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neosd
11-10-2018, 05:34 AM
Hello guys,

We got transparent shells and case pictures today.

We are still trying to decide if we will go with solid black shells/case or with transparent ones.

I think AES transparent case looks pretty cool and the set will look much cooler in transparent smoke ratter than in solid black.

The ones with a super sd system 3 can imagine that the final pieces will look much better than those pictures.

We should have samples here at the end of the next week and we will have to take a decision to start producing shells.

Anyways, here are the pictures. Please, feel free to coment about those and about your own preference (solid black vs smoke transparent)

http://downloads.terraonion.com/public/neosdpro_preproduction/both_1.JPEG
http://downloads.terraonion.com/public/neosdpro_preproduction/both_2.JPEG
http://downloads.terraonion.com/public/neosdpro_preproduction/both_3.png
http://downloads.terraonion.com/public/neosdpro_preproduction/case_0.jpg
http://downloads.terraonion.com/public/neosdpro_preproduction/case_1.jpg
http://downloads.terraonion.com/public/neosdpro_preproduction/case_2.jpg
http://downloads.terraonion.com/public/neosdpro_preproduction/shell_back.jpg
http://downloads.terraonion.com/public/neosdpro_preproduction/shell_conector.jpg





Alex,

neosd
11-10-2018, 05:35 AM
More pictures

http://downloads.terraonion.com/public/neosdpro_preproduction/shell_front.jpg
http://downloads.terraonion.com/public/neosdpro_preproduction/side_1.jpg
http://downloads.terraonion.com/public/neosdpro_preproduction/side_2.jpg


EDIT : Notice that the pictures were taken with regular old neosd pcbs, not with neosd PRO pcbs.

Ilovejapangirls
11-10-2018, 06:26 AM
Dear god, they look gorgeous ...but I prefer the solid black color

titchgamer
11-10-2018, 06:29 AM
They look great!
I to would prefer a Solid black as its more "traditional" but they do look great smoked as well!

elevengames
11-10-2018, 06:36 AM
I'll be purchasing the MVS Pro Day 1 regardless, but Transparent Smoke would be my preference.

snes_collector
11-10-2018, 07:52 AM
I like the transparent smoke, looks great!

Niko
11-10-2018, 08:31 AM
My vote is for transparent smoke. Looks good.

Soundwave GI
11-10-2018, 08:56 AM
It’s an instant purchase either way, but the smoked looks great.

Jumpingmanjim
11-10-2018, 09:50 AM
Gotta have that transparent smoke, looks beautiful.

Gamemaster
11-10-2018, 10:22 AM
I would prefer solid black, but maybe do options so everyone can choose when purchasing.

fenikso
11-10-2018, 10:44 AM
Is it going to have a headphone jack for link games? Just wondering if that's what the hole is for....

I like transparent casings on my electronics, so transparent black for me. Looks great, btw.

neosd
11-10-2018, 11:56 AM
Is it going to have a headphone jack for link games? Just wondering if that's what the hole is for....

I like transparent casings on my electronics, so transparent black for me. Looks great, btw.

Its a serial port, we could use it for link games or for other things.

sr20det510
11-11-2018, 04:59 AM
Looks great.
What about doing a solid black case and transparent shell combo?

Either way, black or transparent smoke will look amazing.

aha2940
11-12-2018, 12:08 PM
I can't decide...both look great, both have advantages...anyway, whatever you decide, I'll be getting an AES one day 1 (hope my budget for this is enough :) ).

neosd
11-12-2018, 12:35 PM
I can't decide...both look great, both have advantages...anyway, whatever you decide, I'll be getting an AES one day 1 (hope my budget for this is enough :) ).


I can't decide...both look great, both have advantages...anyway, whatever you decide, I'll be getting an AES one day 1 (hope my budget for this is enough :) ).

Yes, its tough decision.

There are 3 factors, the first one is the weight and dimensions.

NEOSD PRO Shell is 220 grs and a case is another 220 more grs (aprox) so its 400-440 grs to ship from China to Spain, plus the space it takes in a box.

The other 2 is that we have to store those here and that we canīt really import shells that no one is going to choose.

So this makes it a tough decision, i myself would preffer the transparent one (i think the case looks amazing this way), but if you guys preffer solid black, i will just keep the 5 transparent samples that will arrive here next week, for myself and just submit a solid black order for everyone else.
We have to see the final pieces here next week, live, to take a decision. Cover designer needs to see it also.

BTW Transparent one also has an extra (production) cost cause color treatment.

About the price :

Our plan is to get (regular) NEOSD actual price and the production costs difference from (regular) NEOSD and NEOSD PRO, then sum those 2 and make an small rebate on NEOSD PRO final price.

EXAMPLE :

So lets say that if the production costs difference among (regular) NEOSD and NEOSD PRO is 10 euros, and (regular) NEOSD price is 450 euros shipped, we would put NEOSD PRO price to 458 euros. This is more or less the plan.

But 458 euros will not be the price, its just an example. The price will be higher cause NEOSD PRO is a really expensive product to produce and manufacturing risk is really high there cause it has a pile of chips. Just imagine one of those SRAMS is faulty or bad soldered, we would loose a really high amount of money with just one faulty unit.

Resuming : we preffer to sell regular NEOSDs ratter than PROs, we are already producing the first PRO batch and depending about how it performs (sales) and how the failure rate at factory is (i think its about 0,3% on regular NEOSD now) we will decide if we would produce more NEOSD PROS once we are out of srams and flashes or we will just produce regular NEOSDs and not more PROs.

Gentlegamer
11-12-2018, 01:06 PM
I would prefer the classic black shell.

Fygee
11-12-2018, 03:33 PM
I dig the transparent one, and would further differentiate it from the original NeoSD in a cool way.

I'd prefer a black case though.

Maybe do MVS one way and AES the other?

elevengames
11-12-2018, 03:48 PM
Maybe do MVS one way and AES the other?

I like this idea quite a bit. Have MVS be transparent and AES solid black.

snes_collector
11-12-2018, 04:16 PM
Honestly, even though I prefer the smoke, if it adds to cost I would just go with the solid black.

neosd
11-12-2018, 04:32 PM
Honestly, even though I prefer the smoke, if it adds to cost I would just go with the solid black.

The price is more or less decided (since last week), cause we are only waiting for final molds/shells production/shipping costs, BUT we are using the pcbs production costs as reference/difference to set the price, cause if we use molds/shipment/shells productions costs to do the maths, the price may go to the skies.

We asume that we are going to have much less margin on NEOSD PRO than the one we had in regular NEOSD, but there is an important reason to create NEOSD PRO, so we decided to make it (its not competition BTW)

Resuming : even if we go with transparent shell and the price of the shells is a bit higher for us, it will not make a difference on the price of NEOSD PRO.

BTW : We just donīt want to anounce the price until we show the final device and open sales, i hope you guys understand that, we want to make a proper release as much as possible

Alex,

Gamemaster
11-12-2018, 04:55 PM
Just wonder, do you plan to sell terraonion cases to NeoSD owners, since they came without one ?

RAZO
11-12-2018, 05:03 PM
I prefer Solid Black.

neosd
11-12-2018, 05:06 PM
Just wonder, do you plan to sell terraonion cases to NeoSD owners, since they came without one ?

The main issue about this is shipping costs : 12 euros to europe/16 euros outside europe (from Spain), then you have to add 21% spanish VAT on the invoice (only to europe)

But, there is a posibility we could do it. This relies on shipping the shells from China to the customer, factory said they could do it but we donīt know how much it would cost us.

Resuming : we would like to, doing it from Europe would make the price high cause shipping shells from china to spain (pay duty), and shipping those back to the final customer with european shipping costs would ruin the deal, but we may be able to do it shipping from China to final customer directly reducing shipping costs.

Numsay
11-12-2018, 06:23 PM
I will be buying one and prefer black. That said, I would buy smoke without hesitation if that was all that was left.

snes_collector
11-12-2018, 06:49 PM
The price is more or less decided (since last week), cause we are only waiting for final molds/shells production/shipping costs, BUT we are using the pcbs production costs as reference/difference to set the price, cause if we use molds/shipment/shells productions costs to do the maths, the price may go to the skies.

We asume that we are going to have much less margin on NEOSD PRO than the one we had in regular NEOSD, but there is an important reason to create NEOSD PRO, so we decided to make it (its not competition BTW)

Resuming : even if we go with transparent shell and the price of the shells is a bit higher for us, it will not make a difference on the price of NEOSD PRO.

BTW : We just donīt want to anounce the price until we show the final device and open sales, i hope you guys understand that, we want to make a proper release as much as possible

Alex,

I see, thanks for the clairification. Either way you all decide to go, looking forward to the final product!

Gamemaster
11-13-2018, 07:06 AM
The main issue about this is shipping costs : 12 euros to europe/16 euros outside europe (from Spain), then you have to add 21% spanish VAT on the invoice (only to europe)

But, there is a posibility we could do it. This relies on shipping the shells from China to the customer, factory said they could do it but we donīt know how much it would cost us.

Resuming : we would like to, doing it from Europe would make the price high cause shipping shells from china to spain (pay duty), and shipping those back to the final customer with european shipping costs would ruin the deal, but we may be able to do it shipping from China to final customer directly reducing shipping costs.

Yeah seperate shipping from china seems an option and when its only 1 case i think there will be no VAT / import tax. Howerver I know chinese packing, its often bad.

As speaking for myself, i just waiting for the NeoSD Pro, i will buy the Super SD System 3 too to save on shipping and some extra case for my NeoSD will fall under same combined shipping i guess.

abathur
11-13-2018, 08:50 AM
I like solid black best, but this smoke look is quite nice, too. Could as well be hello kitty pink for all I care, as long as the internals are as good as they seem to be.

neosd
11-15-2018, 12:42 PM
We got shell samples today,

Some quick pictures of the conectors to show the adjustment.

https://twitter.com/terraonion/status/1063139305735053312

I will try to take some pictures with sunlight tomorrow.

BTW, we got solid black and transparent samples and transparent look much better than solid black on hands. The finish is pretty good

elevengames
11-15-2018, 12:48 PM
We got shell samples today,

Some quick pictures of the conectors to show the adjustment.

https://twitter.com/terraonion/status/1063139305735053312

I will try to take some pictures with sunlight tomorrow.

BTW, we got solid black and transparent samples and transparent look much better than solid black on hands. The finish is pretty good

It's beautiful!

neosd
11-16-2018, 04:36 AM
ok guys, i think we are going with the transparent one, it looks so cool (to my eyes)

https://twitter.com/terraonion/status/1063379474945851392

titchgamer
11-16-2018, 05:11 AM
Lookin good!

Gamemaster
11-16-2018, 09:28 AM
Hope the transparent plastic is lasting long, i had quite some that did break after a while. Dont know why, just broke for no reason.

Rot
11-16-2018, 11:05 AM
Hope the transparent plastic is lasting long, i had quite some that did break after a while. Dont know why, just broke for no reason.

Takumaji has the same problem... I'll tell you what i told him in chat...

BIG FAT GERMAN HANDS = BAD!

xROTx

neosd
11-16-2018, 11:16 AM
Hope the transparent plastic is lasting long, i had quite some that did break after a while. Dont know why, just broke for no reason.

Well, there are a lot of different plastics outside there.

For example, if you get a piece of plastic that breaks, this is done with recycled plastic.

We use ABS plastic for our devices

XxHennersXx
11-20-2018, 01:50 PM
The transparent looks cool, but I'd prefer classic black.

Numsay
12-03-2018, 10:38 AM
Looks like these are available to order at Terra Onion and available to pre order at Stone age gamer.

elevengames
12-03-2018, 11:11 AM
Looks like these are available to order at Terra Onion and available to pre order at Stone age gamer.

No, you are seeing the non-Pro versions.

Numsay
12-03-2018, 11:17 AM
No, you are seeing the non-Pro versions.

Oh sorry thanks for the correction. It's the plain NEO SD that is now back in stock. I posted in the correct thread.