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Rot
11-24-2016, 11:23 AM
This one is the SD card I use:
https://flashmemo-business.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/4/9/498FD71195BDB1807C9F2B1F7E29FF1B.jpg

PS: Post #1000 in this thread! :qcf::A: :glee:

Man... if this thread comes down to which MicroSD is the BESTEST... i am so gonna get peev'ed...

xROTX

PS. Great Pics.. Thank You...

EDIT... mmhh... 1000th post eh.... I can rectify that now:D Muhahahahahahhahahahaha!

neosd
11-24-2016, 11:35 AM
This one is the SD card I use:
https://flashmemo-business.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/4/9/498FD71195BDB1807C9F2B1F7E29FF1B.jpg

PS: Post #1000 in this thread! :qcf::A: :glee:

Hello,

This is the same sd card we bought (our was 16gbs), 7 euros on mediamarkt.es.
We bought some cheap models to try speeds on regular ones and this was the faster we found, sandisk was the worst.

Also, glad you like NeoSD MVS

Thanks for your purchase

Neodogg
11-24-2016, 10:09 PM
I wonder if there would be a way to program a counter to see how many times the memory has been erased/written. Like...206/100,000 to given a sense of life left?

Slangeug
11-25-2016, 02:53 AM
First off, I sincerely apologize if this has been answered already. I skimmed through the entire thread and didn't see a specific answer to my question. I would PM the developer but since I am new here I do not have the ability... I am very I interested in purchasing a NEOSD. However, I would like to be sure that it is compatible with a consolized MVS running on Unibios (such as the Omega that is sold on arcadeworks.net). I saw someone posted a pic of the NeoSD in their consolized MVS (again, as a brand nubian I can't view the pic) and that's the closest answer I've found. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much.

Rot
11-25-2016, 02:55 AM
First off, I sincerely apologize if this has been answered already. I skimmed through the entire thread and didn't see a specific answer to my question. I would PM the developer but since I am new here I do not have the ability... I am very I interested in purchasing a NEOSD. However, I would like to be sure that it is compatible with a consolized MVS running on Unibios (such as the Omega that is sold on arcadeworks.net). I saw someone posted a pic of the NeoSD in their consolized MVS (again, as a brand nubian I can't view the pic) and that's the closest answer I've found. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much.

The short answer is yes...

xROTx

neosd
11-25-2016, 03:12 AM
The short answer is yes...

xROTx

Hello,

Rot is right, NeoSD will work on a consolized MVS. It woks with unibios aswel.

Thanks

MattBlah
11-25-2016, 04:31 AM
Next time use DHL or TNT, this courier is slooooooooow :)

Good to see some people's are arriving. Not long now and we'll all have them in our MVS'.

neosd
11-25-2016, 04:36 AM
Next time use DHL or TNT, this courier is slooooooooow :)

Good to see some people's are arriving. Not long now and we'll all have them in our MVS'.

Hello,

We are working with UPS to sign a contract right now, our plan is to offer two options, a cheap one (correos) and a faster one (ups).
We wanted to offer a cheap shipment to keep price adjusted as much as possible for the first sales batch.
Correos promissed us 5 days delivery in Europe, so is still too early to know if its slow or not, cause we finished sending the items last tuesday, this is 3 days ago, so correos is still on time.

Thanks

MattBlah
11-25-2016, 04:56 AM
Hello,

We are working with UPS to sign a contract right now, our plan is to offer two options, a cheap one (correos) and a faster one (ups).
We wanted to offer a cheap shipment to keep price adjusted as much as possible for the first sales batch.
Correos promissed us 5 days delivery in Europe, so is still too early to know if its slow or not, cause we finished sending the items last tuesday, this is 3 days ago, so correos is still on time.

Thanks

Thanks for the reply. I was only half moaning, I know these things take time. I just really want to get my hands on this thing.

I'm sure a more expensive UPS option would be appreciated by future buyers though, I would have chosen it given the option.

greatfunky
11-25-2016, 06:09 AM
Hello,

We are working with UPS to sign a contract right now, our plan is to offer two options, a cheap one (correos) and a faster one (ups).
We wanted to offer a cheap shipment to keep price adjusted as much as possible for the first sales batch.
Correos promissed us 5 days delivery in Europe, so is still too early to know if its slow or not, cause we finished sending the items last tuesday, this is 3 days ago, so correos is still on time.

Thanks

I think correos missed their shot on that point , my item was accepted monday and still not in my country (France).....wait and see .:snack:

MattBlah
11-25-2016, 06:12 AM
They are on time.It has just arrived! :D

greatfunky
11-25-2016, 06:18 AM
They are on time.It has just arrived! :D
UK is farest from spain than france no ?!:drool::keke:

Sceptre_JLRB
11-25-2016, 06:27 AM
First off, I sincerely apologize if this has been answered already. I skimmed through the entire thread and didn't see a specific answer to my question. I would PM the developer but since I am new here I do not have the ability... I am very I interested in purchasing a NEOSD. However, I would like to be sure that it is compatible with a consolized MVS running on Unibios (such as the Omega that is sold on arcadeworks.net). I saw someone posted a pic of the NeoSD in their consolized MVS (again, as a brand nubian I can't view the pic) and that's the closest answer I've found. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much.

I confirm it as the pic's author: Yes, NeoSD works when using UniBIOS. (My case: Consolized MVS MV-1F, UniBIOS 3.2.)

MattBlah
11-25-2016, 06:32 AM
UK is farest from spain than france no ?!:drool::keke:

Maybe we just have a better postal system over here ;)

Razoola
11-25-2016, 06:43 AM
great... more picture posting please :)

Nostromo
11-25-2016, 06:53 AM
Still waiting for mine here (Malta).

Rot
11-25-2016, 06:54 AM
http://67.media.tumblr.com/66068a5d9a93358ac03c435ecf36b327/tumblr_mvpk1aurnt1sj04gto2_r1_500.gif

xROTx

MattBlah
11-25-2016, 07:07 AM
great... more picture posting please :)

I was too busy playing to get any good pictures on lunch. Mine seems to be working perfectly though. I had a good half hour play of Sengoku 3.

Razoola
11-25-2016, 07:19 AM
I'm looking forward to when GadgetUK gets his (maybe he gets it today also). He knows alot about the multicart bootlegs and I suspect he will throw a YouTube video together for the NeoSD too :)

Mikekim
11-25-2016, 07:36 AM
mine arrived this afternoon...

to answer the question re putting it into a shell, yes you have to trim some of the side to allow for the sd card.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/I1sZLW.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/921/q9LHE0.jpg

and a pic for rot as we all know he loves to be kept informed the times for erasing a game and flashing with kof2003...

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/d11EFW.jpg

Sandisk Extreme PLUS FTW...

Razoola
11-25-2016, 07:42 AM
I think that kof2003 time is the quickest reported so far, its about 40 seconds quicker than the time I got.

Nostromo
11-25-2016, 07:44 AM
mikekim: can you post a picture of the sd card please?

Rot
11-25-2016, 07:49 AM
mikekim: can you post a picture of the sd card please?

http://memecrunch.com/meme/1DYYG/its-top-secret/image.jpg

xROTx

Mikekim
11-25-2016, 07:50 AM
big thumbs up to neosd and his crew..

this product is everything he said it would be...

If anyone hasn't got one yet.. what are you waiting for??.. you wont regret it..

card pic..

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/921/Bn5PUB.jpg

Link (https://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-Extreme-microSDHC-Memory-Adapter/dp/B01HU3Q792/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1480081950&sr=8-9&keywords=sandisk+extreme+plus)

Rot
11-25-2016, 07:53 AM
I am gonna facepalm a lot over the next few days...

I can feel it in my bladder...

xROTx

PS. OK OK... I'll bite... record your KoF 03 load times... FFS... if you can't beat 'em... join them...

Nostromo
11-25-2016, 08:04 AM
So in theory.... if new SD Cards coming out are faster and faster... there is no bottleneck on the NeoSDs side?

Edit: how much time does it take to erase whatever is already flashed in memory?

Mikekim
11-25-2016, 08:21 AM
So in theory.... if new SD Cards coming out are faster and faster... there is no bottleneck on the NeoSDs side?

Edit: how much time does it take to erase whatever is already flashed in memory?

around 24-30 seconds when flashing kof2003.

have tried with games of various sizes and its around the same ballpark, however flashing smaller games (ie puzzle bobble) the erase time is quicker (5 seconds) 29 seconds total..

Sceptre_JLRB
11-25-2016, 08:27 AM
big thumbs up to neosd and his crew..

this product is everything he said it would be...

If anyone hasn't got one yet.. what are you waiting for??.. you wont regret it..

card pic..

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/921/Bn5PUB.jpg

Link (https://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-Extreme-microSDHC-Memory-Adapter/dp/B01HU3Q792/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1480081950&sr=8-9&keywords=sandisk+extreme+plus)

This is a V30-certificated SD card. It seems to really make the difference...
Mine was just U3 and the one neosd was previously referring to was U1, I think. (Based on those I saw at MediaMarkt-Spain store.)

It is clear that as SD cards will get faster, NeoSD loading times will be decreased. It is at your personal speed/price ratio election. Maybe the bottleneck here is the NeoSD Flash memory speed specification.

At the end of the day, nothing to worry about. I don't care that much concerning NeoSD loading times, they are completely bearable, mainly considering flashed games are exact copies from their original counterparts. :-)

fille1976
11-25-2016, 10:07 AM
mine arrived,but wasnt at home,whas at work,get a notice in the postal box,so tomorrow i get my neosd,godthank they are open at saturday.

nio
11-25-2016, 11:03 AM
Mine arrived!!!!

and I just ordered an 16GB V30 card, thanks a lot for that hint!

greatfunky
11-25-2016, 11:41 AM
To the mvs converters owners : don't forget to report here the result !

fille1976
11-25-2016, 12:12 PM
tomorrow i have my neosd,and i have an neo mvs magic converter II(green),so will post pictures and info if it works on my aes.

Razoola
11-25-2016, 12:15 PM
Just remember that you might have to hold its button in to get into the UI or constantly during flashing

fille1976
11-25-2016, 12:20 PM
i dont have to do that with mine,i have a 161 in 1 cart,maybe with neosd,i dont know.
but will report tomorrow.
maybe if there are problems,they can be solved with an update?
i build in a switch to put unibios off because in my neo geo is also a unibios.

greatfunky
11-25-2016, 12:35 PM
You probably will have to turn off Save/Restore back ram in option menu too.

fille1976
11-25-2016, 12:56 PM
its possible,but just readed that the button have to be pressed with 161 in 1.
but it works fine here without push the button,maybe it have todo with unibios.
i just start my aes up and come in the menu,then i choose a game and it boots without push a button on the converter.
http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-249863.html

Razoola
11-25-2016, 01:09 PM
The button press on the magickey has nothing to do with unibios one the converter really, its more to do with the way the converter works and what lines it allows to travel to the cart plugged into the converter.

fille1976
11-25-2016, 01:18 PM
before i modded the converter i hat to push the button,now i dont have todo it anymore.
as long it works and does not damage to neo geo or converter,im happy i dont have to push that stupid button.
but for neosd it could be a different story,i will know tomorrow.
but it works fine with the 161 in 1

TMOSteel
11-25-2016, 07:18 PM
So in theory.... if new SD Cards coming out are faster and faster... there is no bottleneck on the NeoSDs side?


I do not believe this is accurate: what is read from the SD card still has to be written to the flash memory on the NeoSD at least once, so even if you had the fastest SD card in the world, that initial writing will be the final limiting factor.



It is clear that as SD cards will get faster, NeoSD loading times will be decreased. It is at your personal speed/price ratio election. Maybe the bottleneck here is the NeoSD Flash memory speed specification.

Faster to a point, yes, but again the hardware specifications of the NeoSD card itself will always be a factor, agreed.

I am by no means an expert on this, my specialty is PC hardware, but quit honestly I think these load times are acceptable.

I look forward to having enough $$$ after the holidays to pick one up.

Sceptre_JLRB
11-25-2016, 07:34 PM
I do not beleive this is accurate: what is read from the SD card still has to be written to the flash memory on the NeoSD at least once, so even if you had the fastest SD card in the world, that intial writing will be the final limiting factor.



Faster to a point, yes, but again the hardware specifications of the NeoSD card itslef will always be a factor, agreed.

I am by no means an expert on this, my specialty is PC hardware, but quit honestly I think these load times are acceptable.

I look forward to having enough $$$ after the holidays to pick one up.

I totally agree. When one gets the awesomeness of the NeoSD, he becomes so fulfilled with excitement than any loading time at game swapping is regarded as totally trivial. :D
In fact, I'd say loading times for Super Street Fighter II on EverDrive v3 for Sega Genesis are bigger than those of our beloved KOF2003 on NeoSD.

poodude
11-25-2016, 10:20 PM
:tickled:UHD 1 U3(30mb/s) class 10 cards are about as fast as they're going to get. If you want any faster you'll need to buy a UHD2 micro SD which is not compatible with this device. I've read many benchmark tests on the fastest sequential read speeds, and the fastest 16gb one they tested was the SanDisk extreme pro. I will report back with the timing on that one when my neosd arrives.

poodude
11-25-2016, 10:51 PM
I posted a list of sdcard benchmarks in the tech forum.

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?269010-NEOSD-MVS-Support-thread-!&p=4141287&viewfull=1#post4141287

greatfunky
11-26-2016, 03:36 AM
My Neosd arrived finally this morning ! :D

I was looking forward to try directly that baby on my mvs converter (this is the last green version modded with a switch to disable the bios and painted in black )

With empty flash : all i get is a blue screen ,
so i put the neosd in a arcade cabinet and worked as expected :buttrock:.

I flash art of fighting and try again the mvs converter :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tKMWlLqNqU&feature=youtu.be


The game work fine with converter unibios disabled (not enabled) but as you can see , when you try to return into neosd menu , everything is a graphic mess , wich is understandable:
the menu is not designed for AES hardware .

The neosd is partly working with mvs converters!

Razoola
11-26-2016, 03:41 AM
Ok so what your saying is it will play a game providing the NeoSD is pre flashed but you cannot flash a new game via the converter.

greatfunky
11-26-2016, 03:45 AM
Yes absolutly , you have to flash the game on a mvs slot then you can use it on the converter just like an original cart.

Rot
11-26-2016, 03:46 AM
I like your jeans Greakspunky...

xROTx

PS. Thank you for the video...

EDIT: Over the next coming weeks... it would be nice to get a full range of cool videos in...

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/62/628b747f8ccdfb757062f36a27eedecfc2295f515c0586e05f bfb0620c0571a2.jpg

fille1976
11-26-2016, 03:47 AM
for me it doesnt work.

http://i65.tinypic.com/2wdy42g.jpg

Razoola
11-26-2016, 03:47 AM
can you flash kof2003 and see if that game works with converter on aes? Intrested to see if the gfx are correct in fight sceene (transparent energy bars)

Rot
11-26-2016, 03:49 AM
for me it doesnt work.

Can you expand on that statement please...

xROTx

Razoola
11-26-2016, 03:50 AM
fille1976, whats that picture??? Also try keeping 1up start pressed while you boot, lets see if that will force you to the UI menu.

neosd
11-26-2016, 03:54 AM
for me it doesnt work.

http://i65.tinypic.com/2wdy42g.jpg

Hello,

You are having a bad contact there, unplug it and plug it until it plugs ok

Thanks

fille1976
11-26-2016, 03:59 AM
that whas a wrong picture,a7800

Razoola
11-26-2016, 03:59 AM
neosd, he is trying on an AES with converter.

neosd
11-26-2016, 04:03 AM
neosd, he is trying on an AES with converter.

Hello,

He could try to load a game even the menu has glitches on the AES with MVS converter.

Thanks

Razoola
11-26-2016, 04:04 AM
ok that picture makes sense.. Seems to me that when in the magickey converter the NeoSD has problems reading from the SDcard. are you sure your button mod is doing everything it should? try again but keeping the button (on converter) pressed in all the time until the menu is up.

fille1976
11-26-2016, 04:07 AM
gona try it,but now have white screen,its maybe contacts problem

Razoola
11-26-2016, 04:10 AM
getting a white screen if unibios means the bios does not see the game. If this happened after trying neosd's suggestion then its because the flash did not go correctly. Try holding in the start button during boot to get back to NeoSD ui.

greatfunky
11-26-2016, 04:13 AM
My arcade room is into an outbuilding so i'm coming and going sorry :

Just flashed KOF2003 basical version not aes all i get is a black screen.... maybe i should try aes version ?

fille1976
11-26-2016, 04:17 AM
doesnt work raz,get only white screen if power on aes with converter and neosd in it.
but its contacts,will try further
get back in the menu now,the rest the aes with start button pressed,goes to menu,doesnt even load
the pre loaded game

Rot
11-26-2016, 04:21 AM
This is making my Saturday morning go quicker... thanks lads:D

I appreciate the effort you're all putting in to see the limits of the MVS flash thingy..

BUT bear in mind... this was designed for MVS only guys:D

xROTx

fille1976
11-26-2016, 04:25 AM
gona desolder the mod to see that affects something.
desoldered the 2 wires,hold button on the converter,get in to the menu.
but same problem.

greatfunky
11-26-2016, 04:38 AM
BUT bear in mind... this was designed for MVS only guys:D

xROTx

I'm an MVS guy above all !!! ( who made the mistake to buy an AES for his TV :D )

Just tested Wakuwaku 7 : perfect ......

PS: I have different result than fille1976 maybe because my AES has a stock Euro bios

Razoola
11-26-2016, 05:06 AM
I cant remember if kof2003 has some AES protections but I wouls suggest using the AES version if trying on AES. You also needs to confirm the game is working on your MVS first too.

aku
11-26-2016, 05:21 AM
it would be a good information WHAT MVS to AES converter is used...

greatfunky uses a Super MVS Convertor II (latest version)?
fille1976 uses some modified version of WHAT?

greatfunky
11-26-2016, 05:30 AM
I think we are using exactly the same mvs converter version (the last one green) .

I tested KOF 2003 AES and i get also a black screen , then tested Samurai shodown V that is working ....i suppose the special should work too.

The difference between fille1976 and me is he get a better (less garbage) menu screen , but he couldn't play a game as i can , his console have a unibios , mine is stock .

PS: KOF 2003 once flashed in neosd work fine on my cab , and i have the original mvs cart that work fine also with my mvs converter

Razoola
11-26-2016, 05:32 AM
Does your AES have unibios? if not make sure the neosd system option is set to console when trying on AES. That may allow kof2003 to work.

X68
11-26-2016, 05:43 AM
Works fine for me in 1 slot :)
Nice toy thanks ;)

aku
11-26-2016, 05:49 AM
I think we are using exactly the same mvs converter version (the last one green) .



errr....but in the video, it looks very black with red/blue led?

Super MVS Convertor II (https://arcadeshock.com/collections/neo-geo/products/super-mvs-convertor-ii-mvs-aes-blue-led)
MVS MagicKey 2016 edition (http://www.neostore.com/MVS-MagicKey-MVS-to-AES-Neo-Geo-converter-p/1381.htm)

fille1976
11-26-2016, 05:49 AM
aku,is use neo mvs magic key
probable gona sell it,i cant use it this way,bad luck for me

greatfunky
11-26-2016, 05:56 AM
Does your AES have unibios? if not make sure the neosd system option is set to console when trying on AES. That may allow kof2003 to work.

My AES is stock , i just tried KOF2003 AES with system mode option turned to AES mode but still get a black screen with the converter.

aku : my converter is green , just painted in black ;)

fille1976
11-26-2016, 05:59 AM
i just started neo geo aes up without sdcard,it going to screen with bad graphics like i showed before.
with sdcard i get white screen.

greatfunky
11-26-2016, 05:59 AM
You don't have MVS slot at home for testing ?

Razoola
11-26-2016, 06:01 AM
I think this sorts of confirmes the NeoSD MVS does not work correctly on a magickey. There is still the daedalus converter though we need to hear about and I guess you cannot rule out a firmware update that might get the MVS NeoSD working via a magickey.

fille1976
11-26-2016, 06:04 AM
i realy hope so,if needed i can send it to them to test it.

Razoola
11-26-2016, 06:06 AM
i realy hope so,if needed i can send it to them to test it.

You should probably either get an MVS or sell the NeoSD quickly now and wait for the AES version.

fille1976
11-26-2016, 06:10 AM
i think i gona keep it,just get a mvs
i have 161 in 1,can play most games from that,and next year get me a mvs consolized,but i thought if 161 in 1 whas working,this baby also-
gona work,bad gamble.

greatfunky
11-26-2016, 06:10 AM
Honestly , i was expecting an issue like that with MVS converters , considering once Neosd flashed is like an original cart ; that could work , but a different story about the menu.

Neosd is developing now an AES version so maybe he could build in the future a kind of unified firmware working under AES and MVS ....

But for me that's not totally a miss , because i could play on my AES , just need to flash the cart on my cab before ....

lachlan
11-26-2016, 06:13 AM
i think i gona keep it,just get a mvs.

Probably the best thing you've said.

Razoola
11-26-2016, 06:17 AM
But for me that's not totally a miss , because i could play on my AES , just need to flash the cart on my cab before ....

Thats true although its strange why kof2003 does not work on the converter. Can you try SVC and Garou and see if either of those work trying on AES after flashing on MVS.

fille1976
11-26-2016, 06:24 AM
raz,a mv1b,is this a good mvs?
and the serial number,is it the white sticker on the neosd?

Mikekim
11-26-2016, 06:30 AM
raz,a mv1b,is this a good mvs?

its a good mvs, but the only issue is if you want to add a unibios its a pita, as the chip is soldered

fille1976
11-26-2016, 06:31 AM
i found on ebay 1 for 250e consolized with unibios 3.3
its easyer if the unibios is socketed

greatfunky
11-26-2016, 06:53 AM
Thats true although its strange why kof2003 does not work on the converter. Can you try SVC and Garou and see if either of those work trying on AES after flashing on MVS.

Garou AES is working fine , SVC : i get dark screen after neogeo jingle screen

Razoola
11-26-2016, 07:01 AM
Ok so both kof2003 and SVC have the same issue on AES via converter, that makes sence given both original games are very simular in how they work (kof2003 does not have a neogeo spinning logo). Might be fixable via firmware update although thats just a guess on my part.

greatfunky
11-26-2016, 07:16 AM
Ok so both kof2003 and SVC have the same issue on AES via converter, that makes sence given both original games are very simular in how they work (kof2003 does not have a neogeo spinning logo). Might be fixable via firmware update although thats just a guess on my part.

You are certainly right , the question is will neosd want to do that ?

Now they are developing AES version , of course that won't hurt the business because an mvs converter + MVS neosd will be certainly more expensive than a standalone AES neosd .
But i suppose , if the not working games and menu issue is related only to the AES hardware and not the converter , there's a little chance to fix it on mvs neosd in the future.

fille1976
11-26-2016, 07:41 AM
are there aes to mvs controller converters?
im gona buy a mvs,but want to use the aes stick and neo geo cd gamepad.

greatfunky
11-26-2016, 07:48 AM
are there aes to mvs controller converters?
im gona buy a mvs,but want to use the aes stick and neo geo cd gamepad.

You can buy that http://www.retroelectronik.com/fr/arcade-supergun/144-arcade-supergun-retroelectronik-essential-le-plus-polyvalent-des-superguns-5674864654513.html
that is working with neo geo stick db 15

fille1976
11-26-2016, 07:51 AM
i said i gona buy an mvs next years,seems i gona buy it right now.
its consolized mv1b with unibios 3.3,neo geo gamepad and stick also working on it.
so why wait.
just payed,its from here on the forum.
its much cheaper then buy from here https://www.arcadeworks.net/omega-neo-geo-mvs-home-console
its a nicer look,but now i can play next week with my neosd.

GadgetUK
11-26-2016, 07:53 AM
Mine arrived but I cannot use it =/ Originally I read the software worked on XP - most of my machines are still running XP, despite being modern hardware (mostly for development and diagnostic software that needs XP). I do have a Vista partition though, with the 4.5.2 .NET framework installed, and I installed the Visual C++ 2015 Update 3 Redist. The app keeps telling me that I need to install the VC 2015 Update 3 when its already installed. Damn annoying =/

EDIT: Going to have a play with the command line tool, I suspect I might have more luck with that!

lachlan
11-26-2016, 07:58 AM
Does the software not work on 7+?

GadgetUK
11-26-2016, 08:51 AM
I will post tech stuff on that other thread on the tech forum. The tool seems to be working on Windows 7, but my worst fears have come true - the CRCs have to match, and the filenames within the zips too. I have a fairly recent set and filenames and CRCs don't match what the tool expects, the tool just then skips the ROM, which imo is wrong - why not just allow the build as is, because the CRCs wont always match depending on what version I am trying to put onto the cart.

Mikekim
11-26-2016, 09:15 AM
I ran mine from a 0.144 version of mame..
came back with 242 of the 259.
removed the majority of alt versions and bootlegs and now have 181 on the SD card (kept a couple of the better alt versions and boots)

MattBlah
11-26-2016, 10:18 AM
Absolutely loving mine. Just for the record, took 3mins 52seconds to flash KOF2003 :lolz:

poodude
11-26-2016, 10:49 AM
Disappointed the converter isn't working correctly. Pre-flashing every game on mvs for the AES sounds kind of poopy to me. Let's hope a hardware guy can figure it out. A group buy could bring those magic keys under $200. Why are they so expensive anyway?

Grendell
11-26-2016, 10:56 AM
-_- is this some kind of sarcasm ?

fille1976
11-26-2016, 10:56 AM
buyed a few hours ago an consolized mvs,have socketed 3.3 unibios,have normal neo geo ports on it.
so hope i have it next week.
tryed everything on aes with magic converter.
it is modded so i dont have to push the button on the converter to use 161 in 1.
but desoldered it,used the button,cleaned contacts,used other sdcard.
its sad it doesnt work,but i give up and buyed that mvs.

Rot
11-26-2016, 11:08 AM
Disappointed the converter isn't working correctly. Pre-flashing every game on mvs for the AES sounds kind of poopy to me. Let's hope a hardware guy can figure it out. A group buy could bring those magic keys under $200. Why are they so expensive anyway?

Mmhh...

Neosd sold this as an MVS flash thingy... it was NEVER sold as compatible with a fucking AES convertor you dumb n00b...

As for the price point... for what it is... I find it extremely reasonable... it plays the Neo library in perfect format from what we have seen...

Hence... it is a good value entry point device... If YOU don't like it... go buy a TSS loose cart for $700usd then.. then spend the rest of your life complaining you can;t play the NG library because your cheap ass has been priced out of the market...

Fuckin n00bs...

xROTx

aku
11-26-2016, 11:22 AM
kof 2003 (flash & erase NM) in 03:44:31 with the 32GB San Disk Extreme Plus ;)

veryvery happy so far...found only one little bug so far (constant sound hiss when you exit back to menu, is gone when you start flashing the next game)

made a messy insert, will do the job for me until some official stuff is released

40868

fille1976
11-26-2016, 11:24 AM
nice aku

manic23
11-26-2016, 11:32 AM
Really like that insert, good work

nio
11-26-2016, 11:49 AM
I like mine! Ok, I have not played it yer. But I like the way it looks. Both PCB are nearly identical, very semmetrical. Looks very good!

+ I reacently bought a lot of Kickstarter stuff. You preorder something and if you have luck you get some crap mayb a year later. But this came out of nowhere, arrived super fast and is cool.

A MVS halfe sized shell, like Famicom would be cool. But actually I dont really care.

grandmascrack
11-26-2016, 11:59 AM
veryvery happy so far...found only one little bug so far (constant sound hiss when you exit back to menu, is gone when you start flashing the next game)

made a messy insert, will do the job for me until some official stuff is released


Hell yeah man, I love it. I have a shockbox hanging out just waiting to give it a good home and that insert would be awesome for it.

Maybe add it to the southtown collection of inserts?

greatfunky
11-26-2016, 12:32 PM
Playing now with my AES :)

40870

poodude
11-26-2016, 05:30 PM
Insert looks nice. Honestly a cart sticker similar to that wouldn't look bad either. As long as it's 100% working on mvs I'll be happy with it. I can just use a supergun for the TV. I will test it on both mv1fz and mv-1.

Rot
11-26-2016, 05:37 PM
Insert looks nice. Honestly a cart sticker similar to that wouldn't look bad either. As long as it's 100% working on mvs I'll be happy with it. I can just use a supergun for the TV. I will test it on both mv1fz and mv-1.

Good boy... stay on Topic... be polite and not dumb... I had already War Room locked some other numbskull tonight for just replying to me...

You n00bs are lucky... there are certain triggers that will involve some sort of rape... BUT... I am relaxing a few of my normal principles for a more lax approach in neosd's thread...

DON'T ABUSE IT.... or you will find there's a VERY good reason why I'm effective...

xROTx

DaytimeDreamer
11-26-2016, 06:37 PM
Playing now with my AES :)

40870

Sweet. Which adapter are you using? Found any problems playing the NeoSD via an adapter on the AES?

Dahun72
11-26-2016, 09:07 PM
I've held off buying one as I was waiting til people got their hands on one.

Is everyone loving it? Any issues? Any games not playing or have issues. I wanna get one from the next batch but would to hear from the non techies. Cheers.

greedostick
11-27-2016, 01:42 AM
I'm still waiting, but I will be able to test on Daedalus. Hopefully very soon.

X68
11-27-2016, 02:43 AM
http://i68.tinypic.com/2bqt6s.jpg

greatfunky
11-27-2016, 03:27 AM
Sweet. Which adapter are you using? Found any problems playing the NeoSD via an adapter on the AES?
I'm using the neo magic key converter last green version (mine in painted in black)

There are difficulties however, you need to disable with a switch the built-in unibios of the converter and you need an mvs slot to write the game (neosd menu isn't working with AES)

DaytimeDreamer
11-27-2016, 06:48 AM
I'm using the neo magic key converter last green version (mine in painted in black)

There are difficulties however, you need to disable with a switch the built-in unibios of the converter and you need an mvs slot to write the game (neosd menu isn't working with AES)

I see. Does SSVS play without any issues? Is sound with the sound effects 100% ok? Some people earlier in this thread reported that the game dump in regards to sound was not 100% ok. Just wondering.

Razoola
11-27-2016, 06:57 AM
If the game dump is bad then or course they will carry though to the neosd as stated already.

greatfunky
11-27-2016, 06:57 AM
I see. Does SSVS play without any issues? Is sound with the sound effects 100% ok? Some people earlier in this thread reported that the game dump in regards to sound was not 100% ok. Just wondering.

The sound issue is still there , i think about the clicking noise in "Basara"

neosd
11-27-2016, 07:25 AM
The sound issue is still there , i think about the clicking noise in "Basara"

Hello

The rom is a bad dump, everyone has to wait until someone redumps it.

Thanks

xardion
11-27-2016, 07:27 AM
A little of topic , i was looking at an old brochure for the Multi Game Doctor 2 Neo Geo and could anyone identify the game at the bottom of the page?

40880

jhonny d
11-27-2016, 09:02 AM
looks like it's dark seal 2 (not a neo geo game)

about ssvs, I see 3 sets available in mame and each one is marked as "good dump", where I can find more info about this issue (and about other bad dumps)?

aku
11-27-2016, 02:16 PM
...

Maybe add it to the southtown collection of inserts?

added terraonion sl and logo done by alien^PSVR & here you go: https://southtown-homebrew.com/product_info.php?products_id=1160

bytestorm
11-27-2016, 02:41 PM
Ah man.. too bad I recently sol my SSVS mvs.. could easily redumped/rechecked the Vs for ya :(. Lets hope some friendly soul can recheck em (or could it be the M1?)

AMike
11-27-2016, 04:14 PM
Has anyone tested the neoSD with a MVS II converter with the green light?

mhell06
11-27-2016, 06:21 PM
Hi, new member here! I've been reading through this thread and I'm really impressed by this tech. Will definately by an AES version at some point. Got me wondering though, has anyone tried Neo Geo CD roms on it yet? Is that even possible?Think I read somewhere that it was basically the same games run on aes/mvs and cd (I'm sure there were exceptions if that is true). Imagine Samurai Spirits RPG with english patch and no loading screens :)

poodude
11-27-2016, 08:02 PM
The MVS conversions will work, ie. ironclad. We would have to see if SS RPG could be converted as well.

Niko
11-27-2016, 10:04 PM
looks like it's dark seal 2 (not a neo geo game)

about ssvs, I see 3 sets available in mame and each one is marked as "good dump", where I can find more info about this issue (and about other bad dumps)?

This issue was only recently discovered by me when testing a "repro" SSVS cart. I imagine all 3 dumps have the issue as they where probably merged and only difference being the P roms. I'm too scared to take a desoldering iron to my SSVS to redump the V roms.

Hopefully someone with some proven skills can take on such a task.

Neodogg
11-28-2016, 05:31 AM
This issue was only recently discovered by me when testing a "repro" SSVS cart. I imagine all 3 dumps have the issue as they where probably merged and only difference being the P roms. I'm too scared to take a desoldering iron to my SSVS to redump the V roms.

Hopefully someone with some proven skills can take on such a task.

Send it to Turf or BigBear

neosd
11-28-2016, 05:46 AM
This issue was only recently discovered by me when testing a "repro" SSVS cart. I imagine all 3 dumps have the issue as they where probably merged and only difference being the P roms. I'm too scared to take a desoldering iron to my SSVS to redump the V roms.

Hopefully someone with some proven skills can take on such a task.

Hello,

You can use a desoldering pump with a solder iron, this way it takes a lot of time but there is no risk on the pcbs

http://www.mouser.es/ProductDetail/Jonard-Industries/DP-100/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtyU1cDF2RqUCqRDgeL4QlBB0pyfSD5hXA%3d

There are other ways, but it implies to heat the pcbs.

Thanks

Razoola
11-28-2016, 06:19 AM
Technically the issue can be solved by simply taking the decrypted section from the SSV .neo and using it to correct the issue in the decrypted part of the SSVS .neo. There are only 4 bytes marked that may be wrong in either set but of course given the original ROM is encrypted a dump is really needed.

To fix the basara pop though you can probably alter in the ssvs .neo;

0x8a7bc0 from 0xab to 0x08
0x8afd41 from 0x08 to 0x89
0x8b7bc0 from 0x6e to 0x82
0x8bfd41 from 0xda to 0x8f

I have already asked NTM to look at it but unfortunately he is not sure if his programmer can dump it.

dkarDaGobert
11-28-2016, 10:56 AM
am i the only one from germany still waiting for the neosd?
feelsbadman

tracking says "in transit" since friday :(

fille1976
11-28-2016, 11:42 AM
probably it takes 5 working days.

grandmascrack
11-28-2016, 11:50 AM
am i the only one from germany still waiting for the neosd?
feelsbadman

tracking says "in transit" since friday :(

According to Correos, my package has been "Admitido" since the 21st. No idea if that means it's actually in transit or not so hey, at least you actually know your package is in transit.

neosd
11-28-2016, 11:53 AM
Hello everyone,

Admited means that the packet was deposited into correos main office.

USA packets will take more time than europe packets for sure.

Please, be patient

Thanks

grandmascrack
11-28-2016, 12:04 PM
Hello everyone,

Admited means that the packet was deposited into correos main office.

USA packets will take more time than europe packets for sure.

Please, be patient

Thanks

Apologies man, didn't mean to sound impatient or anything. Just meant that "admitted" is a bit ambiguous to where it stands overall. Not your fault in any way.

Appreciate your time and the verification!

neosd
11-28-2016, 12:13 PM
Hello,

You are more than welcome asking wathever you consider, no worries about that.
There is no way to know how correos works if you dont use it to ship, theyr whole website is pretty bad, if you ask me.

Tracking will show at usps.com as soon as the packet arrives usa.

Thanks


Apologies man, didn't mean to sound impatient or anything. Just meant that "admitted" is a bit ambiguous to where it stands overall. Not your fault in any way.

Appreciate your time and the verification!

aku
11-28-2016, 12:53 PM
am i the only one from germany still waiting for the neosd?
feelsbadman

tracking says "in transit" since friday :(

all i can say: mine was delivered by the post man on saturday and not via DHL. btw: it was very good that the pcbs were in a carton - after opening the damaged carton, i was glad that there was no "pcb puzzle" inside...

greedostick
11-28-2016, 06:05 PM
Having Issues with NeoBuilder. Keeps crashing. It tried to work the first time after loading my MAME directory and hitting start. Then is crashed mid scan. Now it just crashes as soon as I hit start.

I'm using MAME 0.161
Window 7 Professional x64
The MAME directory is on an external HDD if that matters.
NeoBuilder is on my desktop
I have the C++ distribution installed already.

Here is my error:

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: CLR20r3
Problem Signature 01: NeoBuilderUI.exe
Problem Signature 02: 1.0.0.0
Problem Signature 03: 58359e5f
Problem Signature 04: mscorlib
Problem Signature 05: 4.6.1076.0
Problem Signature 06: 56d79fa2
Problem Signature 07: 3e8
Problem Signature 08: 4f
Problem Signature 09: System.ArgumentOutOfRange
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 0a9e
Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
Additional Information 3: 0a9e
Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789

poodude
11-28-2016, 11:55 PM
The current build of the UI can't handle the entire mameset at once. Just use the command line if you're going to do that. You could also just pull the neo roms into their own directory.

Nostromo
11-29-2016, 12:08 AM
@NeoSD is the shell still on course to be shipped on the 1st of December (or around that time)? Thanks!

neosd
11-29-2016, 01:35 AM
@NeoSD is the shell still on course to be shipped on the 1st of December (or around that time)? Thanks!

Hello,

We have a meeting at plastics factory tomorrow, we should get the preseries shells this week.
Right now, we cant give a shipping date for the shells but prolly we could ship in about one week, tomorrow we will know more and we will let you all know.

Thanks

manic23
11-29-2016, 01:54 AM
The current build of the UI can't handle the entire mameset at once. Just use the command line if you're going to do that. You could also just pull the neo roms into their own directory.

I built my .neo roms from a complete MAME set no probs (0.171). I used the latest version of neobuilder with no crashes or errors. I have Win 10 Anniversary update.

Nostromo
11-29-2016, 06:15 AM
@NeoSD thanks for the update, looking forward for the case!

Meanwhile, wife called me to tell me I got a package from Spain awaiting at home. Pity there is still no sign of my JNX Consolised from the US :/

fenikso
11-29-2016, 07:51 AM
Yeah, Correos' website sucked. I couldn't figure out how to run the tracking # through it and so I'll just have to wait for it to show up. Thankfully I don't have a problem in my neighborhood with stolen packages.

aoiddr
11-29-2016, 08:11 AM
Yeah, Correos' website sucked. I couldn't figure out how to run the tracking # through it and so I'll just have to wait for it to show up. Thankfully I don't have a problem in my neighborhood with stolen packages.

Try putting your tracking number through this site to see the initial shipping info:
http://www.track-trace.com/post

If you're in the USA, it'll only show as a valid tracking number after it hits customs (which is when you can track it on USPS.com).

fenikso
11-29-2016, 11:17 AM
Thanks for the link. That website is showing it as "accepted", so it must not have made it through customs yet.

X68
11-29-2016, 03:36 PM
Regarding SD cards and write times - I just bought the recommended 32gb v30 msd... previously I was using a UHS-1/10 16gb samsung card.
The 16gb card was faster by 2 seconds - maybe due to the card size rather than the rated read/write speed?
I have a new 32gb msd for my phone ;)

neosd
11-29-2016, 04:08 PM
Hello,

Have you formated it before copy the roms ?
It also deppends which game you had flashed before, cause erasing time differs on that.

Thanks


Regarding SD cards and write times - I just bought the recommended 32gb v30 msd... previously I was using a UHS-1/10 16gb samsung card.
The 16gb card was faster by 2 seconds - maybe due to the card size rather than the rated read/write speed?
I have a new 32gb msd for my phone ;)

Rot
11-29-2016, 04:35 PM
As a Pawnbroker... I sell a lot of 2nd hand mobiles... and I also notice that certain phones will lag after a larger microSD card is installed...

I'm no tech god but I've seen it enough to say that sometimes smaller is better...

xROTx

PS. Thats what I tell the missus as well...:keke:

nornor1
11-29-2016, 09:55 PM
As a Pawnbroker... I sell a lot of 2nd hand mobiles... and I also notice that certain phones will lag after a larger microSD card is installed...

I'm no tech god but I've seen it enough to say that sometimes smaller is better...

xROTx

PS. Thats what I tell the missus as well...:keke:

It's all about Width!!

X68
11-30-2016, 12:16 AM
Hello,

Have you formated it before copy the roms ?
It also deppends which game you had flashed before, cause erasing time differs on that.

Thanks

Yeah both formatted same FAT32 & both doing same thing - erasing KOF2003 then writing KOF2003

lachlan
11-30-2016, 05:09 AM
It's all about Width!!

Long and thin goes too far in, short and thick does the trick!

Sceptre_JLRB
11-30-2016, 08:27 AM
Just a little bit issue, maybe not related at all with NeoSD.

Nightmare in the Dark. On the NeoSD, the sound fxs when the character jumps and drops on the ground seems to slightly crackle, what is also present with ROMs from different sources. This occurs more prominently when played on MAME, NeoRage and, even more, in the 161-in-1 multicarts. Searching for it on YouTube, there seems to be some videos where the problem is not present:

* No jump/drop sound fx crackling: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0jmt37EzFY&t=319s

* Jump/drop sound fx crackling: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4vFz_Iqo0U

The question is: Is this crackle sound present in the original game, or is it just a bad dumped ROM (in the same way that of SSVS with its "Basara" pop is)?

dkarDaGobert
11-30-2016, 08:32 AM
am i the only one from germany still waiting for the neosd?
feelsbadman

tracking says "in transit" since friday :(

is there a strike going on in spain?
nothing changed since friday :( - it still says "25/11/2016 Dispatch from the point of origin international office "
i dont want to wait any longer ;*(

neosd
11-30-2016, 08:46 AM
Hello,

Actually this means that the packet left Spain on 25/11/2016

Could you ask your postal service about that ?

Thanks


is there a strike going on in spain?
nothing changed since friday :( - it still says "25/11/2016 Dispatch from the point of origin international office "
i dont want to wait any longer ;*(

dragonpt
11-30-2016, 08:56 AM
So .. Who's selling this on yahoo auctions?

Dunno if its already counterfeits..

http://page17.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/v475620265

Better have a look

Edit: looks a legit. Neosd...

Still wow, that was fast...

dkarDaGobert
11-30-2016, 08:58 AM
i cant track it via dhl, post.de, gls and dpd. dont know which service will be used in germany.

neosd
11-30-2016, 09:03 AM
i cant track it via dhl, post.de, gls and dpd. dont know which service will be used in germany.

Hello,

Let us ask our correos representative by phone call.

Can you send us an email with your order number, tracking or address ? You can send me a PM aswel.
I promisse to call correos representative in the moment we got your details.


EDIT : Got the email, let me get your tracking number and do the call.

EDIT2 : Just called the sales representative, he was out of the office, i just have mailed him the tracking number, he promissed to check it once he reaches the office, in 1-2 hours.
As soon as i get the email/call back i will let you know.



Thanks

GadgetUK
11-30-2016, 09:43 AM
So .. Who's selling this on yahoo auctions?

Dunno if its already counterfeits..

http://page17.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/v475620265

Better have a look

Edit: looks a legit. Neosd...

Still wow, that was fast...
Looks original, my guess is a Japanese seller - there can't be many shipped to Asia so far? They've removed the serial number stickers but the SN is required for some updates I think.

neosd
11-30-2016, 09:46 AM
Hello everyone,

http://www.neosdstore.com/news/index.php/2016/11/30/noesd-shells/

Plastic shells news.
As allways, no smoke, pictures attached.

Thanks !

dragonpt
11-30-2016, 09:48 AM
Looks original, my guess is a Japanese seller - there can't be many shipped to Asia so far? They've removed the serial number stickers but the SN is required for some updates I think.

Yeah no serial... Hence why I posted here the link

Still think it was way fast for a Japanese buyer to get it & dump it to yahoo auctions

neosd
11-30-2016, 09:59 AM
i cant track it via dhl, post.de, gls and dpd. dont know which service will be used in germany.

Hello,

Just get the email back from correos representative :

They have told us that the packet arrived Frankfurt yesterday and it is on delivery process. They say that they expect to have it delivery tomorrow or friday.

Let us know if it dosent arrives tomorrow or dosent shows in your postal service website tracking, so we will contact correos again.

Thanks

fille1976
11-30-2016, 10:23 AM
tomorrow or friday normally i can begin to test my neosd,hope the mvs is good and not some problem with.
will post pictures or video.

MattBlah
11-30-2016, 10:30 AM
Hello everyone,

http://www.neosdstore.com/news/index.php/2016/11/30/noesd-shells/

Plastic shells news.
As allways, no smoke, pictures attached.

Thanks !

Looking good. Because of the board size, I kind of assumed that the shell would be half size, so smaller than standard carts. Either way is good though, I suppose some people would complain if the shells were smaller than standard.

genetik
11-30-2016, 10:37 AM
I've been out of it lately with Neo Geo games (well, anything retro really). Mostly busy with work and life. I heard some weeks back that this was coming. I was curious, but I figured that the product would be shoddy at best. Read most of this thread, and I have to say that it does look very impressive. Kudos to you and anyone that worked on this. I got no real reason to get one (completed my NG collection some time ago), but I do still feel compelled to order one nonetheless (would be nice to set in the cab and not have to open it to swap carts). I hope you'll still be making them for weeks/months to come, as I need to save up before ordering one :).

neosd
11-30-2016, 10:38 AM
Hello,

The shells have the same exact size than AES shells do, maybe the mold seems small in the pictures, but its huge.
They move the mold with a crane.

We also got some intial shell injections today, but the mold wasnt polished so those look ugly, better we show the final ones done with the polished mold so people does not missunderstand that ...

Thanks



Looking good. Because of the board size, I kind of assumed that the shell would be half size, so smaller than standard carts. Either way is good though, I suppose some people would complain if the shells were smaller than standard.

sparksterz
11-30-2016, 10:44 AM
God damn, I had no idea they needed such a large block for the mold...

aku
11-30-2016, 11:11 AM
i cant track it via dhl, post.de, gls and dpd. dont know which service will be used in germany.

as i said, the post man from deutsche post brought mine in the morning - not dhl, gls, dpd, fedex, hermes or whatever. post man. deutsche post. mine.

aoiddr
11-30-2016, 11:23 AM
When the shells start shipping, will those be sent a cheaper, untracked postal class? Just curious if they'll have to be something that you're required to sign for like the NEOSD itself.

greatfunky
11-30-2016, 11:23 AM
Hello,

The shells have the same exact size than AES shells do, maybe the mold seems small in the pictures, but its huge.
They move the mold with a crane.

We also got some intial shell injections today, but the mold wasnエt polished so those look ugly, better we show the final ones done with the polished mold so people does not missunderstand that ...

Thanks

Good work for the mold, reminds me when I was a young apprentice in mold making , i could imagine the price of that little baby ....;)

dkarDaGobert
11-30-2016, 11:40 AM
as i said, the post man from deutsche post brought mine in the morning - not dhl, gls, dpd, fedex, hermes or whatever. post man. deutsche post. mine.

if its by deutsche post you can still track the "einschreiben" via their website

GadgetUK
11-30-2016, 12:25 PM
A bit of an initial review:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv6eYff-fZ0&feature=youtu.be

Razoola
11-30-2016, 01:12 PM
Watching the video now, nice.. whats TerraOnion though?

Rot
11-30-2016, 01:14 PM
A bit of an initial review:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv6eYff-fZ0&feature=youtu.be

Nice review...

xROTx

PS. I like Terra Onions...

EDIT: You sound like a posh Bricklayer:D Muhahahahahha:p

GadgetUK
11-30-2016, 01:37 PM
Nice review...

xROTx

PS. I like Terra Onions...

EDIT: You sound like a posh Bricklayer:D Muhahahahahha:p

Haha - I should be offended, but actually I am northerner and proud of it. =D

GadgetUK
11-30-2016, 01:38 PM
Watching the video now, nice.. whats TerraOnion though?

That's the actuall company behind the Neo SD. That's what's on the billing and receipts etc.

Rot
11-30-2016, 01:41 PM
Haha - I should be offended, but actually I am northerner and proud of it. =D

Stick around my friend... I sound like a Posh Southern Git...

I suppose it's because, I was formally educated in Worthing.... then The University Of Birmingham...

xROTx

PS. Not that crappy Polytechnics shit... The University of Birmingham... Yup... I am one cool Ass egghead...

fille1976
11-30-2016, 01:43 PM
like always intresting and good review of a nice piece of flashcard

massimiliano
11-30-2016, 03:00 PM
Great video! btw...is the serial n. the string printed on the sticker?

Edit:

never mind, the answer is yes, it is displayed on the gui as well.

massimiliano
11-30-2016, 03:16 PM
Curiosity about the name of the game displayed in the gui.. I suppose it is read from the file ..like an header somewhere?
Would that be possible to edit the header in the file pack to display the Japanese title using Kana/Kanjis? (let's forget for a second about the rom CRC)
Would the flashcart support such charset?

Of course the bios will eventually dictate the region, but I guess it would be nice to have the original title for those interested in a full-JPN setup.... priority 4 of course.

neodev
12-01-2016, 04:09 AM
Curiosity about the name of the game displayed in the gui.. I suppose it is read from the file ..like an header somewhere?
Would that be possible to edit the header in the file pack to display the Japanese title using Kana/Kanjis? (let's forget for a second about the rom CRC)
Would the flashcart support such charset?

Of course the bios will eventually dictate the region, but I guess it would be nice to have the original title for those interested in a full-JPN setup.... priority 4 of course.

Changing the game name in the .neo header doesn't affect the crc used by NeoValidator, it just checksums a few important fields of the header (mainly, rom sizes) and then the rom data itself. Names and other metadata are excluded from the CRC. This is done that way so you can change the name of a game to a different one if you wish, and still knowing if the data is ok.

Currently, the menu only supports the ASCII charset, but it's planned to support japanese charset (only hiragana, katakana and a few kanji like the bios charset) in the near future. There is enough space for it in the graphics rom, that's not an issue.
The main issue here is that japanese chars need to be double height, so handling the game list with mixed 1 line and 2 line height names is a bit more difficult, and we would need to decide if doing it that way, or switching to all double height chars when any japanese name is present, or maybe having both names in the .neo header, and choose if you wish to use the japanese one (with double height for ascii characters too) or english ones.
Also, Neobuilder will need to be modified to add alternate japanese names when creating .neo files.

But yes, there are plans to support japanese names :)

xsq
12-01-2016, 07:41 AM
After taking a break from the forums I just finished reading the whole thread... and all I can do is applaud and praise the NEOSD team. You have done this right in every regard. Not only did you make a most amazing product happen that has been every Neo fans wet dream for decades, you also talk and listen to the community. You are awesome.

And of course thanks to Raz for the great reviews.


It's also nice to see how almost everyone posted supportively in here.

Now I need to figure out how to raise 400... might sell the MVS carts I amassed over the last years... wow.


Looking forward to the next steps in this project - shells, stickers (I'm not loving the design yet... the UI and logo Alien^PDX did were great (kudos for having him on board btw.), a more "oldshool"/"pixelated" design would rock and befit the product better... also does the URL have to be on there? Seems kinda cheap to me), Homeversion, software updates, new features etc. I too am in the camp of hoping this will bring some more good homebrew/independent devs to the Neo btw.

I'm very anxious to learn what your future projects might be as well!


This is history in the making. Thanks again to everyone involved, keep up the good work.


please excuse me while I go wash out my mouth all this positive talk is against my cynical nature :keke:

Ren-chan
12-01-2016, 08:09 AM
After taking a break from the forums I just finished reading the whole thread... and all I can do is applaud and praise the NEOSD team. You have done this right in every regard. Not only did you make a most amazing product happen that has been every Neo fans wet dream for decades, you also talk and listen to the community. You are awesome.

And of course thanks to Raz for the great reviews.


It's also nice to see how almost everyone posted supportively in here.

Now I need to figure out how to raise €400... might sell the MVS carts I amassed over the last years... wow.


Looking forward to the next steps in this project - shells, stickers (I'm not loving the design yet... the UI and logo Alien^PDX did were great (kudos for having him on board btw.), a more "oldshool"/"pixelated" design would rock and befit the product better... also does the URL have to be on there? Seems kinda cheap to me), Homeversion, software updates, new features etc. I too am in the camp of hoping this will bring some more good homebrew/independent devs to the Neo btw.

I'm very anxious to learn what your future projects might be as well!


This is history in the making. Thanks again to everyone involved, keep up the good work.


please excuse me while I go wash out my mouth… all this positive talk is against my cynical nature :keke:

If you did read it from post #1 it must have been taken you like 2 weeks :keke:
Welcome back dude ^^

Gummy Bear
12-01-2016, 08:22 AM
Black label with NEOSD logo in the middle.
Fixed.

massimiliano
12-01-2016, 03:16 PM
Changing the game name in the .neo header doesn't affect the crc used by NeoValidator, it just checksums a few important fields of the header (mainly, rom sizes) and then the rom data itself. Names and other metadata are excluded from the CRC. This is done that way so you can change the name of a game to a different one if you wish, and still knowing if the data is ok.

Currently, the menu only supports the ASCII charset, but it's planned to support japanese charset (only hiragana, katakana and a few kanji like the bios charset) in the near future. There is enough space for it in the graphics rom, that's not an issue.
The main issue here is that japanese chars need to be double height, so handling the game list with mixed 1 line and 2 line height names is a bit more difficult, and we would need to decide if doing it that way, or switching to all double height chars when any japanese name is present, or maybe having both names in the .neo header, and choose if you wish to use the japanese one (with double height for ascii characters too) or english ones.
Also, Neobuilder will need to be modified to add alternate japanese names when creating .neo files.

But yes, there are plans to support japanese names :)

Great!! Thanks for the reply!

Mr Marth
12-01-2016, 03:58 PM
I'm really hoping they do a flash cart for AES, I can't afford any of the games I want for it

tcdev
12-01-2016, 11:22 PM
I'm really hoping they do a flash cart for AES, I can't afford any of the games I want for it
They have announced they are working on one next/now.

dragonpt
12-02-2016, 03:08 AM
Mehhh
Still trying to convince my wife to let me spent this much...

:) lol

But totally worth it..

nio
12-02-2016, 05:42 AM
People with 4-Solt MVS, do you buy 4 moduls?

I just started mine up, its just really cool!!

nornor1
12-02-2016, 08:06 AM
Mehhh
Still trying to convince my wife to let me spent this much...

:) lol

But totally worth it..

You gotta go downtown a couple times. she will let you get what you want!!!

dragonpt
12-02-2016, 09:07 AM
You gotta go downtown a couple times. she will let you get what you want!!!
Mehh I'm lazy AF

neosd
12-02-2016, 09:41 AM
Hello everyone,

AES version finished, sales are open, more info on the news section :

http://www.neosdstore.com/news/index.php/2016/12/02/neosd-aes-finished-sales-are-open-limited-stock/

Some videos :

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Thanks

neosd
12-02-2016, 09:43 AM
Hello,

On the last AES video you can see how shells look like, take in mind that those are preproduction units and final ones will not have some marks those have.
Shells are the same for AES than MVS, we still dont have a shipping date for the shells, monday we will know more, we are doing out best to ship the shells as soon as possible



Thanks

Razoola
12-02-2016, 09:46 AM
BOOM!

Reclaimer
12-02-2016, 09:51 AM
Bravo!

Still waiting on my MVS version to arrive, but this is awesome news!!

MattBlah
12-02-2016, 09:58 AM
Wow, I didn't expect the AES version to be ready so quickly. Great work again, NeoSD.

Opethian
12-02-2016, 10:06 AM
I'm in like Flynn

DaytimeDreamer
12-02-2016, 10:12 AM
Hello,

On the last AES video you can see how shells look like, take in mind that those are preproduction units and final ones will not have some marks those have.
Shells are the same for AES than MVS, we still dont have a shipping date for the shells, monday we will know more, we are doing out best to ship the shells as soon as possible



Thanks

Damn that was fast! You sir are a gift to the Neo community. Placing my order later tonight.

41030

xsq
12-02-2016, 10:13 AM
https://m.popkey.co/d412ec/87j90.gif


//EDIT: Shells look great btw.

pixeljunkie
12-02-2016, 10:31 AM
shut up and take my money - ordered

cyd
12-02-2016, 10:38 AM
Astounded, truly astounded!

GadgetUK
12-02-2016, 10:50 AM
Excellent! I've added some comments, links to your AES videos and annotation at the start of my review vid. Amazing that the AES version is ready so soon too!

Sceptre_JLRB
12-02-2016, 10:55 AM
And this is the magic from the almighty NeoSD Team! :buttrock:
Congratulations!

neosd
12-02-2016, 10:57 AM
Excellent! I've added some comments, links to your AES videos and annotation at the start of my review vid. Amazing that the AES version is ready so soon too!

GadgetUK,

I just sent you an email.

Check that please.


Also, i have talked with Alien^PDX today, we says that he will have the sticker design this weekend (or atleast he is trying to), that you all will be pleased with it, and that he reads this forum ....


Thanks

manic23
12-02-2016, 11:02 AM
Blinking flip, how do you do this? must be witchcraft or Voodoo, in either case I am also surprised that the AES version or ready to fast. I have also ordered this.

Tjanko04
12-02-2016, 11:03 AM
So I took a break from the forums as well for a while and come back to see this...on the day that I'm staying home from work to get the circuit board replaced in my furnace that's going to cost $700. Hahahaha. Such is life.

Edit: Oh, and the Euro dropped recently too? Haha, geez....

neosd
12-02-2016, 11:07 AM
Blinking flip, how do you do this? must be witchcraft or Voodoo, in either case I am also surprised that the AES version or ready to fast. I have also ordered this.

Working 16 hours a day since i cant remeber.
With courage, and a lot of love and proud, doing it again, again and again until its perfect.

Thanks for all the support guys, this make us really proud about what we are doing, i have no words

Razoola
12-02-2016, 11:10 AM
You need to update your SIG now to say 'NEOSD - The ONLY Neo Geo MVS & AES Flash Cart - TEAM Member'

fille1976
12-02-2016, 11:40 AM
hi,received my mvs and neosd working fine.
pics coming later,tomorrow is test day.

fenikso
12-02-2016, 11:48 AM
I must not purchase the AES version I must not purchase the AES version I must not purchase the AES version I must not purchase the AES version.....

You guys couldn't wait until tax season to release this? I'm only human....

Rot
12-02-2016, 11:52 AM
I am glad everyone is happy to see this... It's going to be a fun ride...

xROTx

PS.... I would still like it nice and civilised... You guys have been great upto now... Thank you...

Jag-Master
12-02-2016, 11:57 AM
@Neosd & @Neodev

Just curious, do you know if the home cart version fits into the original SNK plastic snap-lock cases without any alterations needed to the case?
Same question for the MVS version and a shockbox case too?

Thanks

shaneboc
12-02-2016, 11:59 AM
hello neo sd

thanks for all the hard work you have put in making this great product. I really hate to contact you though this forum and I know that you are working long hours, but I ordered your MVS cart Tuesday and then found out about the AES cart right after that, my bad . I am assuming that you are not involved in the sales but I was wondering if you could give me a contact email of some one who could change my order to a AES cart. I can pay the difference or cancel or what ever is easiest. I have tried though the neo sd store support but have not heard anything back from them for a couple of days. maybe I have contacted the wrong support section?

any help would be greatly appreciated

my apologies again for the hassle

mistahsnart
12-02-2016, 12:16 PM
Absolutely top-notch work, neosd. Hats off to you and your team. What an amazing time to be a Neo Geo fan.

neosd
12-02-2016, 12:25 PM
Hello,

I have original AES cases, old type and new type.
I would say that those fit 100%, i can check it latter tonite and let you know.

About the shockboxes, if an original AES cartridge fits there, neosd shell should fit. Unfortunally i never liked shockboxes so i never purchased one.

Thanks


@Neosd & @Neodev

Just curious, do you know if the home cart version fits into the original SNK plastic snap-lock cases without any alterations needed to the case?
Same question for the MVS version and a shockbox case too?

Thanks

neosd
12-02-2016, 12:27 PM
Hello,

Send us an email to contact@neosdstore....

We will get that shored for you, dont worry.

BTW it will take some time cause accounting is handled on regular bussiness hours, they are not as crazy as us to work every day at every hour :)

Thanks


hello neo sd

thanks for all the hard work you have put in making this great product. I really hate to contact you though this forum and I know that you are working long hours, but I ordered your MVS cart Tuesday and then found out about the AES cart right after that, my bad . I am assuming that you are not involved in the sales but I was wondering if you could give me a contact email of some one who could change my order to a AES cart. I can pay the difference or cancel or what ever is easiest. I have tried though the neo sd store support but have not heard anything back from them for a couple of days. maybe I have contacted the wrong support section?

any help would be greatly appreciated

my apologies again for the hassle

aku
12-02-2016, 01:04 PM
... he will have the sticker design this weekend (or atleast he is trying to), that you all will be pleased with it...

so that 18 year old robotic looking japanese girl with a vagina and a penis, two assholes, holding scaramangas golden gun and a samurai laser sword will be on that sticker?! awesome!

fille1976
12-02-2016, 01:36 PM
http://i63.tinypic.com/2kle8p.jpg

http://i68.tinypic.com/2zefl9e.jpg

im so happy that i can play on neo geo with neosd,its a masterpiece.
thx for your hard work neosd,to make many their dream come true.

Rot
12-02-2016, 01:49 PM
FFS Fille.... don't you have cable ties or something?... even Elastic bands...

I also put stickers on my plugs.... and leads....

xROTx

fille1976
12-02-2016, 01:53 PM
at the end of this month i have a week vacation,so im gona make some time for it.
its indeed a mess rot

neosd
12-02-2016, 02:19 PM
so that 18 year old robotic looking japanese girl with a vagina and a penis, two assholes, holding scaramangas golden gun and a samurai laser sword will be on that sticker?! awesome!

Hello,

We have asked just what you say, but Alien delivered something different, we hope he can fix it :



https://s13.postimg.org/6keq05krr/Whats_App_Image_2016_12_02_at_20_45_37.jpg
https://s13.postimg.org/3rlig4kfb/Whats_App_Image_2016_12_02_at_20_45_26.jpg

Hope you guys like it, its still work in progress

Thanks

Sceptre_JLRB
12-02-2016, 02:38 PM
:eek: I'm lovin' it, specially the first design! Excellent work, once again!

Kid Panda
12-02-2016, 02:59 PM
So will you continue to make the AES version? I may or may not be able to purchase in March, like have to see.

neosd
12-02-2016, 03:15 PM
So will you continue to make the AES version? I may or may not be able to purchase in March, like have to see.

Hello,

We are going to manufacture it as long as there is demand for it.

Thing is that the batch will be shipped about 14th january, cause one of the factories is going to close from 23th december to 8th January, so we got production slot for the last part of the process (solder stage), at the first week once factory opens back from christmass.

That means : for the next batch we will need atleast 4 weeks, cause factories after christmass stop will have a lot of orders, not just our orders, other companies orders. So we will need atleast 4 or 5 weeks to get slot for a new batch (in best scenario, you just ask for slot and they tell you when they have slot for you), this puts us in end of frebruary for the next batch if there are not factory delays.

Resuming : the ones that order now will wait about 1 month and a week from now to get it shipped, the ones that miss this batch and wait for the next batch will have to wait about 2-3 months from today.

I hope i have explained myself.

Thanks

shaneboc
12-02-2016, 04:09 PM
Hello,

Send us an email to contact@neosdstore....

We will get that shored for you, donエt worry.

BTW it will take some time cause accounting is handled on regular bussiness hours, they are not as crazy as us to work every day at every hour :)

Thanks

fantastic, thanks for all you do
and sorry for the trouble

poodude
12-02-2016, 05:01 PM
The new sticker is looking better (upper right). A pop ofcolor might add something to it, like the greenish blue in the neoSD logo.

Gummy Bear
12-02-2016, 05:23 PM
New sticker is looking a lot better.
Gotta agree with xsq though, having the shop URL on there is a bit cheesy.
Who would that be advertising the shop to? The people who already own the cart and shell? ;)

itsofrustratin
12-02-2016, 05:24 PM
This certainly makes owning an AES alot more interesting. Really impressive work, I was starting to think we would never see an AES flash cart.

Tjanko04
12-02-2016, 06:24 PM
This certainly makes owning an AES alot more interesting. Really impressive work, I was starting to think we would never see an AES flash cart.

It sure does. It also puts someone like me at a crossroads. For the last 6 months I've been picking up the cheapest and most common MVS carts that I want to play before dropping the cash for a CMVS. But now, do I just go the AES route? It's not like I sunk a ton of money into MVS games yet. I just don't know!

eek
12-02-2016, 06:30 PM
@NeoSD

Been following this thread and I must say I'm really impressed by your work ethic. You said you guys are working on the AES version next and then bam it's done, with video proof.

A lot of vaporware companies do the marketing hype with no real product but you guys are doing it right, reveal only when you have things working and ready to go. If only more people can work the way you guys do.

Keep up the great work!

Now I have to save up and decide which product of your's I want to buy, MVS or AES?

hyper
12-02-2016, 07:03 PM
BOOM!http://i.imgur.com/B0mDMHj.gif

leonk
12-02-2016, 09:10 PM
sorry guys. but newest label is not screaming "neo geo!" at me.

The product name should be a small side icon (Thing Nintendo, Sega or Sony on their carts) and not the main event. Main pic should be something awesome. Think more along the lines of how Duke Nukem 3D made you feel when you first saw it. YEAH! COME GET SOME!

Yodd
12-02-2016, 09:23 PM
Gotta agree. Not digging the art at all. Screams 16 bit demo scene (which I am a fan of) and not SNK.

benjiedude
12-02-2016, 09:36 PM
If we ordered today how would we know if we are in the first batch of deliveries? ...and I also agree the artwork for the label needs work. Thanks.

tcdev
12-02-2016, 09:50 PM
I guess I'm in the minority here, I quite like the artwork. I'm of the opinion that it doesn't have to "scream" Neo Geo at all; I'm happy for it to "scream" NeoSD, and let the MVS/AES hardware do the advertising for SNK.

leonk
12-02-2016, 09:59 PM
I think we need a mod to step in and clean up this thead a bit. There's a lot of valuable information here but it's lost in the pages (eg Raz's reviews, info on converting romz, etc). It would be super helpful to have links to these posts in the first one. agreed?

Rot
12-03-2016, 02:48 AM
I think we need a mod to step in and clean up this thead a bit. There's a lot of valuable information here but it's lost in the pages (eg Raz's reviews, info on converting romz, etc). It would be super helpful to have links to these posts in the first one. agreed?

Naw... too much effort...

People need to read the thread... Its a major release and all the info... even the spamming is sorta cool...

If you read a thread like this you will see the general ebb and flow of the forum... and what it takes to be a member here...

xROTx

aku
12-03-2016, 04:02 AM
https://s13.postimg.org/6keq05krr/Whats_App_Image_2016_12_02_at_20_45_37.jpg
https://s13.postimg.org/3rlig4kfb/Whats_App_Image_2016_12_02_at_20_45_26.jpg



first one looks very promising, actually fucking awesome. imho both are better than the first red version... my advise: dont try to listen to ALL n-g.com members or it will be the "hillary trump voting asiatictransteenchickmatureunicorn etc."^^

tighecg
12-03-2016, 04:17 AM
Crap, my MVS NeoSD isn't even here yet, and I am having to talk myself down from buying an AES version.:lolz: I don't even have my thingy set built yet.:emb:

NeoSD, in the future will it be possible to buy the AES version boards only, and use the shell we got with the MVS preorder? Will we also be able to buy the sticker separately?

Thank you so much for the incredible work!

Neodogg
12-03-2016, 08:20 AM
How soon till Donkey Kong is ready?

hyper
12-03-2016, 11:05 AM
u mad?

jelly?

tcdev
12-03-2016, 08:18 PM
How soon till Donkey Kong is ready?
Maybe after I get my NeoSD. I don't want the be the last one to play it on real hardware! :envy:

TMOSteel
12-03-2016, 10:42 PM
Hello,

I have original AES cases, old type and new type.
I would say that those fit 100%, i can check it latter tonite and let you know.

About the shockboxes, if an original AES cartridge fits there, neosd shell should fit. Unfortunally i never liked shockboxes so i never purchased one.

Thanks

On the Shockbox case I beleive he was asking will your MVS cart fit the Shockbox, you replied "if an original AES cartridge fits there", not sure if your reply was a typo and you meant original MVS?

In other words does your MVS cart shell have the same dimensions of an OEM or even the aftermarket MVS cases?

If it does then it should fit fine in a Shockbox case.

If anyone who received their NeoSD MVS and can confirm it fits a Shockbox case that would be great also.

Digging the NeoSD AES version as well, gonna be tough which one to choose when it comes time to order. Nice work.

poodude
12-04-2016, 01:10 AM
A regular AES cart fits just fine in a shockbox, and so will his repo shell as I assume the dimensions are exactly the same.

nio
12-04-2016, 01:12 AM
I thought the use AES shells for th MVS cart?

Razoola
12-04-2016, 02:33 AM
Yes thats right. My understanding is the NeoSD shell is the same dimentions as an AES cartridge shell. This shell will be used for both MVS and AES NeoSD's (which means youll need two different artworks neosd). This is how I worked out there would be an AES NeoSD very quickly because if you looked at the shell pictures that have been on their webstore since the start you can see its custom designed for both MVS and AES. You'll notice for example two different PCB holding strips (one for MVS and one for AES) and the shell has the SDcard gap in both sides to accomondate either the MVS or AES NeoSD.

neosd
12-04-2016, 03:55 AM
Thats 100% correct

Building 2 molds would increase the project cost a lot, so we decided to make one mold for both shells. This way we can deliver a more adjusted product price cause the ecnomic risk is lower.

I hope you all understand why we took this decision

Thanks



Yes thats right. My understanding is the NeoSD shell is the same dimentions as an AES cartridge shell. This shell will be used for both MVS and AES NeoSD's (which means youll need two different artworks neosd). This is how I worked out there would be an AES NeoSD very quickly because if you looked at the shell pictures that have been on their webstore since the start you can see its custom designed for both MVS and AES. You'll notice for example two different PCB holding strips (one for MVS and one for AES) and the shell has the SDcard gap in both sides to accomondate either the MVS or AES NeoSD.

alienpdx
12-04-2016, 04:20 AM
Hi guys, been following this thread for a while and have read your comments on the sticker artwork, and i have come to the conclussion that i cannot please everybody =)

we've deceided to loose the url on the cart (yay) and i will do a little bit of more tweaking on the metal grate/metal slug one.
Neo-Geo, for me is Metal slug. It stands for everything from my youth until now, and has been an amazing source of inspiration for me thru the years, the pixel artwork in that is unmatched, forever.

I have on purpose stayed away from copy pasting random snk artwork or deviant-art fan art , as i simply dont want to 'steal' stuff for it on a sticker. i spend a good deal of hours vector tracing that metal slug tank silouette by hand in illustrator , while i just could have copy/pasted some random artwork on it. thats not my style. hope u understand! The design is about neosd and not snk or something, the MS tank is just a little homage.

but thank u all for your feedback! no more red babboon ass design or screaming 16bit demoscene stuff (wait ,wat ;) ) i am a huge demoscener pixeler afterall (in size, that is) just watch OVERDRIVE on a megadrive and you'll see what i mean =)

Rot
12-04-2016, 04:23 AM
no more red babboon ass design

You realise man... a Red Ass Babboon in some countries is a delicacy...

Just not on a Cart sticker tho plz:p

xROTx

PS. Welcome to the forums...

neosd
12-04-2016, 04:43 AM
What can i say Alien ?

You know i am your fan number 2

Thanks for the effort



Hi guys, been following this thread for a while and have read your comments on the sticker artwork, and i have come to the conclussion that i cannot please everybody =)

we've deceided to loose the url on the cart (yay) and i will do a little bit of more tweaking on the metal grate/metal slug one.
Neo-Geo, for me is Metal slug. It stands for everything from my youth until now, and has been an amazing source of inspiration for me thru the years, the pixel artwork in that is unmatched, forever.

I have on purpose stayed away from copy pasting random snk artwork or deviant-art fan art , as i simply dont want to 'steal' stuff for it on a sticker. i spend a good deal of hours vector tracing that metal slug tank silouette by hand in illustrator , while i just could have copy/pasted some random artwork on it. thats not my style. hope u understand! The design is about neosd and not snk or something, the MS tank is just a little homage.

but thank u all for your feedback! no more red babboon ass design or screaming 16bit demoscene stuff (wait ,wat ;) ) i am a huge demoscener pixeler afterall (in size, that is) just watch OVERDRIVE on a megadrive and you'll see what i mean =)

MattBlah
12-04-2016, 06:09 AM
This might be a dumb question, but is it bad for the cart to keep flashing new games? At the moment there is just so many games that I want to play that I hadn't had the chance to before, so I find myself changing from one game to another a lot.

aku
12-04-2016, 06:12 AM
41082


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGDtViPngi8

aku
12-04-2016, 06:18 AM
This might be a dumb question, but is it bad for the cart to keep flashing new games? At the moment there is just so many games that I want to play that I hadn't had the chance to before, so I find myself changing from one game to another a lot.

i read sth about lifetime around 100.000 flashes...?! so...you should have a few changes left...

leonk
12-04-2016, 09:11 AM
alienpdx: can we see a neo geo logo anywhere on there? It should at least have that. It should also specify aes or mvs for those that have both (given the same shell is used)

mr_flaps
12-04-2016, 09:21 AM
Yeah I agree. It should specify if it's AES or MVS on the label. Maybe you can't add the neo geo logo tho due to copyright issues.