Again (and again): Ikaruga

Takumaji

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Yeah I know, I'm late again.

Funny eh, all the euphoric Ikaruga posts are gone. Seems that some ppl would be a lil' dissapointed about the game?!

Well, not me.

I think the game concept with the black and white shots works very well. Bullets are your friends if you choose your color wisely, and navigating through huge flocks of projectiles is big fun, as is switching between black and white quickly to get maximum impact (enemies are more vulnerable to attacks with the opposite color).

Graphics are awesome. Explosions cause slowdowns (at least the boss explosions), but other than that, the game is pure digital silk. And the music fits the game very very nicely, epic tracks and cool sound f/x, what more could you want.

Difficulty is okay, learning curve is not bad. I was able to clear the first two levels without dying after two hours on normal, except for the boss in lvl2, where I start loosing lifes.

There are some extras in it as well, like some hidden features (I won't spoil it for you, send a PM if you want to know more). It either depends on completing levels or on play time (which is displayed in the backup menu). Kinda like KoF99 DC, 'nuff said.

On the GD ROM there are a couple of Ikaruga wallpapers in BMP format, which is also a nice idea. Two of them have been put on Treasure's web site, the others are new (at least to me).

My buddies who played Ikaruga with me say that they'd miss power-ups; the homing laser isn't enough for them, and I can relate to that in some way. The laser doesn't exactly look powerful, tho it's useful to attack enemies behind your back.

Overall, I'd say that Ikaruga is an innovative, great playing and looking Treasure gem.

What do you think?
 

Nesagwa

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As for Shooters, its the hardest game I have ever played.
 

Kidnemo

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Originally posted by Takumaji:
Explosions cause slowdowns (at least the boss explosions), but other than that, the game is pure digital silk. [/QB]<hr></blockquote>

I'm pretty sure the slowdown on the boss explosions is intentional.

It's always for the same amount of time, and always on bosses.

My guess if for a more dramatic effect.
 

Liquid Snake

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No doubt that the graphic is really amazing but gameplay is not what I expect.....

I only play it 5 times since I got my copy in September....

* the hardest shooter is not Ikaruga, it's PCEngine Rayxanber II.

I know someone in Japan beat that game .....
 

Takumaji

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Originally posted by Kidnemo:
<strong>

I'm pretty sure the slowdown on the boss explosions is intentional.

It's always for the same amount of time, and always on bosses.

My guess if for a more dramatic effect.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Perhaps it's just me, but I noticed some slows in 2P also while fighting against bigger enemies and hitting them with homing lasers simultaneously.

The boss explosion sure has some artificial slowdown, kinda like the fall-downs in fighters.
 

Kid Aphex

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Originally posted by Liquid Snake:
<strong>No doubt that the graphic is really amazing but gameplay is not what I expect.....

I only play it 5 times since I got my copy in September....

* the hardest shooter is not Ikaruga, it's PCEngine Rayxanber II.

I know someone in Japan beat that game .....</strong><hr></blockquote>

I disagree snake! Ikaruga on hard even tops Rayxanber 2; in my opinion.
 

Blaine

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Originally posted by Liquid Snake:
<strong>* the hardest shooter is not Ikaruga, it's PCEngine Rayxanber II.</strong>
<hr></blockquote>

What about Undeadline? I've never had a chance to play it but from what I understand it's about as hard as shooter, or game, has ever been.
 

neobuyer

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I'm not disappointed with Ikaruga at all, although I must admit it's difficulty surprised me a bit. If I could have my way it would be a little more traditional (with less 'puzzle' like elements) but I still really like it anyway.

It's also very significant to me because it is IMO the ONLY "A" shooter on the DC. Everything else on the DC (yes, Mars Matrix included) is more of a mediocre "B" shooter. Until Ikaruga, there wasn't a DC shooter that was up there with the best of the massive (and unrivaled) library of Saturn shooters.

Still, the DC is right pathetic in the shooter category. The best IMO being- 3rd: Zero Gunner 2, 2nd: Mars Matrix, and Ikaruga reigning supreme. Still beating ZG2 and MM isn't exactly the hardest thing in the world...

The real problem is that people simply do not like 2D shooters anymore. If they did, we might actually have more than the pathetic handful of shooters that now exist on today's next-gen systems.

How is it that the Saturn, a years-dead system has the best shooter library of all time? Because there was actually a time in the not so distant past when the Japanese public actually had a craving for great arcade title shooters.

So even in it's somewhat 'less than traditional' form, I'll take Ikaruga and games like it with gleefully open arms.
 

Rade K

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Well, it'a a better game than Radiant Silvergun, I'll tell you all that much. It's more focused, which is really important in a shooter. It may not be the longest game ever, but it's quality all the way. Nothing ever gets boring. This game is pure!!!

BTW, there are some REALLY nice wallpapers on that GD rom. Check it out like Takumaji told you to!!
 

Liquid Snake

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Originally posted by Kid Aphex:
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I disagree snake! Ikaruga on hard even tops Rayxanber 2; in my opinion.</strong><hr></blockquote>

No way........
You will be surprise how hard Rayxanber 2 is......

I do believe that Pulstar, Last Resort, Ikaruga (maybe), and other shooters are quite hard to master.

But..but, let me tell you...you haven't seen the real thing yet........

Rayxanber II is the hardest shooter I've ever played.
 

Kid Aphex

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I actually played it and i know how difficult it is; but I still consider Ikaruga on hard more difficult! :) Especially level 4....dear god.
 

garou_d

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can beat stage 3 :(

the hardest for sure, but much easier to play with my DC arcade stick...
 

Rade K

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I can get through the first three stages w/o dying once, but level 4 gets me. I've almost managed to get the grove of things. The level 4 boss is so sweet though!

I am level five's bitch.
 

SNK4EVER

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Has anyone been able to beat the game without using a continue yet? I can get all the way to the 5th stage on easy without a continue, but it sure as hell is a challenge...
 

djbomberman

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Can someone explain the chain combo system? I thought I got it but I didn't.....what is the trick? Which ship do you like better? The 1st player or the 2nd? I like the 2nd one better....I always play from the right side.....that ship kinda looks like an angel......then a devil....hehe........whatever....just an observation......
 

Nesagwa

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WOOO!!

I made it to chapter 3 on easy and failed horribly at the boss. Practice, practice.
 

dullbuoy

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i'm not a big fan of shooters and ikaruga happens to be the only one i have. definite keeper.


i only play it sparingly since i got it (only logged in 6 hours on it) and have gotten to the 4th boss once so far on easy mode.
 

mog

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I still love it. I finally got my real copy too!

The only thing that I'm disappointed about is that I still suck after 10 freaking hours!
 

Amano Jacu

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Originally posted by djbomberman:
<strong>Can someone explain the chain combo system? I thought I got it but I didn't.....what is the trick? </strong><hr></blockquote>

You have to kill enemies of the same color in groups of 3. For exemple this would be a chain:

BBB WWW BBB BBB WWW WWW BBB BBB BBB

And you get more points. Check a FAQ in gamefaq for more expanations.

Well, I managed to beat the game in normal with 7 continues. Level 4 is insane.
 
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