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xorthen
12-04-2017, 01:25 PM
Discuss. :tickled:

smokehouse
12-04-2017, 02:01 PM
I'm pretty sure that it is CLEARLY listed (somewhere) that white people are not allowed, under any condition, to be offended.

Thierry Henry
12-04-2017, 02:06 PM
Play That Funky Music White Boy



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RAZO
12-04-2017, 02:07 PM
I'm pretty sure that it is CLEARLY listed (somewhere) that white people are not allowed, under any condition, to be offended.

This. White privilege.

smokehouse
12-04-2017, 02:20 PM
This. White privilege.

Wait though...can white women be offended? I mean...everything is now women AND minority this-and-that. I may be wrong, but there may be a sub clause in there somewhere that states that a white woman, under certain (and well laid out) circumstances are allowed to be offended.

SteveNK
12-04-2017, 02:52 PM
No real man should be offended about anything. He should be bitter, and vengeful.

lachlan
12-04-2017, 03:04 PM
No real man should be offended about anything. He should be bitter, and vengeful.

Drunk, don't forget Drunk.

Evil Wasabi
12-04-2017, 03:04 PM
No real man should be offended about anything. He should be bitter, and vengeful.

You know how I know your wife has herpes?

jro
12-04-2017, 03:05 PM
You know how I know your wife has herpes?

"STD-positive" was the last item on the list?

RAZO
12-04-2017, 03:33 PM
Wait though...can white women be offended? I mean...everything is now women AND minority this-and-that. I may be wrong, but there may be a sub clause in there somewhere that states that a white woman, under certain (and well laid out) circumstances are allowed to be offended.

Bro, the white woman falls under the all female category, she could be offended. The White Male on the other hand has his own category, according to society is suppose to shut up and take it.

Evil Wasabi
12-04-2017, 03:39 PM
Wait though...can white women be offended? I mean...everything is now women AND minority this-and-that. I may be wrong, but there may be a sub clause in there somewhere that states that a white woman, under certain (and well laid out) circumstances are allowed to be offended.

Fuck sakes man. Look who OP is. Do you want to be engaging that troll?

Bogard
12-04-2017, 03:41 PM
Wait though...can white women be offended? I mean...everything is now women AND minority this-and-that. I may be wrong, but there may be a sub clause in there somewhere that states that a white woman, under certain (and well laid out) circumstances are allowed to be offended.

correct. white is evil and woman are not, there for there's no such thing as a white woman. only white evil men.


edit:

funny we're talking about this. just today at lunch break i over heard some guy from the table in front of me trying to convince his friends that he isn't white because there's a picture of him with some what of a tan.

smokehouse
12-04-2017, 03:49 PM
Fuck sakes man. Look who OP is. Do you want to be engaging that troll?

Yeah...it's the WW...let her rip.


...lunch brake...

This made me chuckle...

Bogard
12-04-2017, 03:55 PM
Yeah...it's the WW...let her rip.



This made me chuckle...

:keke: been reading to many of karou's posts

Ami Tajiri
12-04-2017, 04:59 PM
Wait though...can white women be offended? I mean...everything is now women AND minority this-and-that. I may be wrong, but there may be a sub clause in there somewhere that states that a white woman, under certain (and well laid out) circumstances are allowed to be offended.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality

GohanX
12-04-2017, 06:00 PM
Kill Whitey.

fakeXsound
12-04-2017, 06:01 PM
As a white boy, the only people I've felt exploited by are richer white people and The Reptilians.

oliverclaude
12-04-2017, 06:15 PM
He should be bitter, and vengeful.

Let's not make it too easy for ourselves.

xorthen
12-04-2017, 06:49 PM
Kill Whitey.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlJdPOkMa9k

smokehouse
12-04-2017, 08:13 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality

Ok.....I honestly attempted to read that...


I will not make that mistake again.

Mr Bakaboy
12-04-2017, 10:02 PM
Whitey, Cracker, White Trash, and "The White Man" are the only offensive ones that come to mind. Though as Smokehouse stated being offended by such things are not allowed and offenders must apologise immediately after any outburst from being offended by said words.

joala
12-04-2017, 10:15 PM
I find it funny as fuck to be called a cracker.

I dont have enough racial slurs thrown at me.

Syn
12-04-2017, 10:31 PM
I'm such a white boy, my rap name is Y T.

GregN
12-05-2017, 12:40 AM
Kracker just isn't offensive. Neither is white boy.

oliverclaude
12-05-2017, 04:11 AM
I'm such a white boy, my rap name is Y T.

Lol, with patnahs in crime MCs Ima Black & Hugh Jass.

Evil Wasabi
12-05-2017, 05:38 AM
Whitey, Cracker, White Trash, and "The White Man" are the only offensive ones that come to mind. Though as Smokehouse stated being offended by such things are not allowed and offenders must apologise immediately after any outburst from being offended by said words.

The white guy can go wipe his tears with his privilege.

LoneSage
12-05-2017, 07:09 AM
The white guy can go wipe his tears with his privilege.

what is it with you and white guys recently goddamn wasabi

iirc you were offended for being considered not white just a few years ago'

you know i love you man. i can't even grasp the pressure you're under. still come on man.

ehhhhhhhhhh

Evil Wasabi
12-05-2017, 07:25 AM
what is it with you and white guys recently goddamn wasabi

iirc you were offended for being considered not white just a few years ago'

you know i love you man. i can't even grasp the pressure you're under. still come on man.

ehhhhhhhhhh

I don’t care if someone is white. But if a white dude is going to be like “don’t oppress me” or “why is this happening to me?!!1!” I will point out the ridiculousness. Everyone has problems but not everyone has the same problems. Like Smokehouse can be like “bills this month and taxes are through the roof!” And the Iranian guy will be like “Supreme Court just sides with the POTUS to designate me and people of my ethnic background as second class citizens... I wish bills and taxes were the worst of my problems.” Then you have the black guy who is thinking “well at least you aren’t getting shot at for no reason by cops.”

RAZO
12-05-2017, 07:58 AM
I don’t care if someone is white. But if a white dude is going to be like “don’t oppress me” or “why is this happening to me?!!1!” I will point out the ridiculousness. Everyone has problems but not everyone has the same problems. Like Smokehouse can be like “bills this month and taxes are through the roof!” And the Iranian guy will be like “Supreme Court just sides with the POTUS to designate me and people of my ethnic background as second class citizens... I wish bills and taxes were the worst of my problems.” Then you have the black guy who is thinking “well at least you aren’t getting shot at for no reason by cops.”


Lol I love you bro but you need to open your eyes and stop watching liberal news stations that just report racist and feminist propaganda and everything else doesn't matter. Not saying that other races don't have their issues and hardships but to say that all whitey's have it so much easier and have to keep their mouth shut is a bit ignorant brother.

Evil Wasabi
12-05-2017, 08:17 AM
Lol I love you bro but you need to open your eyes and stop watching liberal news stations that just report racist and feminist propaganda and everything else doesn't matter. Not saying that other races don't have their issues and hardships but to say that all whitey's have it so much easier and have to keep their mouth shut is a bit ignorant brother.

Is it liberal to care more about the problems affecting our civil rights as a society, than someone’s right to be a troll?

RAZO
12-05-2017, 08:32 AM
Is it liberal to care more about the problems affecting our civil rights as a society, than someone’s right to be a troll?

I'm all for Civil Rights and equality brother but don't be mad at the majority of white's who keep their nose to the grindstone and try to respect the law.

Evil Wasabi
12-05-2017, 08:43 AM
I'm all for Civil Rights and equality brother but don't be mad at the majority of white's who keep their nose to the grindstone and try to respect the law.

Where did you get the idea that I was mad about that? Everyone should respect the law and work. It’s a shame when someone uses that as an excuse to ignore real problems of greater magnitude, just because the problem isn’t shared by the grace of ethnicity.

RAZO
12-05-2017, 08:51 AM
Where did you get the idea that I was mad about that? Everyone should respect the law and work. It’s a shame when someone uses that as an excuse to ignore real problems of greater magnitude, just because the problem isn’t shared by the grace of ethnicity.

I would rather argue these matters with you face to face over a few beers Vs. doing this through a computer. I know you have strong feelings on this subject ,as I've read many of your posts before, and you make some strong points. Maybe one day we will have the opportunity.

Tw3ek
12-05-2017, 09:19 AM
Whitey, Cracker, White Trash, and "The White Man" are the only offensive ones that come to mind. Though as Smokehouse stated being offended by such things are not allowed and offenders must apologise immediately after any outburst from being offended by said words.

How are any of these offensive in any way?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHi3FD4o-S8

smokehouse
12-05-2017, 10:24 AM
I don’t care if someone is white. But if a white dude is going to be like “don’t oppress me” or “why is this happening to me?!!1!” I will point out the ridiculousness. Everyone has problems but not everyone has the same problems. Like Smokehouse can be like “bills this month and taxes are through the roof!” And the Iranian guy will be like “Supreme Court just sides with the POTUS to designate me and people of my ethnic background as second class citizens... I wish bills and taxes were the worst of my problems.” Then you have the black guy who is thinking “well at least you aren’t getting shot at for no reason by cops.”

That's a broad view of things...but it does paint someone struggling to hold on to a middle class existence as being vapid.

My complaints seem silly...but they're much deeper than most give me credit for, and represent a massive problem in the US which is the erosion of the last bit of what was the middle class.

The poor...the wealthy...these two elements have always been and always will be. What made countries like America different was the ability for people to work their way into, and stay into the middle class. This class is rapidly disappearing and it is a huge problem...and something so many will downplay. The Iranian wanting to come into the country, that black man being shot at in the hood...neither of them have a single shred of hope if the middle class it eroded to the point of extinction.

When I say "my bills...my taxes...bla, bla, bla" What I really mean is "My pay hasn't changed in over a decade...but my groceries have gone up 40%, my utilities have gone up 30%,my insurance went up 35%, my taxes continue to climb" Me and most people like me are one large medial bill or accident with lost time away from bankruptcy. It currently takes 3 jobs to keep us afloat...this is a massive issue. Hell...on paper, I probably don'e even qualify as that anymore, truth be told.

I'm not saying I'm more important than others...what I'm saying is that the middle class was the only hope of most people to work into. Kill that off and what hope is left?

Evil Wasabi
12-05-2017, 10:43 AM
That's a broad view of things...but it does paint someone struggling to hold on to a middle class existence as being vapid.

My complaints seem silly...but they're much deeper than most give me credit for, and represent a massive problem in the US which is the erosion of the last bit of what was the middle class.

The poor...the wealthy...these two elements have always been and always will be. What made countries like America different was the ability for people to work their way into, and stay into the middle class. This class is rapidly disappearing and it is a huge problem...and something so many will downplay. The Iranian wanting to come into the country, that black man being shot at in the hood...neither of them have a single shred of hope if the middle class it eroded to the point of extinction.

When I say "my bills...my taxes...bla, bla, bla" What I really mean is "My pay hasn't changed in over a decade...but my groceries have gone up 40%, my utilities have gone up 30%,my insurance went up 35%, my taxes continue to climb" Me and most people like me are one large medial bill or accident with lost time away from bankruptcy. It currently takes 3 jobs to keep us afloat...this is a massive issue. Hell...on paper, I probably don'e even qualify as that anymore, truth be told.

I'm not saying I'm more important than others...what I'm saying is that the middle class was the only hope of most people to work into. Kill that off and what hope is left?


Everyone has a right to problems and your problems are reflective of Americans at large.

There are two ways not to help a problem
A) step aside and say you need to focus on your own problems
B) downplay the problems that other people are struggling with.

People tend to go with B - and I will venture that it’s due in large part to neural linguistic programming and indoctrination.

jro
12-05-2017, 10:52 AM
Some surprisingly thoughtful conversation here.

benjammin1701
12-05-2017, 11:18 AM
Some surprisingly thoughtful conversation here.

And just WHY is that surprising!?
You just figure a bunch of video game nerds won't have any interesting outlooks on social issues? Huh??
Racist....

smokehouse
12-05-2017, 11:29 AM
Everyone has a right to problems and your problems are reflective of Americans at large.

There are two ways not to help a problem
A) step aside and say you need to focus on your own problems
B) downplay the problems that other people are struggling with.

People tend to go with B - and I will venture that it’s due in large part to neural linguistic programming and indoctrination.

It's hard telling...but I will say that self preservation is a very basic instinct. We are programmed from birth to take care of yourself first, and we should be. If one is unable to sustain oneself, how can he/she sustain anyone else?

I've long said that all of these social issues are just noise to cover up the wealth gap. People fighting over inequality in useless, underpaid jobs, or fighting over "free" benefits from the state, it's all useless. The issue here is that things like housing, schooling, and healthcare are quickly slipping from the grasp of most Americans. After that has eroded completely, necessities like food will be next.

All of the money is being shoved into the pockets of a vast minority of the population meanwhile we're arguing over genitals, skin color, and nationality.

Masses being programmed to hate one another and vilify people making $100,000-250,000/yr while a select few are worth Billions...and soon trillions.

Articles like this one are the real problem:

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/16/the-worlds-eight-richest-people-have-same-amount-of-money-as-half-the-world-oxfam.html

We're squabbling about idiotic stuff, meanwhile 8 fucking people have the same wealth as half the world's population.

xorthen
12-05-2017, 11:32 AM
Damn smoke, that's depressing. The world could be better without all these greedy assholes fucking everything up for the rest of the masses.

SML
12-05-2017, 01:17 PM
Don't take my sense of grievance. It's all I have!

Taiso
12-05-2017, 01:39 PM
There isn't a single derogatory term for white people that has ever offended me. I think most of the terms I've heard are just kind of silly and stupid. I understand where they come from but terms like 'whitey', 'white boy', 'kracker' and 'honkey' are all just dumb IMO

Personally, I think the way the internet's progressive contingent has attempted to hijack terminology to create a sense of guilt is far more frustrating and difficult to deal with. I don't personally feel I'm a 'racist', but that term no longer means what it used to in some circles and there are those that believe I'm institutionalized into corrupt power structures.

I dismiss those as they are applied to me because I don't recall ever discriminating against someone because of the color of their skin. In fact, it seems I get into more random conversations with African Americans when I'm in Chicago than I do white folks. I don't feel threatened by anyone unless they're aggressively posturing on the Red Line or whatever, walking around and mumbling, their voices occasionally rising to bark out some half-decipherable curse.

But still, it is disconcerting that there are people out there that think they can't be racist because of the 'power+privilege' equation. I believe those things can LEAD to racism, and often have, but they are not an automatic and exclusive set of determining factors.

Honestly, being called 'racist' or 'cis scum' are more difficult perceptions to shrug off. And those aren't strictly jingoistic terms like 'white boy' and 'whitey' or whatever.

Tripredacus
12-05-2017, 02:04 PM
I read CIS Scum to be relating to post-Soviet Russia and former Soviet countries. I blame the Olympics.

Evil Wasabi
12-05-2017, 02:25 PM
There isn't a single derogatory term for white people that has ever offended me. I think most of the terms I've heard are just kind of silly and stupid. I understand where they come from but terms like 'whitey', 'white boy', 'kracker' and 'honkey' are all just dumb IMO

Personally, I think the way the internet's progressive contingent has attempted to hijack terminology to create a sense of guilt is far more frustrating and difficult to deal with. I don't personally feel I'm a 'racist', but that term no longer means what it used to in some circles and there are those that believe I'm institutionalized into corrupt power structures.

I dismiss those as they are applied to me because I don't recall ever discriminating against someone because of the color of their skin. In fact, it seems I get into more random conversations with African Americans when I'm in Chicago than I do white folks. I don't feel threatened by anyone unless they're aggressively posturing on the Red Line or whatever, walking around and mumbling, their voices occasionally rising to bark out some half-decipherable curse.

But still, it is disconcerting that there are people out there that think they can't be racist because of the 'power+privilege' equation. I believe those things can LEAD to racism, and often have, but they are not an automatic and exclusive set of determining factors.

Honestly, being called 'racist' or 'cis scum' are more difficult perceptions to shrug off. And those aren't strictly jingoistic terms like 'white boy' and 'whitey' or whatever.

If someone says CIS or Cisgender,

Always ask them to explain what that is.

And when they have completely answered, ask them why they don’t stick to the accepted terminology for the sake of clarity, and so that people they speak to can understand they are not insulting them.

lachlan
12-05-2017, 02:57 PM
This is such an American problem, we don't have that kind of bullshit here where groups of people are treated differently or they're shot by police. I can't remember the last time a policeman shot anyone and if they did it was for a legitimate cause. They can't shoot anyone without proper cause and even if they do there is an investigation into that and there's no getting off scot free because you're a 'cop'.

Corruption is rife in your good ole US of A in more ways than one.

Tripredacus
12-05-2017, 03:05 PM
This is such an American problem, we don't have that kind of bullshit here where groups of people are treated differently or they're shot by police. I can't remember the last time a policeman shot anyone and if they did it was for a legitimate cause. They can't shoot anyone without proper cause and even if they do there is an investigation into that and there's no getting off scot free because you're a 'cop'.

Corruption is rife in your good ole US of A in more ways than one.

Didn't some dude shoot up a bunch of people in the early 90s, and then Australia had a mandatory gun buyback program?

Evil Wasabi
12-05-2017, 03:08 PM
Someone needs to watch Quigley Down Under.

lachlan
12-06-2017, 04:03 AM
Didn't some dude shoot up a bunch of people in the early 90s, and then Australia had a mandatory gun buyback program?

Can't say I wouldn't mind owning the firearms you guys have access to but with that said it has worked.

Tripredacus
12-06-2017, 11:55 AM
Back on the subject, in movies people use the term "corn bread" to refer to whiteys. But corn bread is yellow.

Ami Tajiri
12-08-2017, 06:49 PM
Ok.....I honestly attempted to read that...

I appreciate your honest attempt, and I would be happy to discuss it with you civilly any time you like. Feel free to drop me a PM. I'll try to check up on this thread again. I'm glad to see the thoughtful discussion.

neobuyer
12-10-2017, 04:56 PM
I appreciate your honest attempt, and I would be happy to discuss it with you civilly any time you like. Feel free to drop me a PM. I'll try to check up on this thread again. I'm glad to see the thoughtful discussion.

I read it as well, Ami Tajiri.

Marxist-feminist critical theory

Collins's intersectionality theory and its relative principles have a wide range of applicability in the sociological realm, especially in topics such as politics and violence (see, for instance, Collins, 1998). The struggle faced by Black women in the economic sector, for example, demonstrates how the interrelated principles of Collins's theory come together to add a new dimension to Marxist economic theory. Collins used her insight and built a dynamic theory of political oppression as related to Black women in particular.

Marxist + Femenist + Theory = Batshit Crazier Than Timothy Leery, Amiri Tajiri Wanna Have a Theory My Little Deerie.

SML
12-11-2017, 05:39 AM
Maybe it's because I live in Texas, and maybe things are really, shockingly, different elsewhere, but "slurs" against whites don't mean a thing to me. They're funny, if anything. They're definitely not a threat or a reminder of "my place" in society.

Evil Wasabi
12-11-2017, 05:58 AM
Maybe it's because I live in Texas, and maybe things are really, shockingly, different elsewhere, but "slurs" against whites don't mean a thing to me. They're funny, if anything. They're definitely not a threat or a reminder of "my place" in society.

This is offensive to me because it says that you find minorities to be ineffective in their micro-aggressions to socially out rank you.