it!!!


segway-r.jpe


COOOOOOOOLLLL!!1

[ November 06, 2002: Message edited by: Fredscape ]</p>
 

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Originally posted by Fredscape:
<strong>

actually...that is why I requested a pic. I have no clue as to whatsoever this thing is. It sounds cool and it could as well be a myth but I guess it`s real, you can ride it and it is not fast.
That`s what my conclusion is so far.

Actually I guess I will be rather disappointed when I know what it really is. Maybe it would be better if it stays a myth :)

Nevermind! I found it!!!


segway-r.jpe


COOOOOOOOLLLL!!1

[ November 06, 2002: Message edited by: Fredscape ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

OK that thing is not a Segway, but it is kind of funny all the same :)

For the real device go to:

<a href="http://www.segway.com" target="_blank">http://www.segway.com</a>

-Nick
 
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