About 1/2 of Americans see Saddam-9/11 Link. Where are you?

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A poll by the U. of Maryland seems to find that 1/2 of Americans still see Saddam as a contributor to 9/11. Thought it would be interesting to see what people say here.

The article below says "most" but the 2% difference (it was 52%) falls within the poll's 3% margin of error -so you could say that the article below is an example of journalistic "massaging" -but I digress...

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Poll Says Most Believe Saddam-9/11 Link
Tue Jul 1, 9:46 AM ET

WASHINGTON - Seven in 10 people in a poll say the Bush administration implied that Iraq (news - web sites) and its leader Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) were involved in the Sept. 11 attacks against the United States.

And a majority, 52 percent, say they believe the United States has found clear evidence in Iraq that Saddam was working closely with the al-Qaida terrorist organization.

The number that believes this country has found weapons of mass destruction is 23 percent, down from 34 percent in May, according to a poll conducted by the Program on International Policy Attitudes at the University of Maryland.

Prewar assertions by the Bush administration about al-Qaida's ties to the Iraqi government have not been proven, and weapons of mass destruction have not been found since the invasion of Iraq.

CIA officials have said that two trailers recovered in Iraq were mobile biological weapons laboratories; Bush administration officials have called the trailers the most significant evidence yet that their allegations of Saddam's weapons programs were accurate.

Only four in 10 of those polled, 39 percent, said they thought the government was being fully truthful when it presented evidence of links between Saddam and al-Qaida. But among those who thought the government was not telling the truth, people were more likely to say the government was "stretching the truth, but not making false statements" rather than "presenting evidence they knew was false."

The number who want the United Nations to take a leadership role in Iraq has grown from 50 percent in April to 64 percent now.

More than 60 U.S. troops have died in Iraq since President Bush declared May 1 that major combat had ended. But the American public remains committed to sticking with the Iraq mission.

Eight in 10 said the United States has the responsibility to remain in Iraq as long as necessary until there is a stable government.

The poll of 1,051 adults was taken June 18-25 by Knowledge Networks and has an error margin of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
 

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I don't its entirely outside the realm of possibility for Saddam to have somehow motivated/funded/aided the attacks on 9/11 but I have yet to see any concrete evidence supporting that allegation. The United States used the furor over the 9/11 attacks to justify the "liberation" of the Iraqi people.

Months and months prior to the operation, the Bush administration was swearing up and down that Iraq was concealing weapons of mass destruction and as soon as the combat started it was suddenly a "liberation" of the people. I've never had much faith in the Bush administration to begin with so I'm not surprised that they've failed to establish a firm reason for why we did what we did.
 
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I think its a frivious poll. Asking the 'military intelligence'- ignorant American if there is a Saddam/9-11 connection is baseless. Its like asking some random person on the street what they think of cold fusion or what kind of engines we will be using in space in the future. They don't know, neither do I. I don't know anything about the military intelligence nor do I know anything appreciable about how to make an intelligent and educated hypothesis about such questions.

Sorry but I think the poll posted asking what Americans thought was a very stupid and baseless poll created solely for some gossipy stories to be written in every newspaper looking to make a buck.

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I doubt he had any direct contribution to the 9-11 attack. I wouldnt be suprised if he knew about it and I guess could have helped fund it. Even though Binladen has enough money to do it himself. Hell I amlost wouldnt be suprised if our own government had something to do with it. Suposidly they had intel on this and we even helped fund Sadam back in like 1982 for some of his reign. Thats what they said on Bowling for Columbine anyway.


Oh yeah. And where are the weapons of mass distruction that we were suposidly fighting over in the first place.

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Who gives a shit whether or not he was behind it or not. Saddam was a sadistic evil piece of shit that needed to be flushed... and our boys from the USA and UK + Aussie Land did the job right and kicked ass!

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Tehcno:
I doubt he had any direct contribution to the 9-11 attack. I wouldnt be suprised if he knew about it and I guess could have helped fund it. Even though Binladen has enough money to do it himself. Hell I amlost wouldnt be suprised if our own government had something to do with it. Suposidly they had intel on this and we even helped fund Sadam back in like 1982 for some of his reign. Thats what they said on Bowling for Columbine anyway.


Oh yeah. And where are the weapons of mass distruction that we were suposidly fighting over in the first place.
Please tell me you do not base everything you believe on movies you see. eek_2
 

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If I was trying to execute a terrorist operation of the magnitude of the 9/11 attacks, I wouldn't involve Saddam to the point he'd actually know what was going on. It would jeopardize the entire operation to let more than the necessary amount of people know exactly what was going on.
 

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Ugh...

Most americans are spoon fed news, information and rhetoric... and this is part of it. You can make any sort of poll you want and get an answer you desire, just by manipulating the language, asking the right demographic or whatever. Public opinion stuff is a joke and just feeds the propaganda machine that we like to call "the media".

I could care less what anyone thought about a link. The guy on the street isn't in the driver's seat, you elected these officials and they're making your decisions. You choose to live in a Representative Democracy, it's part of the social contract. Don't like it? Vote... still don't like it? voice your opinion.. make yourself heard, get elected and do it your way.

This country is de-evolving into "1984" a little more each day.

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VanillaThunder:
Ugh...

Most americans are spoon fed news, information and rhetoric... and this is part of it. You can make any sort of poll you want and get an answer you desire, just by manipulating the language, asking the right demographic or whatever. Public opinion stuff is a joke and just feeds the propaganda machine that we like to call "the media".

I could care less what anyone thought about a link. The guy on the street isn't in the driver's seat, you elected these officials and they're making your decisions. You choose to live in a Representative Democracy, it's part of the social contract. Don't like it? Vote... still don't like it? voice your opinion.. make yourself heard, get elected and do it your way.

This country is de-evolving into "1984" a little more each day.
Glad someone else other than me see this! The last option of course is for the ppl who see the truth (I'll make a MATRIX pun here) to amass and "Free" the minds of the collective majority and wage a Revolution against the lifeless ordinary of the powers that be, wipe the slate clean and start anew... getting back to the original "Grass Roots Democracy" that the nation was supossed to be about. Instead we have Spin docotored bullshit... glossy adverts... a blahsphemous nation, and a generation and a half of gutless ppl who are so benumbed by the idea of having to be active, or even shed blood to ensure their own rights... that I may very well live to see the Mustashoied man on billboards everywhere. If so, I'd be the dude Tagging the signs, and causing mayhem in their Bubble World of "Conformity".

Boo Fuckin' Hoo!

Ppl need to educate... amasses, then take all the non-violent measures and use them. If they (the powers that be... corrupted by decades of arse fuckin' their constitueants etc... then remove them by force... "Boston Tea Party Part II" anyone?

Oh but I forget... in our lame ass Post 9-11 world saying anything like this, makes me suspect to yaddie, yadda, yadda right? Fuck it, I say let the chips fall where they may... let's evolve or blow ourselves to kingdom come. Enslavement of emotions and of the right to be an individual isn't any different than wanton physical violence brought upon millions (called a Genocide)... it's the same thing. And the pureveoyrs of it are just as much "terroists" as ppl who fly planes into buildings.

AMEN VANILLA THUNDER... AMEN!
 

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It's most likely not true. Al-Qaeda and Saddam's regime, while sharing America as a common enemy, also happen to be in very different sects of Islam. I'm sure 9/11 gave Hussein a massive giggle fit, but as for having any role in it, very, very doubtful. Given that the US has been balls deep in Iraq (from an intelligence standpoint) since 1991, I truly doubt that Al-Qaeda operatives would have been dumb enough to leak word of the operation anywhere near Iraq.

As for what people believe, shit, that means zippo. Most folks are still dumb enough to consider GWB our legitimately elected leader.
'Nuff said.
 

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I still think I could make a fortune off a Saddam themed porno site.

You know the way chicks would go to prisons and offer to marry serial killers?

Well, my theory is that there's gay dudes who would pay $19.95 a month to look at gay porn featuring either Saddam look-a-likes (Maybe we could even get on of his real doubles, there were supposed to be 8 of them) or simply normal porn digitally altered to look like Saddam's in it.

I'm looking for investors... wink
 

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well, I must agree with VanillaThunder that this Poll really doesn't prove a whole lot. However, I still think it shows very clearly that most Americans are still desperately trying to believe that our government is still indeed, "For the People." I don't feel as extremely as MegaDrive, but I think that people need to wake up. we've seen too many instances just in the last 50 years of our elected leaders deceiving the People they supposedly serve. if anything is to get better, the public at large has got to become more skeptical.
 
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orochi_lubu:
he is a jackass and so is bin laden. they should be bathed in acid.
Strong acid to make them burn up like the fires of Hell?

or

Weak acid to digest slowly?
 

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Shred:
Tehcno:
I doubt he had any direct contribution to the 9-11 attack. I wouldnt be suprised if he knew about it and I guess could have helped fund it. Even though Binladen has enough money to do it himself. Hell I amlost wouldnt be suprised if our own government had something to do with it. Suposidly they had intel on this and we even helped fund Sadam back in like 1982 for some of his reign. Thats what they said on Bowling for Columbine anyway.


Oh yeah. And where are the weapons of mass distruction that we were suposidly fighting over in the first place.
Please tell me you do not base everything you believe on movies you see. eek_2
The only part that I was talking about that was on Bowling for columbine was the US giving funds to sadam.
 
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