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Xian Xi
04-04-2013, 07:02 PM
What are the most commonly bootlegged AES games?

List will be here.

Please post the title and pics if possible.

HMG
04-04-2013, 07:31 PM
Metal Slug 1 and Neo Turf Masters for sure. I see those everywhere. There's always some on eBay too.

Colorado Rockie
04-04-2013, 09:57 PM
Metal Slug 2 and Ninja Master's fakes pop up on ebay from time to time

wyndcrosser
04-04-2013, 10:13 PM
bootlegs or conversions, I don't think I've seen legitimate AES bootlegs, that aren't conversions. Conversions and bootlegs are definitely different lol.

HMG
04-04-2013, 10:55 PM
You can only tell if a AES cart has EPROMs by its weight, or by opening it. Neither of those can be done through an eBay purchase.

Most people here lump them all together unfortunately, but an EPROM filled AES cart is definitely worse than one with Mask ROMs.

NeoGeoNinja
04-05-2013, 03:27 AM
In my travels across eBay and the like, I'd say, so far:

Breakers
Metal Slug 1, 2 & X
Pulstar
Blazing Star
Fu-un Tag
Ninja Masters
TSS
Shock Troopers 2
Sengoku 3/2001

And, more recently, I saw my first Rage of the Dragons!

I'm also surprised to have not yet seen a conversion/boot of SSVSpecial? Presumably they made that much harder to reproduce or it's rare on both formats (etc)?

No doubt many more will follow as AES price steadily rise out of control, making buying and, just as importantly, selling legitimate AES carts down the road, much more difficult (i.e. Garou, WW7, MMelee, SW3, KOF 03 etc)

Obviously there's a full list of MVS-to-AES conversions, but those should be much more obvious! ;)

EDIT: Just read Wyndcrossers comments. There probably IS a difference between 'outright' boots and conversions, but if something has been created from something else entirely (i.e. an MVS cart) and has repro labels, insert and manual, then it's pretty much a bootleg imo.

As such, I'm sure all the titles I listed range from conversions to outright boots! :D

SNKorSWM
04-06-2013, 12:25 AM
Last Hope AES is probably the most recent bootleg to come out.

cdamm
04-06-2013, 01:59 AM
And, more recently, I saw my first Rage of the Dragons!



if you want stupid, i happen to be the owner of a bootleg rage of the dragons MVS cart! holy shit, right?

i wouldn't even have it in my home right now if it wasn't for the fact that it was a hysterical gift from another member here.

hyper
04-06-2013, 02:02 AM
af3 has seen an upswing in popularity recently

NeoGeoNinja
04-06-2013, 05:04 AM
Last Hope AES is probably the most recent bootleg to come out.
Forgot about that one!


if you want stupid, i happen to be the owner of a bootleg rage of the dragons MVS cart! holy shit, right?

i wouldn't even have it in my home right now if it wasn't for the fact that it was a hysterical gift from another member here.
Hysterical gift? Don't think I've ever received one of those. Also, what's the deal with PPL bootlegging MVS carts?! I'm presuming it's something to do with using the original MVS ROMS for an AES conversion and then using some cheap (out of my depth here!) reprogrammed ROMS or EPROMS(?) with the ROTD ROM to rebuild the MVS cart and sell it on? Is that anywhere near the crux of it?

ViolentStorm
04-06-2013, 05:09 AM
Metal Slug 1 and Neo Turf Masters for sure. I see those everywhere. There's always some on eBay too.

I agree the first Metal Slug has to be the most common bootleg going.

Late
04-06-2013, 05:11 AM
Ninja Master's

snk_is_now
04-27-2013, 09:18 AM
Anyone have seen SENGOKU 2 or SSpirits IV amakusa's revenge??? Are those common bootlegs??

NeoGeoNinja
04-27-2013, 10:27 AM
Anyone have seen SENGOKU 2 or SSpirits IV amakusa's revenge??? Are those common bootlegs??
Not at all, at least, not the Japanese versions as there is not enough money to be made in them vs the conversion & counterfeiting process.

It's usually the 500+ titles you have to be wary of when it comes to JP games. Don't know enough about the US market/titles though...

Evil Wasabi
04-27-2013, 11:27 AM
Metal Slug 1, obviously.
Metal Slug X
Twinkle star Sprites
Blazing Star
Totenou 4

AlecRob
04-27-2013, 01:23 PM
Speaking of metal slug 1 bootlegs...

How many legit copies are actually in existence? Does anybody know?

wyndcrosser
04-29-2013, 11:37 PM
Hysterical gift? Don't think I've ever received one of those. Also, what's the deal with PPL bootlegging MVS carts?! I'm presuming it's something to do with using the original MVS ROMS for an AES conversion and then using some cheap (out of my depth here!) reprogrammed ROMS or EPROMS(?) with the ROTD ROM to rebuild the MVS cart and sell it on? Is that anywhere near the crux of it?

Sounds about right to me.

Green Beret
04-30-2013, 04:04 PM
Speaking of metal slug 1 bootlegs...

How many legit copies are actually in existence? Does anybody know?
This is a good question!! If somebody knows about how many were made, is very interesting.

totoro
05-01-2013, 05:42 AM
This is a good question!! If somebody knows about how many were made, is very interesting.

Nobody is going to reveal this.
It's part of the mystery

iNeogeo2nd
05-03-2013, 03:26 PM
How about Big Tournament Golf?

Edmond Dantes
08-28-2013, 05:26 AM
Are the Fatal Fury or World Heroes games ever bootlegged?

Should I be suspicious of any game going for less than $200 on eBay?

hyper
08-28-2013, 07:52 AM
those are sac carts

Edmond Dantes
08-28-2013, 11:10 AM
So if I buy an AES World Heroes or Fatal Fury, its more likely to be legit?

(Those are some of the first games I intend to grab, that's why I'm asking)

hyper
08-28-2013, 11:19 AM
yea those are low dollar common carts

Arcade Magician
08-29-2013, 12:06 AM
bootlegs or conversions, I don't think I've seen legitimate AES bootlegs, that aren't conversions. Conversions and bootlegs are definitely different lol.
Good point. I would like to see an 100% bootleg... board, PROMs or EPROMs, case... etc.

Jerebko85
02-15-2014, 10:08 AM
expensives game that make a conversion or bootleg for me is metal slug jp version and blazing star

Shogeki
03-20-2014, 07:10 PM
You can only tell if a AES cart has EPROMs by its weight, or by opening it. Neither of those can be done through an eBay purchase.

Most people here lump them all together unfortunately, but an EPROM filled AES cart is definitely worse than one with Mask ROMs.

I once opened a Japanese bootlegged AES Twinkle with flash roms in it (fitted on adapters). It weighted exactly the same as the regular cart (maybe it was a few grams off but the difference was hardly noticeable.)

The game was sold as an original and came with offset an printed manual/sticker and insert, making me think that it was more than just a simple conversion made from a bootleg.

It made sense to me since the MVS for this game can be pricy (especially in Japan).

My friend had no clue it was fake until he put it up for sale and a potential buyer asked him to open the game :(

HMG
03-20-2014, 07:57 PM
I never mentioned flash memory on adapters, those are always something to consider. I don't often see AES boots using them though. Most people pick the cheaper EPROM over flash.

skate323k137
03-20-2014, 08:02 PM
Are the Fatal Fury or World Heroes games ever bootlegged?

Should I be suspicious of any game going for less than $200 on eBay?

You should be suspicious of any game on ebay, period.

vincewy
03-23-2014, 05:33 PM
Speaking of metal slug 1 bootlegs...

How many legit copies are actually in existence? Does anybody know?

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?247676-Aes-Production-run-numbers

and drama alarm will go off ........

RetroGiga68k
03-29-2014, 08:25 PM
Any ideas on, what's the bootleg risk these days, of purchasing a JP Last Blade 2 for AES from eBay sellers in Japan?

GohanX
03-30-2014, 12:58 AM
Very high.

aha2940
03-30-2014, 09:58 PM
Hi

I recently got KoF 2000, but unfortunately it's a bootleg. I'm posting its pictures because it's not the usual boot with EPROMs or anything, see for yourself:

12655

12656

Regards.

Hubes22
04-03-2014, 01:51 AM
Hey everyone. I was wondering if anyone has purchased any AES games from this person on Ebay? I just began collecting the AES games and have found a lot of useful information on this site. I must say I'm very leery about shelling out a bunch of cash on the more expensive games when fakes are running around. Can you guys give me your opinion on this and let me know if you believe it to be legit? I know there are no pictures of the boards but any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251482050365?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

This user is also selling 3 and 4. Any input on those as well would be greatly appreciated.

HMG
04-03-2014, 03:50 PM
If that 2 is fake, it's the best fake I've seen yet. The manual is a little suspicious but otherwise that 2 looks reasonably sound. Still you should ask for board pics.

His Slug 3 and 4 also look good. 3 in particular looks to have a PROGLBA board, you can't easily fake that, so it's probably real. I wouldn't expect someone to bootleg 4...

Hubes22
04-03-2014, 07:12 PM
Thanks for checking these out. He is not willing to open the carts but did say he would give me 5 days after receiving them to get them checked out. He is going to email some high-res pictures tonight or tomorrow.

MartyFmTowns
08-28-2014, 10:50 AM
what are the differences of fake version of double dragon euro with the original?

Evil Wasabi
08-28-2014, 11:12 AM
Metal Slug 1, obviously.
Metal Slug X
Twinkle star Sprites
Blazing Star
Totenou 4


I have come from the future to amend my statement to reflect BTG, and I believe Sengoku 2001 should be on the list as well.

dondi
08-28-2014, 11:56 AM
guys, don't forget "The Ultimate 11 - Super Sidekicks 4". it's a good example for a con/boot. look on ebay, just for kicks... -.-

Evil Wasabi
08-28-2014, 12:16 PM
Totenou 4 is Ultimate 11.

GohanX
08-28-2014, 02:38 PM
Aero Fighters 3

Evil Wasabi
08-28-2014, 02:42 PM
Aero Fighters 3


So you're saying it was an official home cart release?

DeusVult
08-28-2014, 03:35 PM
you can get a partial look inside, not much but I guess it all helps, I got AES pulstar and there was no way I wanted to open it up, everything looks good but you never know, you can get a gap and look into one of the boards , I used a torch and magnifying glass its the solder side unfortunately but all the solder looked good and you can compare against scans to tell if the right amount of pins are there, also on the rear if you tilt the vents right you can see in again this one shows even less but may show something on certain games that should or should not be there

GohanX
08-28-2014, 03:37 PM
So you're saying it was an official home cart release?

Sure. Also, I have some land on the moon for sale, interested?

Evil Wasabi
08-28-2014, 05:33 PM
Sure. Also, I have some land on the moon for sale, interested?


The game has to have had an official release in order to have bootleg copies.

GohanX
08-29-2014, 02:56 PM
I think the joke flew right over your head.

Evil Wasabi
08-29-2014, 03:05 PM
I think the joke flew right over your head.


I understood what you were getting at, but it was ignorant of the requisite elements of a bootleg.

DaytimeDreamer
08-29-2014, 03:43 PM
I am always lurking ebay ... though I always tend to be very suspicious on games like Ninja Masters for example.

So let's speak with real world examples. Right know there are these Ninja Masters AES on ebay

From seller Hit Japan:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEO-GEO-AES-NINJA-MASTERS-Masters-SNK-neogeo-Import-JAPAN-Video-Game-1842-/301282590000?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4625d77d30

From seller VideoGameImports:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ninja-Masters-NeoGeo-AES-Ninja-Masters-Japan-JPN-SNK-Neo-Geo-VGC-ORIGINAL-GAME-/271521587935?pt=UK_PC_Video_Games_Video_Games_JS&hash=item3f37f2a2df

From seller NeoAgeStore:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEO-GEO-AES-NINJA-MASTERS-JAPAN-IMPORT-/321499815121?pt=Console_Giochi&hash=item4adae1dcd1

From JapanRetroGameAndToys (what a name!)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NINJA-MASTERS-SNK-Neo-Geo-AES-JAPAN-Near-Mint-Condition-/400721663303?pt=FR_Jeux_Vid%C3%A9o&hash=item5d4cdf5547

Are all of these conversions or fakes in your opinion? I've never ever bought a neo aes game from ebay. Only these forums and some UK related forums (Bordersdown, etc)

CORY
08-29-2014, 04:34 PM
i happen to be the owner of a bootleg rage of the dragons MVS cart!

You mean, RAGE OF THE FROGOTS, right? :keke:


I am always lurking ebay ... though I always tend to be very suspicious on games like Ninja Masters for example.

So let's speak with real world examples. Right know there are these Ninja Masters AES on ebay

From seller Hit Japan:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEO-GEO-AES-NINJA-MASTERS-Masters-SNK-neogeo-Import-JAPAN-Video-Game-1842-/301282590000?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4625d77d30

From seller VideoGameImports:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ninja-Masters-NeoGeo-AES-Ninja-Masters-Japan-JPN-SNK-Neo-Geo-VGC-ORIGINAL-GAME-/271521587935?pt=UK_PC_Video_Games_Video_Games_JS&hash=item3f37f2a2df

From seller NeoAgeStore:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEO-GEO-AES-NINJA-MASTERS-JAPAN-IMPORT-/321499815121?pt=Console_Giochi&hash=item4adae1dcd1

From JapanRetroGameAndToys (what a name!)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NINJA-MASTERS-SNK-Neo-Geo-AES-JAPAN-Near-Mint-Condition-/400721663303?pt=FR_Jeux_Vid%C3%A9o&hash=item5d4cdf5547

Are all of these conversions or fakes in your opinion? I've never ever bought a neo aes game from ebay. Only these forums and some UK related forums (Bordersdown, etc)

I highly recommend you stay away from any expensive AES cart coming from Japan or France. I'd say wait for an old timer to sell his copy on here if you want to be sure. You have no idea how real the frogot boots look nowadays, it's fucking sad :(

kuze
08-29-2014, 05:41 PM
You mean, RAGE OF THE FROGOTS, right? :keke:



I highly recommend you stay away from any expensive AES cart coming from Japan or France. I'd say wait for an old timer to sell his copy on here if you want to be sure. You have no idea how real the frogot boots look nowadays, it's fucking sad :(

I'll never get into AES stuff, but it would be interesting to see pics of how good those boots really look.

andsuchisdeath
08-29-2014, 06:05 PM
Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems uncommon for these high volume sellers to receive negative feedback for selling conversions.

Of course a large percentage of the customer base is ignorant and or complacent with owning boots though.

On a different note, I'm surprised there aren't scumbags leaving negative feedback screaming "bootleg" when they're getting the real thing (doing a swap). I've never hustled anyone on ebay, but with the way ebay works today it sounds like it's pretty easy.

SNKorSWM
08-29-2014, 10:24 PM
If they give the seller a neg, they're just gonna get blocked from further auctions by that seller, and negs only count towards feedback percentage within a year. Feedback sabotage is not very effective.

SNKorSWM
08-29-2014, 10:29 PM
Without provenance, all those ebay auctions aren't any good for those who want the genuine stuff.

totoro
08-31-2014, 03:41 AM
I'll never get into AES stuff, but it would be interesting to see pics of how good those boots really look.


Wolf had open a thread with a US metal slug 2 boot...
Search a bit and you will find it.

pulstar
08-31-2014, 04:34 AM
I am always lurking ebay ... though I always tend to be very suspicious on games like Ninja Masters for example.

So let's speak with real world examples. Right know there are these Ninja Masters AES on ebay

From seller Hit Japan:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEO-GEO-AES-NINJA-MASTERS-Masters-SNK-neogeo-Import-JAPAN-Video-Game-1842-/301282590000?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4625d77d30

From seller VideoGameImports:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ninja-Masters-NeoGeo-AES-Ninja-Masters-Japan-JPN-SNK-Neo-Geo-VGC-ORIGINAL-GAME-/271521587935?pt=UK_PC_Video_Games_Video_Games_JS&hash=item3f37f2a2df

From seller NeoAgeStore:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEO-GEO-AES-NINJA-MASTERS-JAPAN-IMPORT-/321499815121?pt=Console_Giochi&hash=item4adae1dcd1

From JapanRetroGameAndToys (what a name!)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NINJA-MASTERS-SNK-Neo-Geo-AES-JAPAN-Near-Mint-Condition-/400721663303?pt=FR_Jeux_Vid%C3%A9o&hash=item5d4cdf5547

Are all of these conversions or fakes in your opinion? I've never ever bought a neo aes game from ebay. Only these forums and some UK related forums (Bordersdown, etc)

Honestly, I think in some cases it's really hard to tell a boot from an original with (not particularly hi-res) pictures of the cart/manual/case to go on. JapanRetroGameAndToys in particular has 1 picture that is not in a very high resolution. Would you try and sell an item for almost 1k with just one picture unless you wanted people not to notice something? It might be geniune, but I certainly wouldn't try to sell it that way if it was original.

cr8zykuban0
09-05-2014, 10:01 PM
Are the Fatal Fury or World Heroes games ever bootlegged?

Should I be suspicious of any game going for less than $200 on eBay?

I wouldn't think so since the early released fatal fury and world heroes games are so cheap and easy to find unlike games like mark of the wolves and metal slug

cr8zykuban0
09-05-2014, 10:03 PM
but from what I've seen, metal slug 1 and 2 are the most common bootlegs that exist from what I have seen on ebay.

call me crazy but I honestly would mind owning a professional made aes conversion cart. does anyone own a conversion? has anyone had any issues with them?

andsuchisdeath
09-09-2014, 04:46 PM
call me crazy but I honestly would mind owning a professional made aes conversion cart. does anyone own a conversion? has anyone had any issues with them?

You're cr8zy and if naitch saw your sig he'd chop your chest until it's worn out.

Pasky
09-09-2014, 05:13 PM
EDIT:

Just realized this was AES, I listed mvs boots. bleh

RAZO
10-17-2014, 08:14 PM
but from what I've seen, metal slug 1 and 2 are the most common bootlegs that exist from what I have seen on ebay.

call me crazy but I honestly would mind owning a professional made aes conversion cart. does anyone own a conversion? has anyone had any issues with them?

I've owned two conversions is the past, Kizuna Encounter and Ninja Masters. I purchased them out of curiosity, I wanted to know how well they stood up to a original game. Both games were very well done but had noticeable flaws. The insert paper that the seller used was not like the original and the print quality was not as sharp. The manual pages were not cut correctly so some pages were longer than others. Both games played fine and both game stickers looked pretty good. I never opened the cart to see how it looked inside but the seller told me he used original mask roms from mvs carts:confused:.

SNKorSWM
10-17-2014, 11:16 PM
The only conversion I bought, knowing they were conversions, were Ironclad and Bang Bang Busters. No idea how they compare to an original, since those are protos that only hoarders have.

RAZO
10-17-2014, 11:31 PM
The only conversion I bought, knowing they were conversions, were Ironclad and Bang Bang Busters. No idea how they compare to an original, since those are protos that only hoarders have.

Is there such a thing as a legit Ironclad?



http://www.ebay.com/itm/111486914140?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Check out this guy. Is he serious? :lol: Pretty soon we'll see samsho 3 conversions.

SNKorSWM
10-18-2014, 12:36 AM
SNKP probably still has it.

HMG
10-18-2014, 02:54 AM
Is there such a thing as a legit Ironclad?



http://www.ebay.com/itm/111486914140?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Check out this guy. Is he serious? :lol: Pretty soon we'll see samsho 3 conversions.

That mutation nation is so wrong. Why does it have a warning sticker? Why does it exist?!

suicidekiller
10-18-2014, 07:37 AM
Why does it exist?!

Because some fuckheads actually support this guy :oh_no:

http://www.ebay.de/sch/neooldstore/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc

Green Beret
10-19-2014, 01:31 AM
Because some fuckheads actually support this guy :oh_no:

http://www.ebay.de/sch/neooldstore/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc
This is tragic. He will fill the world with shit

snk_is_now
11-30-2014, 11:41 AM
Chances for the next ones...

Real bout fatal fury

The last blade 1

Sengoku 2

all Aes Jap, what are the chances for these titles to be bootleged?

regards!

GregN
02-18-2015, 03:25 AM
Unfortunately, my Money Puzzle Exchanger MVS is a boot. I don't know how common that one is.

Hasuki-san
02-18-2015, 06:01 AM
Unfortunately, my Money Puzzle Exchanger MVS is a boot. I don't know how common that one is.

not very common since the game is not that popular

SNKorSWM
02-18-2015, 10:45 PM
You'll have to be patient to hunt down an authentic cart of Money Puzzle Exchanger at a reasonable price. Years ago there was this otaku.com that kept churning out AES conversions of rare games like MPE and Pochi & Nyaa. They must have cannibalized dozens of mvs carts.

Opethian
02-20-2015, 09:00 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AERO-FIGHTERS-3-NEO-GEO-AES-/111603046312

If they bothered to make a conversion does it validate it being real to begin with?

SNKorSWM
02-20-2015, 09:43 PM
At least Sonic Wings 3 is real.

itsofrustratin
05-28-2015, 08:03 PM
You mean, RAGE OF THE FROGOTS, right? :keke:



I highly recommend you stay away from any expensive AES cart coming from Japan or France. I'd say wait for an old timer to sell his copy on here if you want to be sure. You have no idea how real the frogot boots look nowadays, it's fucking sad :(

Shit, I didnt think buying from Japan would be so risky..france and other european ya, i basically write those off. I was thinking of buying a copy of Last blade AES from Japan and bringing it over, but im starting to have second thoughts. I figured conversions were mostly a problem for $500+ since a conversion typically costs a couple hundred bucks to make.

gum_drops
05-28-2015, 09:51 PM
I am not aware of last blade 1 jp being bootlegged yet but who knows. I would feel much safer purchasing that than some of the cars that are infamous for boots like pulstar or shock troopers 2.

itsofrustratin
05-30-2015, 10:12 AM
are there alot of Garou conversions out there?

gum_drops
05-30-2015, 11:18 AM
Yep. Maybe not converted as much as other titles but I have seen listed on feebay.

itsofrustratin
05-30-2015, 03:24 PM
That sucks, Ill probably just stay away from any $500 plus carts on ebay... fuck that noise.

What about last blade 2? Its kind of on the border of the value point where selling a conversion would be worth it.

itsofrustratin
06-02-2015, 03:54 PM
is Waku Waku 7 commonly bootlegged ?

gum_drops
06-02-2015, 06:11 PM
I don't recall seeing any of waku 7 or Last Blade 2, but yea both are high enough now that either could be candidates.

HMG
06-02-2015, 06:59 PM
Any Garou MOTW "conversions" on eBay will no doubt be bootlegs with EPROMs and Flash on adapters instead of real Mask ROMs. MOTW MVS carts and AES donors are too expensive to make it viable. With Flash, it's possible to use a fully decrypted Garou ROM set on a plain CHA512 / PROGBK1 combo, of which there's donors aplenty.

itsofrustratin
06-02-2015, 08:42 PM
Yea Waku 7s is hovering in the 600-700 range so it does make it viable. Its MVS counterpart isnt overly common or cheap either so that would make it more difficult. Plus the relatively obscure nature of the game would probably make it a less tempting target. But if someone can make a few bucks, they will. Theres a waku waku 7 for sale on the bay right now, no pics of the cart at all just an artwork photo...super sketchy

ShootTheCore
06-03-2015, 06:28 PM
Sometime I'd like to see someone proudly post a complete Neo Geo collection of all bootleg titles. Amusing that some games like Waku 7 and Garou aren't conversions "yet", so that makes them rare, Rare, RARE for those Ebay bootleg collectors! Time to fire up the ol' EPROM burner.... :keke:

HMG
06-04-2015, 01:12 AM
Should I show off my Fatal Fury Special AES bootleg, or no?

itsofrustratin
06-04-2015, 03:28 PM
I think Garou will become a common bootleg soon enough, the Japanese version is going for $1000. Its a great game with a pretty box, its a very likely candidate.

klee123
09-27-2015, 09:06 PM
How likely are bootlegs of Japanese versions of Metal Slug 3 AES nowadays?

Yagyu Jubei
09-27-2015, 09:29 PM
How likely are bootlegs of Japanese versions of Metal Slug 3 AES nowadays?

They're already out there.

wyndcrosser
09-29-2015, 08:42 AM
http://www.neooldstore.com/conversions/ Don't be fooled, they are mostly all eproms, not real conversions.

wyo
09-29-2015, 09:18 AM
http://33.media.tumblr.com/15de60c14afbe83f128223f0113e8fa3/tumblr_nti5265Grh1qj7u8ao2_500.gif

oliverclaude
09-29-2015, 12:04 PM
^^ The high-priced AES market is entirely based on that sort of angst, which allows "trusted" sellers to chime in and charge whatever comes to their streetwise brains. As if they were producing those boots themselves... wait a sec... but of course, why bother to be scenic? It's common practice ;).

GohanX
09-29-2015, 01:07 PM
Should I show off my Fatal Fury Special AES bootleg, or no?

lol wut? That's literally the cheapest home cart there is.

oliverclaude
09-30-2015, 12:40 PM
lol wut? That's literally the cheapest home cart there is.

He meant old Long John Silver's work ;). Check this post/thread. (http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?255639-Fatal-Fury-Special-and-World-Heroes&p=3824208&viewfull=1#post3824208)

itsofrustratin
10-01-2015, 09:42 PM
http://www.neooldstore.com/conversions/ Don't be fooled, they are mostly all eproms, not real conversions.

They are selling a Last blade conversion for 300 euros, you can easily find it on AES for that price lol.

Ren-chan
10-07-2015, 09:05 AM
They are selling a Last blade conversion for 300 euros, you can easily find it on AES for that price lol.

Cheapper.... and on Ebay, that's even better lol.

Liquid Snake
10-08-2015, 07:35 AM
http://www.neooldstore.com/conversions/ Don't be fooled, they are mostly all eproms, not real conversions.

Real conversion will cost more.......so whats wrong to get eproms if your intension is to buy "bootleg/conversion" in first place?

xsq
10-13-2015, 05:37 AM
If your intention is to buy a "bootleg/conversion", you obviously have no problem with at least one cart getting destroyed for the boards, shell and case.

oliverclaude
10-13-2015, 08:27 AM
Boards, shell & case are made in Canada. These are the so called organic-boots, as in no original cart is destroyed in the process. I am one of the lobbyists of DGE, you can have our data sheet by tomorrow morning your time. Thank you in advance for your interest.

DGE - The Future is Ours!

Hasuki-san
10-17-2015, 04:06 PM
Boards, shell & case are made in Canada. These are the so called organic-boots, as in no original cart is destroyed in the process. I am one of the lobbyists of DGE, you can have our data sheet by tomorrow morning your time. Thank you in advance for your interest.

DGE - The Future is Ours!
WTF are organic boots ? ;)

GohanX
10-17-2015, 04:54 PM
Boots made from the harvested corpses if dead hookers.

wyndcrosser
10-18-2015, 09:21 PM
Real conversion will cost more.......so whats wrong to get eproms if your intension is to buy "bootleg/conversion" in first place?

Oh, I have no intent, but he's charging high dollar for eproms... Warning you peeps.

dondi
10-19-2015, 01:17 PM
http://www.neooldstore.com/conversions/ Don't be fooled, they are mostly all eproms, not real conversions.

wtf, a RBFF2 Con? You've gotta be kidding me? A common cart with a common price!!! Why a Con/boot????

Liquid Snake
10-19-2015, 03:28 PM
wtf, a RBFF2 Con? You've gotta be kidding me? A common cart with a common price!!! Why a Con/boot????

still be a little bit cheaper..........right ? (wink wink)

bloodycelt
11-07-2015, 08:05 AM
Hi, I currently don't own an AES (But researching). Are there any Samurai Showdown AES games that I should be careful about in terms of it being a bootleg? (I tried to scan this forum up until last year, since it seems game prices have gone crazy lately. )

Thanks.

aha2940
11-07-2015, 03:10 PM
Hi, I currently don't own an AES (But researching). Are there any Samurai Showdown AES games that I should be careful about in terms of it being a bootleg? (I tried to scan this forum up until last year, since it seems game prices have gone crazy lately. )

Thanks.

I believe Samurai Shodown V and V Special are the only ones to care for. The rest are not that expensive to justify making a boot, especially Japanese versions.

Regards.

clubberlang
12-03-2015, 02:25 AM
And Samurai Shodown IV U.S. Aes too.

p3lagic
12-28-2015, 10:17 PM
I'm wondering what the crossover is between AES bootlegs and MVS bootlegs. Are there any games that are bootlegged often on one platform but the the other?

aha2940
12-29-2015, 08:23 AM
I'm wondering what the crossover is between AES bootlegs and MVS bootlegs. Are there any games that are bootlegged often on one platform but the the other?
Metal slug for instance, it seems all homecarts are fake, almost no MVS cart is fake.

xsq
12-29-2015, 03:15 PM
there are quite some MVS MS1 boot (http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?261209-Bootleg-Gallery-%28Pic-Heavy%29&p=3976280&viewfull=1#post3976280)s in my experience...

oliverclaude
12-29-2015, 07:38 PM
So you were scammed with that MS1 and now you've taken it personal... I see another '70s inspired anti-hero flick: a bit of death wish, a piece of walking tall, hell, it may even deliver the thrills. Serve mine bloody, please, with a slightly touch of dismemberment.

Bogard
12-29-2015, 08:23 PM
yes,metal slug on the aes. and the most bootlegged game on the mvs i have heard about is puzzle bobble. one guy on youtube bought five copies of the game before he came across an official snk cart.

xsq
12-30-2015, 04:01 PM
So you were scammed with that MS1 and now you've taken it personal... I see another '70s inspired anti-hero flick: a bit of death wish, a piece of walking tall, hell, it may even deliver the thrills. Serve mine bloody, please, with a slightly touch of dismemberment.
Sounds good, I'm in: "Sent it back - with a vengeance!"

madman
12-30-2015, 05:25 PM
there are quite some MVS MS1 boot (http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?261209-Bootleg-Gallery-%28Pic-Heavy%29&p=3976280&viewfull=1#post3976280)s in my experience...

Yes, they exist, but the title is readily available legit for a reasonable price on MVS.

itsofrustratin
01-04-2016, 09:00 AM
are there many NTM boots out there?

Liquid Snake
01-04-2016, 08:22 PM
are there many NTM boots out there?

Of course!

RumbleBumble
01-05-2016, 10:45 AM
How about the King of Fighters games on ebay etc? Are any of these expensive enough for them to be likely to be boots?

nhanphanhippo
01-05-2016, 12:55 PM
I think all the slug games are very common for boot. One of my college friends, who used to live in Japan, sold me all of his AES collection when he moved back to the US. There are lots of good games in his lot but the entire Metal Slug set is boot. From Slug 1 to 5 (including X). He didn't know they were boot until I asked him to open the carts and show me the boards prior sending the payment. He ended up throw all the boot Slugs in as a bonus for my lot. I have some board pics which I plan to post soon. They are not conversion as far as I can tell. They are straight up boot.

I also bummed into a dude at GameDude in Northern Hollywood, CA who begging me to trade my US MTW for his US SLUG 5. I believe his copy is also boot base on the quality of insert, manual, and label.

RumbleBumble
01-07-2016, 01:56 PM
Anyone know if ebay seller kleric13 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/kleric13/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=) is okay?