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SML
10-25-2016, 12:41 PM
Let's do this. Cards on the table. Are you ready to own your vote?

I surprised myself in 2004 by voting for Badnarik. I have voted Libertarian in the two subsequent races.

I surprised myself again this year. I'll hate myself for this for the next four years. I know I will.

Sometimes you have to pick your "fuck yous," and trying to turn Texas blue was the more important "fuck you" this year.

GohanX
10-25-2016, 12:44 PM
I voted for Pat McCrory for NC governor. In retrospect, I deeply regret that.

Famicommander
10-25-2016, 02:17 PM
I didn't vote because it doesn't matter.

Fuck the gubmints

Taiso
10-25-2016, 02:38 PM
Not voting for a president this year. I don't like any of the candidates and something felt wrong about giving any of them my vote.

Tw3ek
10-25-2016, 02:41 PM
I haven't gotten to vote yet, but I will be voting for Clinton. Not because I like her all that much (I don't) but because I really dislike a lot of what Trump says and seems to stand for.

Rot
10-25-2016, 02:48 PM
I was once told... that voting is showing your opinion matters...

I think this applies anywhere in the world... HOWEVER... as a UK resident looking in on this election... I have never seen 2 worse candidates...

Maybe you need a 3rd option... ##ROT4PREZ2016##...

xROTx

smokehouse
10-25-2016, 03:14 PM
I haven't gotten to vote yet, but I will be voting for Clinton. Not because I like her all that much (I don't) but because I really dislike a lot of what Trump says and seems to stand for.

...and this is why we fail...

LWK
10-25-2016, 03:32 PM
Hillary's a legit criminal. What is worse, some dumb statements from a New York douche or electing a bitch that dodges questions on her back stabs? Lies right to your face and has a completely different plan with the banking elite who fund her. She's WAY worse then Trump. I am voting Trump, but it's not without issue either, but she stands for her own greed.. Make no mistake, she's the bankers choice, so expect no real change in communities. We cannot function forever as a service industry primarily. I can only imagine that regulations are so fucked up in the USA, there is no incentive to make goods here. I don't blame companies for exploiting other countries with our pussified liberal laws designed to uphold the religious psychosis of climate change, what is the benefit of bothering producing anything here? It is not a smart business decision. She's just another arm of George Soros level globalism. I'll give Trump's ideas a try over her, because I am so done with her fucking excuses and dishonest leftist bullshit. The fact the Bush family is behind her is even better, I hate those fuckers to.

What is the future gonna be when she wins? Why do people keep falling for this 'I am afraid to try something new' shit? When is the trillions of debt going to finally just crash the dollar? How many modern american gender centric etc special snowflake types are gonna have a clue how to deal with that?

Fuzzytaco
10-25-2016, 03:34 PM
I voted Trump's combover as a write in.

norton9478
10-25-2016, 03:40 PM
When is the trillions of debt going to finally just crash the dollar?

If that were to be your primary concern, then you might not want to vote for trump.

Tw3ek
10-25-2016, 04:20 PM
...and this is why we fail...

Where I live, Trump is gonna win regardless because he's got that all important R next to his name, so you'll forgive me if I'd rather just vote against him because I don't care for him. Both the 3rd party candidates to me are complete garbage and a write-in accomplishes what without a major campaign behind it. What's the way to not be part of why we fail, stay home? Doubt it. Throw my vote away? Nah, don't think so. Vote for whom I like more and at least TRY to get someone better on the ticket the next go-around? Not ideal, but seems alright to me.

Also, I notice you didn't say who you're gonna vote for. It's quite easy to criticize without putting yourself in the same position. How are you gonna avoid being part of how we fail?

Tanooki
10-25-2016, 04:31 PM
Im so disgusted I didnt bother to register since moving back here and this shithole of a choice being my options.

SML
10-25-2016, 04:31 PM
Not voting for a president this year. I don't like any of the candidates and something felt wrong about giving any of them my vote.

Interesting. I kind of figured you might be for Trump on the DL.

Poppy
10-25-2016, 04:41 PM
@ lwk - "I can only imagine that regulations are so fucked up in this country that there's no incentive to make good here anymore"


You, can only imagine? As in assume? As in "stands to reason"?

Hey at least you admit taking talking points at face value.

LWK
10-25-2016, 05:02 PM
If that were to be your primary concern, then you might not want to vote for trump.

Either way this economy will have some kind of crash moving forward. I'd much rather reduce the regulations in place of it to ease the chaos. Thing is, I live in California, so unless you've lived here, you have no idea how leftist it is here. My vote feels like a rebellion.. I am sick of the mentality and the bullshit. It is literally eunich town USA. In walking distance from where I'm at I can find a bunch of illegals loitering around a now closed Albertsons. They also hang around this Home Depot area.. You can't even point it out because that is 'racist'. That same Albertsons building has been rotting for years and who knows what seedy shit that might be encouraging.

I'm just honestly disgusted with the double standards. Police do nothing about these illegals. We also have a big increase in homeless. Our 'governer' is a complete climate change propagandist pussy to. So where is Obama's "change"? He's gone out of his way with this health care crap, and now he's campaigning around for Hillary? Why even be president? Stay out of it and focus on your nonsense promises as POTUS.. There's some severely run down communities who could use the 'climate change' funds and other corrupted nonsense to actually make a good change. I like amnesty.. They can make a legitimate living and pay into this system we have.. This is where I like Hillary's view, but her other bullshit just makes it not possible for me to continue with her as a vote. She cannot be trusted... Nobody faces the tough questions. Don't blacks kill each other in record numbers? Rather then address this problem, leftist thinking has made it to racist to even touch that subject, when the way to fix it is to confront it and the cultural issues that need to be addressed to actually help these communities, rather then undermine their abilities.

I like Trump, he's a nice middle finger to the naive feelings parade we live in. Also, I am not 'excited' about entering a ton of Syrian migrants from a area so war torn they have to flee to begin with. I mean, let's take a look at Europe. So far, look at the results, shroom voted for Trump also, he lives in Germany. Merkel and Hillary are to similar.. Everyone hates on Trump because it's the socially fun thing to do, and he says some really ridiculous stuff, but look how much he is out there trying. I don't even care if he's a moron, his heart is in it, his own money is in it. When he called out Hillary for not putting some of her own gravy in, that to me was a pivotal class warfare point, and it really SHOWS where she is. This presidency is just another step in her political career. Her career will always come before us. Where is Hillary's real effort? Talking to her banker friends behind doors, or how Trump feels about women? I don't give a shit what Trump thinks about women. Trump may be a terrible president, but I want to try something new. What pisses me off more is how Hillary talks like she's going to fight the rich, that bitch is strongly top 1% and rich as hell, and she even admitted to not being amongst middle class ranks behind closed doors.

WoodyXP
10-25-2016, 05:05 PM
I voted for Trump.


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The_Chosen_One
10-25-2016, 05:58 PM
I was once told... that voting is showing your opinion matters...

I think this applies anywhere in the world... HOWEVER... as a UK resident looking in on this election... I have never seen 2 worse candidates...

Maybe you need a 3rd option... ##ROT4PREZ2016##...

xROTx



Technically we have a third and fourth option but neither have much if any chance of winning.

LWK
10-25-2016, 06:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwOJYBYwOhA

Tanooki
10-25-2016, 08:29 PM
Technically we have a third and fourth option but neither have much if any chance of winning.

Technically we have a fifth option and that ex-CIA man is leading in Utah (Evan McMullin) and if that guy holds it that is 6EC votes. In that 5% chance trump and clinton can not break 270 EC votes this guy would be why. Itwouldgo to the house for a vote for president, each state would get 1 vote and thats it, no more where california carries more weight. As there are notably more red states than blue by count *not population.* So it would come down in the end to the GOP wanting to tell trump to eat a dick and vote McMullin in, or not because theres no fucking way theyd let Hillary have it. The senate would then pick the VPwhich is Pence or Kaine. The incoming house and senate would vote too, not the outgoing. Theres a chance the DNC would have the senate so as impossible as it is you could see a McMullin Kaine or McMullin Pence ticket because the GOP and DNC want Trump to die in a fire.

SML
10-25-2016, 08:42 PM
Technically we have a fifth option and that ex-CIA man is leading in Utah (Evan McMullin) and if that guy holds it that is 6EC votes. In that 5% chance trump and clinton can not break 270 EC votes this guy would be why. Itwouldgo to the house for a vote for president, each state would get 1 vote and thats it, no more where california carries more weight. As there are notably more red states than blue by count *not population.* So it would come down in the end to the GOP wanting to tell trump to eat a dick and vote McMullin in, or not because theres no fucking way theyd let Hillary have it. The senate would then pick the VPwhich is Pence or Kaine. The incoming house and senate would vote too, not the outgoing. Theres a chance the DNC would have the senate so as impossible as it is you could see a McMullin Kaine or McMullin Pence ticket because the GOP and DNC want Trump to die in a fire.

I heaaar that many Utah Democrats are voting McMullin as well, since Clinton likely doesn't need Utah.

LWK
10-25-2016, 09:41 PM
Edit: Didn't know for sure this was from a film. I don't like violating people shit, so I'm deleting the video.

cdamm
10-25-2016, 09:46 PM
I heaaar that many Utah Democrats are voting McMullin as well, since Clinton likely doesn't need Utah.

fwiw, no one needs utah.

norton9478
10-25-2016, 10:08 PM
Trump is a huckster. If you think his heart is in it, you are a mark.

LWK
10-25-2016, 10:13 PM
His heart is in it. He campaigns non stop, stuck his own money in. He's risked his entire brand to just voice his views, which has hurt him clearly. I don't agree with them all either, but the bottom line is, he's way more likable then Hillary will ever be. This would be a better election if it were him vs Bernie, but that didn't happen. I think Trump would beat Bernie to. You know how much guts this dude must have had to go to the 2nd debate after the fall out of that week? Most people would have folded.. I mean, let's step back a bit. That dude has hella heart for what he's trying to achieve.

Your statement fits Hillary, I wouldn't say it fits Trump.

He's just put in more effort then Hillary has, everyone can see it. Love or hate the guy, I won't say I don't respect that amount of drive. Trump was even delivering supplies while Obama was out golfing just to make him look like a little bitch. I love watching him smoke these politicians. The fact the Bush's hate him alone has my vote. There is something else I see in this guy that came to me slowly over time. It's weird because I was gonna go from Bernie to Hillary to protect against him, but here it is.. He likes a fixer upper. This is how I've built myself up. Buying broken shit on the low and repairing it. Candy cabs for example. I've got three of those dead and made them functional. I do jewelry repair on stuff I get for low prices. I'm into a lot of hobbies and finding ways to repair stuff. The USA is Trump's fixer upper in his eyes, he see's it as a whole with that. I am a grunt who likes DIY stuff. I like this attitude, but he expresses it in a different sense. He makes stupid statements and wrong ones, but for him and the people who support him, he's more forgivable then Hillary because he doesn't have that same 'you're lying right to me' feeling. He can lie all he wants to, nobody will trust Hillary more then him, because he doesn't come with that same feeling of fake shit you get with her. I can't shake this feeling I have about her as a person.

I tried swallowing the Hillary pill, laying back and running it the way we have to feel 'safe', but fuck it. I want to try a new idea. I'm tired of these smooth talking bullshit artists.

Taiso
10-25-2016, 11:01 PM
Interesting. I kind of figured you might be for Trump on the DL.

The biggest problem I have with Trump is the fact that I don't believe he cares about improving this country.

Yeah, there is a LOT about him to dislike. The sexual assault, the bigotry, the inability to debate on the political stage, the xenophobia.

But honestly, and this is just my belief, every politician feels this way. He just has no filter and no self control.

The biggest problem I have with him, even above all that other stuff, is that he comes off to me as a guy that just wants to be able to say he became president. It feels to me like he just wants it as a feather in his cap.

I know he's popular because of his authenticity platform. But it's just not that authentic to me.

wyo
10-25-2016, 11:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKeYbEOSqYc

Nice video, glad you like. Here's the rest of it...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1EnRLZ3p4o&feature=youtu.be&t=25m30s

The_Chosen_One
10-25-2016, 11:08 PM
But honestly, and this is just my belief, every politician feels this way. He has no filter and no self control.

The biggest problem I have with him, even above all that other stuff, is that he comes off to me as a guy that just wants to be able to say he became president. It feels to me like he just wants it as a feather in his cap.

I know he's popular because of his authenticity platform. But it's just not that authentic to me.



Well said.

I honestly think it's gonna be a frikken blowout. I don't think Trump stands a chance, rigged or not it's tough to go against the status quo and that's what Hilary is at the end of the day.

LWK
10-25-2016, 11:17 PM
Trump has what I like to call 'new york mouth-itis'

I wonder if Trump will sweep it. Realize those rally's of his have a crazy turn out. At least it looks and sounds that way. I honestly don't trust shit I see in the media with its 'think our way or you're stupid or racist' mentality. People are sick of being labeled.

Taiso
10-25-2016, 11:19 PM
I think it was The Amazing Atheist who said in a recent video:

"Hillary is so evil it's stupid and Trump is so stupid it's evil."

Hyperbole, to be sure, but it's not entirely untrue.

Hillary has a history of doing shit I find unconscionable so I could never cast my vote for her.

Trump is just a buffoon to me so I could never vote for him.

Jill Stein and Gary Johnson are not desirable.

Bernie Sanders is the only guy I even marginally liked in any of this as far as 'serious' candidates and while I support SOME socialized programs, he takes it way too far in many cases for my tastes. He comes off as the most sincere of any of them, but I just disagree with his political views on a number of things.

So likely not to vote for a POTUS this year.

LWK
10-25-2016, 11:25 PM
Vote Trump! I mean at worst you get a presidency filled with hella hilarious sound bytes and other nonsense. Hillary is boring.

Chempop
10-26-2016, 12:13 AM
I kinda want Trump to win because him becoming prez will hurt his supporters the most.

GregN
10-26-2016, 12:18 AM
Most of the GOP are old white rich guys who have only had 1-2 jobs in their life, no mental problems and haven't, as my uncle would say "tasted the shit of life."

LWK
10-26-2016, 12:32 AM
Nice video, glad you like. Here's the rest of it...



Was this a public domain release, or someone just stole the entire thing and upped it?

I edited my original post. I don't typically like being involved on any level with uploading paid content exceeding the 30 second limit, so my apologies to all. =/

ki_atsushi
10-26-2016, 12:52 AM
I think it was The Amazing Atheist who said in a recent video:

"Hillary is so evil it's stupid and Trump is so stupid it's evil."

Hyperbole, to be sure, but it's not entirely untrue.

Hillary has a history of doing shit I find unconscionable so I could never cast my vote for her.

Trump is just a buffoon to me so I could never vote for him.

Jill Stein and Gary Johnson are not desirable.

Bernie Sanders is the only guy I even marginally liked in any of this as far as 'serious' candidates and while I support SOME socialized programs, he takes it way too far in many cases for my tastes. He comes off as the most sincere of any of them, but I just disagree with his political views on a number of things.

So likely not to vote for a POTUS this year.

Very well said. As much as I hate socialism, I would have voted for Sanders because at least he seems honest and we know where he stands on the issues. Trump is an unknown, and Hillary is downright evil. I would have voted for Bernie.

As it stands, I can stomach Trump more than Hillary so I'm voting for him.

wyo
10-26-2016, 12:55 AM
Was this a public domain release, or someone just stole the entire thing and upped it?

I edited my original post. I don't typically like being involved on any level with uploading paid content exceeding the 30 second limit, so my apologies to all. =/

The video you originally posted was cynically edited to make it look like Michael Moore supports Donald Trump when, in fact, he most definitely does not. The Youtube comment section is full of Trump retards who believe the same thing, so don't feel bad.

"Congratulations Moore, you just got some respect back from me."

"So much truth, Thank you Michael Moore! GO #TRUMP"

"Moore woke up. Good. Now the rest of the nation or world needs to wake up. Moore at one time was so far on the left wing I thought he would fall off. Glad to see some common sense kicked in."

"WOW!! I disagree with Michael Moore for my whole entire life until now!!"

A veritable basket of the deplorably stupid. It'd be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

tacoguy
10-26-2016, 12:57 AM
Going with Stein this year since I like most of her platform and she has been focusing on a lot of the major issues in this country. The other two major party candidates are a joke and I can't bring myself to vote for either one of them.

tacoguy
10-26-2016, 01:00 AM
The video you originally posted was cynically edited to make it look like Michael Moore supports Donald Trump when, in fact, he most definitely does not. The Youtube comment section is full of Trump retards who believe the same thing, so don't feel bad.

"Congratulations Moore, you just got some respect back from me."

"So much truth, Thank you Michael Moore! GO #TRUMP"

"Moore woke up. Good. Now the rest of the nation or world needs to wake up. Moore at one time was so far on the left wing I thought he would fall off. Glad to see some common sense kicked in."

"WOW!! I disagree with Michael Moore for my whole entire life until now!!"

A veritable basket of the deplorably stupid. It'd be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

I just saw that video on my facebook wall, holy crap it does look like he supported trump.

LWK
10-26-2016, 01:30 AM
I think he might secretly like Trump. He'll prop up Hillary, but he might have that bite in his gut that just wants to see Trump win.

Another thing to. Michael Moore and that clip... Maybe it was his way of supporting Trump while not officially doing it, but I'm reaching a lot on that idea.. He's also from Flint Michigan. He even called for Obama to do something about it. Haha, hmmm... I wonder if he does like Trump secretly, but like many people who do, they'll vote but not share it for fear of being labeled, or just being called a moron... All fair game.
Trump speaks to what Moore is all about, fighting elitist power structure right?
Moore had legit excitement when he said that 'fuck you' line. Was he just reading someone elses writing there? Hell of a lot of enthusiasm for as someone extremely left as Moore..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szbQF6-tBJg

SML
10-26-2016, 02:58 AM
I kinda want Trump to win because him becoming prez will hurt his supporters the most.

Everyone gets everything he wants. I wanted to Make America Great Again and, for my sins, I got to.

hyper
10-26-2016, 03:34 AM
I voted for your mom

neobuyer
10-26-2016, 06:06 AM
The 'Amazing Atheist' is an excreble moron with the World's worst and ugliest stripes. I could say much more- but I refuse to name-drop or pander, as much as I might want to. Just trust me on this one boys- he a tool of the highest order.

Taiso
10-26-2016, 08:26 AM
The 'Amazing Atheist' is an excreble moron with the World's worst and ugliest stripes. I could say much more- but I refuse to name-drop or pander, as much as I might want to. Just trust me on this one boys- he a tool of the highest order.

Oh I don't disagree with any of this at all.

But I'm not the kind of person that automatically disregards what's being said just because of who says it.

Regardless of what I thought of him, the quote rang true with me. But I don't always agree with him or ANY Youtube pundit. But I watch a lot of them, from numerous spectrums, in order to get a broad cross section of opinions.

SML
10-26-2016, 08:49 AM
I try to do the same thing, though I don't go in for A/V punditry at all. It's just too grating. Watching the debates was an ordeal.

I don't think the spectrum I end up visiting is really balanced, but it's what works for me: a couple of liberal blogs, The Intercept, and (lurking for 8 years now) the Sean Hannity forums. I had a subscription to The American Conservative for a while there as well.

Hannity forums aren't really doing the job much these days. A lot of the conservative regulars have abandoned the site, I think due to an unwillingness to defend Trump/frustration that the majority of the forum seems anti-Trump.

Takumaji
10-26-2016, 10:42 AM
I think he might secretly like Trump. He'll prop up Hillary, but he might have that bite in his gut that just wants to see Trump win.

I guess many people want to, no matter whether they actually support him or not, just to see what happens. That's a big prize to pay for some lulz, though.

SML
10-26-2016, 10:51 AM
Michael Moore's career would be set for the next four years, at least, with a Trump win, just like right-wing pundits have done pretty well for themselves under Obama.

He doesn't have anything to lose by taking this position. If Trump wins, he was right when most people were wrong. If Trump loses, he did his part to motivate Democrats to get to their polling places.



1989: Roger and Me - $6.7 million

1995: Canadian Bacon - $163k

1998: The Big One - $720k

2002: Bowling for Columbine - $21 million

2004: Fahrenheit 9/11 - $119 million

2007: Sicko - $24 million

2009: Capitalism: A Love Story - $14 million

2016: Where to Invade Next - $3.8 million

2016: Michael Moore in Trumpland -$64k (1 week gross.)


George W Bush was the best thing that ever happened to Michael Moore.

uiengineer
10-26-2016, 10:58 AM
Im so disgusted I didnt bother to register since moving back here and this shithole of a choice being my options.

same here. not registered. didn't want to register for this shit show.

Caliburn89
10-26-2016, 11:49 AM
i voted for Trump, in spirit.

norton9478
10-26-2016, 12:32 PM
His heart is in it. He campaigns non stop, stuck his own money in. He's risked his entire brand to just voice his views, which has hurt him clearly.

I would't confuse someone's money with someone's heart.

Just a big investment or a narcisistic superfluous expenditure.

Of course, since he has won the nomination he has turned to donors. And since he turned to donors, his businesses have jacked the campaign in ways no other candidate has in the modern era.

M
10-26-2016, 12:49 PM
I'm not voting until the actual election day (the 8th). At the moment, I'm leaning towards Jill Stein, but I haven't decided for sure yet and still need to do some more research on the candidates' positions. Short of any amazing revelations/happenings between now and then, I'm definitely not voting Trump.

LWK
10-26-2016, 02:41 PM
I would't confuse someone's money with someone's heart.

Just a big investment or a narcisistic superfluous expenditure.

Of course, since he has won the nomination he has turned to donors. And since he turned to donors, his businesses have jacked the campaign in ways no other candidate has in the modern era.

Hillary = Goldman Sachs, George Soros.
Thing is, it doesn't matter about Trump. She's owned by corporate interests. The average person thinks he's a guy who owns himself because he's so rich and he does his own thing. People who are poor see James Comey stand there and say if anyone did what she did they'd be in trouble, then says no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. It is now clear that Obama knew about the server to, so if she goes down, so does he. Wikileaks has shown Hillary for who she is. Middle class and poor people are pissed, and you may see their feelings on november 8th.

norton9478
10-26-2016, 04:54 PM
Speaking of banking and corporate interests.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/06/business/economy/donald-trump-economic-team.html?_r=0

LWK
10-26-2016, 06:35 PM
Speaking of banking and corporate interests.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/06/business/economy/donald-trump-economic-team.html?_r=0


Any opinions on Hillary or the emails and extremely back stabby nature of her campaign? I mean, you say you're voting for Jill Stein, but who is she more for, Trump or Hillary? Doesn't a Jill vote relegate you to a Trump vote that'd destroy america? She is the Hillary vote spoil, is she not? She has no chance of winning. My point is valid. The average Trump voter likes Trump as a cult of personality also. It doesn't matter how much shit he throws. People trust her way less. The more the media fights him, the more people want him in. This is class warfare. Even if she is the better choice, to those people it doesn't matter and never will, because to many people, this entire election is about kicking the establishment politicians square in the dick.

Wikileaks aids the conspiracy mindset with REAL leaked information of what these fake ass people are up to. It is a perfect catalyst for people who already hate the mentality of today, and the leftist reprogramming of the English language, because god forbid someone who can't handle their own feelings gets hurt. Why should anyone be responsible for how people take things? That is a persons own problem how they feel on reaction. The USA can't keep being a pussified nation forever. California is pussy town USA. Don't let your states be like mine.

Hillary is shockingly 'not' transparent. She wants to be our fucking president and hides her back door dealings because she KNOWS it contradicts her fake ass story that she gives a damn about any of us.

Fuck NYT

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norton9478
10-26-2016, 06:47 PM
Use a different browser regarding NYT.

I live in NY, I get to vote my conscience. Hilary did two things that made it so I can't vote for her.
If Hilary was a Baseball player, her WAR (wins above replacement) would be between -1 and 1.

Trump is a nightmare and can't compare. Sure he is "right" about bad trade deals. But as far as progressive ideals go, that is just about it. Everything else Trump says and does is anti-thesis to progressive ideals expressed by Sanders.

Do I trust Clinton? Nope. She pretty much sees which way the wind is blowing and goes with it.

LWK
10-26-2016, 07:01 PM
I voted for Sanders based on his character more then his politics. I don't know if I did myself well there. I'm not 100% in the tank for him either. His views on whites not knowing what being poor is like is a bunch of bullshit.

The_Chosen_One
10-26-2016, 07:40 PM
This is class warfare.



Ive heard this quite a few times, and while it may be correct I still don't understand how voting a billionaire who has never understood poor or middle class struggles as their champion makes sense. Trump knows which side his bread is buttered on just like Hilary, but people think he's SO rich he won't take that money (Wall Street, big corps etc), just bullshit in my opinion. If he was as intelligent as Hillary and given the same opportunities I don't think he'd be any less corrupt.

Fortunately he's not bright, and if he does win the election we can be fairly sure he won't be anywhere near Hilary corruption levels for that reason alone.

norton9478
10-26-2016, 07:46 PM
The trumps have already said that they will eschew a blind trust.

LWK
10-26-2016, 08:49 PM
Ive heard this quite a few times, and while it may be correct I still don't understand how voting a billionaire who has never understood poor or middle class struggles as their champion makes sense. Trump knows which side his bread is buttered on just like Hilary, but people think he's SO rich he won't take that money (Wall Street, big corps etc), just bullshit in my opinion. If he was as intelligent as Hillary and given the same opportunities I don't think he'd be any less corrupt.

Fortunately he's not bright, and if he does win the election we can be fairly sure he won't be anywhere near Hilary corruption levels for that reason alone.

He's a poor man's billionaire because the wealthy class hates him. <haha

Trump supporters see him as a insider. It is what fuels his interest. He's rich as hell, but he's willing to risk everything for his goal. Hillary could never seem as real as he is. Even if he lies through his teeth, it doesn't matter. People like his 'fuck off' attitude. This is also coming after 8 years of Obama. The dude just keeps going. I don't want Hillary in because she's to smart with how she hides her back door dealings. Trump is more to the point and less intelligent then she is. I can't trust anything that happens with a conspiracy style concern that her buddies and all these tentacles that happen with her back door shit.. I've abandoned my Californian liberal pussy mindset. EVERY time the media says something bad about him, it brings out that feeling for his supporters. Trump is seen as the insider to the inner workings of the very rich, as fighting for the middle class. Hillary is seen as the rich upper class 'better then you and we know it' type of politician. This is just how it is seen, agree or disagree, totally understand.

On a unrelated to the issues level I always would rather see Melania Trump as first lady, then Bill Clinton who wears his dick on his forehead.

GregN
10-26-2016, 08:55 PM
Trump is a loose cannon and the Repubs are scared of him getting in.

LWK
10-26-2016, 09:07 PM
Republicans are scared to align themselves because many are career politicians and pussies, and it will turn their fake religious and political views on their ass, meaning no more fun money for pandering. These people they typically sell their nonsense to are on the Trump train now anyways. The fact the Bush's are behind Hillary is a smoking gun to vote Trump. James fucking Comey said in his video that if anyone else do what she did, there would be consequences. This means she is above the law.

The republicans distancing themselves is a career and financial move. It makes sense, he's saying stuff that is why unexpected from a mainline politician. BTW guys. I clocked Trump as my choice on the poll, but I'm voting the 8th.

norton9478
10-26-2016, 09:44 PM
Other than Trump's views on trade, does he have any ideas or policies that are different than republican orthodoxy?

I guess you could try to say that he he differs with republicans in theory on military interventionism. But I would even disagree with that.

Xavier
10-26-2016, 10:05 PM
LWK Donald Trump has never fixed anything in his life. I doubt he's ever even laid one brick in any of the buildings he's had built or remodeled.

He's a master manipulator. He gets banks, sells bonds offers IPOs (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/donald-trump-was-a-stock-market-disaster-2015-07-22) Then he has other contractors do the work for him (often stiffing them). After the deal goes south (and his stuff usually ends in failure) he defaults on the loans or goes bankrupt. Keeps what he has ...washes rinses and starts all over again.

So think about this (and I'm going back to his free pass/grading on a curve theme from the other thread.) In the late 80's to mid 90's he had a net worth of -NEGATIVE One Billion.
That means if he was able to sell off everything he owned for top dollar he would still owe a billion dollars.

During this whole time he largely (http://i.imgur.com/rceCv26.png) got to live the same exact life style he was always accustomed to. Think he sold his princess yacht but otherwise he still kept some planes from his failed airline, cruised in his helicopters, lived in the Trump penthouse. People worship him for his business savy but in reality a homeless person with a stash of some cans and other misc assets has a net worth of say $150 was really richer than Trump. By multitudes of 100's of thousands of times.

https://theintercept.com/2016/10/13/donald-trump-finds-an-easy-mark-in-urine-mogul-robert-mercer/

LWK
10-26-2016, 10:38 PM
LWK Donald Trump has never fixed anything in his life. I doubt he's ever even laid one brick in any of the buildings he's had built or remodeled.

He's a master manipulator. He gets banks, sells bonds offers IPOs (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/donald-trump-was-a-stock-market-disaster-2015-07-22) Then he has other contractors do the work for him (often stiffing them). After the deal goes south (and his stuff usually ends in failure) he defaults on the loans or goes bankrupt. Keeps what he has ...washes rinses and starts all over again.

So think about this (and I'm going back to his free pass/grading on a curve theme from the other thread.) In the late 80's to mid 90's he had a net worth of -NEGATIVE One Billion.
That means if he was able to sell off everything he owned for top dollar he would still owe a billion dollars.

During this whole time he largely (http://i.imgur.com/rceCv26.png) got to live the same exact life style he was always accustomed to. Think he sold his princess yacht but otherwise he still kept some planes from his failed airline, cruised in his helicopters, lived in the Trump penthouse. People worship him for his business savy but in reality a homeless person with a stash of some cans and other misc assets has a net worth of say $150 was really richer than Trump. By multitudes of 100's of thousands of times.

https://theintercept.com/2016/10/13/donald-trump-finds-an-easy-mark-in-urine-mogul-robert-mercer/

Completely awesome, buuuuuut he's not Hillary.

Takumaji
10-27-2016, 01:27 AM
For those who still don't know who to vote for, maybe this hilarious app could be of some help:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQmdD-SCrRw

Create your very own election soundtrack with the top candidates! :D

SouthtownKid
10-27-2016, 01:46 AM
and trying to turn Texas blue

I didn't realize you'd been appointed to the Electoral College. Congratulations!

Neo Ash
10-27-2016, 07:15 AM
Do you guys need to even ask who I'm voting for? :keke:

Naika
10-27-2016, 09:01 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8AK6FOz99E

SML
10-27-2016, 10:27 AM
I didn't realize you'd been appointed to the Electoral College. Congratulations!

I don't understand what this means. Is it something about voting in general? Skepticism that Texas would actually flip this year? ("The numbers" suggest that the odds of Texas going for Clinton and Trump winning the presidency are both around 15% right now.)

Wes, you've befuddled and agitated me and I've already spent my "fuck you" for the month. I'm at your mercy.

LWK
10-27-2016, 03:36 PM
What is the rate to buy a fresh 'fuck you' when you go over the spending limit?

SML
10-27-2016, 03:40 PM
40132

I don't want to talk about it.

SouthtownKid
10-27-2016, 07:55 PM
I don't understand what this means. Is it something about voting in general? Skepticism that Texas would actually flip this year? ("The numbers" suggest that the odds of Texas going for Clinton and Trump winning the presidency are both around 15% right now.)

Wes, you've befuddled and agitated me and I've already spent my "fuck you" for the month. I'm at your mercy.You only get one a month? That is horrifying.

Lagduf
10-29-2016, 12:51 AM
I'm voting to legalize marijuana statewide and in my county fix the offramp from I-80 to US-65. Voting against Kamala Harris for Senate and I can't remember what else.

Probably throw a vote to Johnson.

ki_atsushi
10-29-2016, 01:21 AM
I'm voting to legalize marijuana statewide and in my county fix the offramp from I-80 to US-65. Voting against Kamala Harris for Senate and I can't remember what else.

Probably throw a vote to Johnson.

I like how there's only 2 democrats on the ballot for senate, and not even a fucking write-in spot. What a great choice we have. :oh_no:

I'm leaving that shit blank.

SML
11-06-2016, 06:46 AM
Post early voting bump.

Lagduf
11-07-2016, 10:15 AM
In CA I'm also voting against the proposition that would require condoms to be used in pornography.

Sometimes I hate the proposition system.

munchiaz
11-07-2016, 11:20 AM
I'll be voting for Hillary. Not that the presidential vote really matters due to electoral shit. I'm more concerned about my local voting. Like AZ prop 205 to decriminalize weed, and prop 206 to raise minimum wage to $12 by 2020

M
11-08-2016, 09:53 AM
I spent about an hour-and-a-half going through and comparing various candidates' positions in the League of Women Voters newspaper guide (they're a non-partisan group that doesn't advocate or oppose any candidate) before heading off to the polls this morning at 8 AM. I live in a small town (population ~4,000) so I didn't have to wait in line at all, which was nice. For president, I went with Gary Johnson. I was leaning towards Jill Stein for a while, but, while she has some good ideas/positions, I don't feel that she could realistically get them funded/implemented. For the other races (state representative, etc.), I mostly voted Republican and Libertarian candidates, but went with a few Democrat and Green ones too--whomever I felt was the best fit and/or least likely to create problems. For many of the local offices (mine inspector, stuff like that), there was only one person running for them, so those were easy decisions in that there were no other choices. There were also no local, or state, ballot proposals, this time around either.

Just out of curiosity, how much were you pestered, via snail mail, to vote this election season? Some progressive group was really on my ass--they even sent me a letter the other day with my voting history from 2008 till now, which I felt was kind of obnoxious (while I have voted regularly during the last three years, I was letting it slide before that). Yeah, it's public information, but I found it kind of insulting that they were compiling that and sending it to me to try to get me to vote (which I was going to do anyway).

SML
11-08-2016, 10:02 AM
ELECTION DAY BUMP, BITCHES.

This is your last chance to register to take the blame after your chosen candidate ushers in the great darkness.

Edit: Hey, M. I didn't get anybody knocking on my door or sending anything to my mailbox this time around. I did get a forward from my old address encouraging me to vote republican up and down the ticket in Harris county. That's what I get for ever donating to a campaign.

GohanX
11-08-2016, 10:06 AM
I had something related to the election in my mailbox almost every day for the past few weeks but it's actually been much less than in past elections. Same with random phone calls, there were a few, but not as many as normal.

hyper
11-08-2016, 10:24 AM
wrote in lady gaga

https://youtu.be/F1-1QWCOGkI
F1-1QWCOGkI

SML
11-09-2016, 02:57 AM
Four general elections and I ain't backed a winner yet!

Don't blame me!

BIG BEAR
11-09-2016, 03:04 AM
There are reports that Canada's immigration website is being overwhelmed.... What ? No love for Mexico? Dare I state that that is being racist? You see how that sh8t works both ways.....?
BB

SouthtownKid
11-09-2016, 03:23 AM
There are reports that Canada's immigration website is being overwhelmed.... What ? No love for Mexico? Dare I state that that is being racist? You see how that sh8t works both ways.....?
BBNot quite sure what you meant to express there, but LOCK THE BARN, BB!!! :eye::eye:

they are coming for your barn

FilthyRear
11-09-2016, 05:20 AM
Steve Rogers and James Barnes

GohanX
11-09-2016, 11:27 AM
Steve Rogers and James Barnes



I'd vote for that ticket.

FilthyRear
11-09-2016, 11:33 AM
40452

GohanX
11-09-2016, 11:41 AM
No worse than Hillary.

Tripredacus
11-09-2016, 11:47 AM
It turns out there were only 3 local contests that were gerrymandered into just one choice this year. And amazingly, the local TV reported those uncontested results, showing 1-2% people actually picked something in the column with only 1 option. Actually it was more like 3-4 options for the same person.

neo_moe
11-09-2016, 11:50 AM
I wrote in Putin...but I really meant to write in Poutine.

What? I was hungry...

uiengineer
11-09-2016, 12:09 PM
i voted for Harambe.

Lagduf
11-09-2016, 12:56 PM
In CA I'm dissapointed we didn't repeal the death penalty but did vote in more gun control. The idea that state should have a monopoly on the use of deadly force is irritating.

norton9478
11-09-2016, 01:01 PM
In CA I'm dissapointed we didn't repeal the death penalty but did vote in more gun control. The idea that state should have a monopoly on the use of deadly force is irritating.

Private prison stocks are booming today.

Famicommander
11-09-2016, 01:04 PM
231,556,622 eligible voters

46.9% didn't vote
25.6% voted for Clinton
25.5% voted for Trump
1.7% voted for Johnson

yay not voting

hopefully even fewer vote next time

Lagduf
11-09-2016, 01:24 PM
Private prison stocks are booming today.

LOL

:(

hyper
11-10-2016, 11:14 PM
ayyyyye

https://youtu.be/eOCcRnvMPEU
eOCcRnvMPEU

https://youtu.be/MkPsMlNqpJ8
MkPsMlNqpJ8

https://youtu.be/TZ-FUptkUNY
TZ-FUptkUNY

:lolz::lolz::lolz::lolz::lolz::lolz:

norton9478
11-10-2016, 11:27 PM
Ending private federal prisons is the #1 reason I voted for Clinton.
almost worth overlooking her stance on the death penalty.

hyper
11-10-2016, 11:31 PM
did u know that the feds have HALTED the criminal investigation into her fake charity they laundered bribe $$$ with?

jk they didn't :keke:

wyo
11-11-2016, 12:01 AM
"View Poll Results: Pull the Trigger"

^That's the spirit!

oliverclaude
11-11-2016, 03:01 AM
"View Poll Results: Pull the Trigger"

Cool, seems Shroom has a Green Card.

Lagduf
11-13-2016, 11:23 PM
Ending private federal prisons is the #1 reason I voted for Clinton.
almost worth overlooking her stance on the death penalty.

Would she have closed them?

Remember when Obama said Guantanamo would no longer be a prison?

norton9478
11-14-2016, 02:56 PM
Would she have closed them?

Worth a shot.