Originally posted by FeelGood:
<strong>Dude, I'm hardcore into WCIII. I won't flame you Shawn but NE r gay MAJOR TIME!
lol
Seriously, they were barely touched this last patch. Hunts are super gay and it boggles my mind trying to understand Blizzard's decision not to nerf the shit out of em. I mean a direct nerf, not the inderect "nerf" they recieved.
I play Orc and they were raped bigtime in 103. I know Shamans were badass but DAMN! Towers are so weak they are almost worthless in groups less than 5 or 6 and we we're left with literally ZERO anti-air. A quick tip: play against Orcs and mass air =
GAME OVER. Yes, it's that bad. Grunts are nothing but a money sink and I don't care what anyone says, they can't compete in the late game. The whole design of the Orcs is flawed. We are perhaps the most expensive race to build/maintain and most of our units are supposed to be strong on their own...I think. What we are left with is the
NEED to build damn near every structure available to us and mix damn near every unit available to us then micro them reasonably well.
No way, too much fucking time, gold and effort to play them right now. Don't even get me started on our 5HP HW and our worthless HH. I'll just say that HW can only be used outside of battle and the HH needed to be BOOSTED not NERFED in 103. The only fixes I think Orc needed was a 50% decrease in Shaman range and to tie Tower damage to the HH/Wyvern/Raider damage upgrade line. That way towers would start out weak but at least you would have the option of upgrading them.
Bah, anyway Craft 3 ownZ almost everyone's ass.
[ October 12, 2002: Message edited by: FeelGood ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
I know it's sad what they did to my Orcs. HH's are actually pretty good and you should use them as the basic units instead of the grunts in early game, they cost way less gold, small wood, and only 2 food not 3. I'm trying to adapt with the orcs but it is really hard. I've gotten to late game and have had gold mines collapse on two expansions cause I've had to spend so much gold to get my shit up to par.
Tauren's are nice but you can really only afford a few of them cause they're 5 food each. And if you try to mass them then the NE will especially rape you with those archers. Remember piercing does 150% damage to Large armored creatures, even with 1300HP Tauren will go down pretty fast. Plus NE get the Dryads which is the most effective counter to Bloodlust, so getting lots of Shammans in a 1v1 with Orcs vs. NE is pretty useless cause you know they'll bust out a few dryads and BL is gone.
I'm still pretty sad bout the patch, the undead got beefed majorly and I'm seriously thinking of giving them a good run. I mean with a DL and DK you get two of the nastiest aura's in the game, still it'd be fun to see what we can pull off. Give me some time Shawn when I can get fast enough to compete with...Level 16, fuck dude that's high..
Peace
JHendrix
