Do you think NGPC should have stuck it out?

bokmeow

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Because processor power isn't everything, but I'm not quite sure how many developers were staying with the NGPC at the end of its life cycle. We all know the story, NGPC was introduced to America and they wanted to focus on the portable gaming strategy, and it was actually doing fairly well although it is true it had almost no retail shelf presence. Just when the NGPC started to appear in retail shelf, SNK (Aruze?) announced the recall. Nintendo got the jump on NGPC everytime, with the release of Gameboy Color, and then the Gameboy Advance. Too coincidental? And like all developers the news predates the release

1989 Gameboy
1996 Gameboy pocket
October 1998 Neo Geo Pocket
November 1998 Gameboy Color
March 1999 Neo Geo Pocket Color
June 2001 Gameboy Advance SP

It is just ridiculously how short the timespan between the release of Gameboy Color and Gameboy Advance SP is. I think SNK decided to pull their support because they don't have quite as deep pocket as Nintendo or Bandai.

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Brittney

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I just remember owning a NGPC back in '99 and thinking, what do I have a Gameboy Color for? When it was just those two handhelds on the market, I thought the NGPC was an awesome improvement on anything being put out by Nintendo (games included).

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Kemps

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Yes; at least until CFC 2 and MOTM 2 came out in English. I still remember picking up the EGM issue where it had the article about it. SNK US got a new lease on a warehouse and 3rd party developers were starting to make games for it. It sounded as if the decision to pull out came out of nowhere. Damn, a SNK representative stated MOTM 2 was in the works. Can you imagine? MOTM with more characters, mini-games, cameos, and the engine of Gals Fighter... crying
 
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mr.nippy

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My view on this saga is very clear. At the time of the release of the NGP I was very excited about this, however I felt the console was too niche to stock in my shop. I noticed that even though I loved the machine, other stores here in the UK were having trouble getting people interested in them, after a while most of the Big stores reduced it to clear. The Final nail in the coffin was the Gameboy Color..pure and simple!

Now forward to summer 1999 the new NGPC was highly anticipated, thus I did strike a deal with suppliers to make sure I had it in my shop (small independant). I don't know how many of you are aware, but I had to go to Paris to pick up my first batch of Pocket Colors! As they were released in Europe just before the UK. A large fanbase quickly grew here in the UK, and not just the hardcore, but your average consumer also. Practically every game shop stocked the NGPC, and it WAS a runaway success! I personally couldn't get the deliveries fast enough!

For the sake of fact, to dispell any myths: the NGPC games were supplied by SNK - 12 games to a box! At the time, we had the release schedules at least four months in advance. Your supplier had to phone SNK Europe the day of launch for the games to be sent to your shop, thus making anticipation even higher. The maximum order was 4 boxes (4x12 games). We regularly had contact with SNK Europe, and they would fax or send us a rough schedule of titles coming soon. There's been so much speculation about the last titles, but it's quite simple (I personally had a chat on the phone with a contact at SNK at the time), as I said before each box shipped comprised 12 games, but they weren't always the same titles. The last games I remember recieving were about 2 dozen picture puzzle's, 2 dozen dynamite slugger's, Gal Fighters, Neo Baccarrat, and Cool Boarders. Shortly thereafter, I recieved the bad news by fax from SNK. It stated that I was to return all unsold NGPC games immediately, and inform my customer's that the NGPC was no longer. It stated that our shop would be compensated for our trouble to make it worth our while returning them! I actually was so pissed, I just returned the slow sellers (Casino series, and Biomotor's) and claimed that was all I had. I then stored the newly delivered titles in a cupboard and forgot about them for a whole year - then sold all of them for a killing! I liased with most of the Independant's at the time, and we all did the same thing! Hence why suddenly, the UK version of Pocket Reversi and others are starting to come on the market! It's also worth noting that my shop was in the same area as the suppliers warehouse, so what I'm saying is different regions of the UK got different batches of games - I know that in another part of town one shop got pure boxes of Evolution and Cool Boarders, which was rare in other areas! So I think that with Rare games such as Pocket Reversi there had to be at least 4 x 12 of them delivered somewhere in the UK because of the way SNK box them up! I have no doubt that all those US and Jap unboxed carts that have popped up lately are the same ones that our shops sent back to SNK 2 years ago, but I don't think any boxes will turn up for these - because in the fax I recieved it clearly stated they would be destroyed. As for all the speculation on the demise of NGPC, SNK were very nervous at hearing the news of the up and coming GBAdvance, the decision was made by SNK Japan to pull the plug on it, rather than risk prospective embarressment and bancruptcy if the NGPC got trounced by the new GBA. Very similar to what happened with the Dreamcast and SEGA. I personally think at the time thier fears were more than justified, but as history shows they shouldn't have believed the hype. Basically NINTENDO got pissed off with the NGPC, it definately stole the limelight from them for 18 months, so they fought back with Pokemon and new hardware. Nevertheless, you have to ask yourself: Is the NeoGeo Pocket Cool now (2 years after it's demise), because we now embrase all things retro, and the NGPC has showed itself to be a design classic in the world of gaming? Or..would it of happilly lived on side by side with the technically superior GameBoy Advance SP?...baring in mind how starry-eyed your average consumer get's over a new shiny product! loco


I hope now, Playmore will look into the prospect of revitalising the NGPC, I know from my contacts in the trade here in the UK it would be welcomed back with open arms, however there would have to be some kind of coallition with the dreaded Nintendo, in order to make it a commercial reality. :rolleyes:
 

bokmeow

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Wow, thanks for the insight from an independent retailer's point of view. It is quite true that Pokemon was the killer app for Nintendo at that time, when Nintendo wrote off Gameboy as at the end of its product cycle, and all of a sudden, a hobbyist that explored the link cable's capability to its fullest created Pokemon, then the rest was history. It is just truly astounding to me, though, is how they can still make so many iterations of Pokemon. First they had Red and Blue, then they had Yellow, then they had Gold and Silver, then they had Crystal, and now they have Ruby and Sapphire. How do they manage to still have such amazing preorders for this title? Aren't they just rehashes with a little bit more feature added, not the big deal for everyone to drool all over for? I know that is at least true when they made the transition from Red and Blue to Yellow, it was just you got Pikachu as your starting Pokemon, and Team Rocket made their appearance.
 
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mr.nippy

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Hey.....The Pokemon thing is ridiculous to us adults right? Not to the kids tho, I personally think it's a load of b*ll%ks, but I reckon I must deal with on average 150-300 customers a week, and 90% of those customers only ever ask for what they have heard about! For example: Tomb Raider/Sonic/Mario/Pokemon etc etc. It's just another form of corporate brainwashing. The problem with all these great systems such as NGPC/Neo AES/MVS/Hyper 64/SEGA Dreamcast, is they have failed because they are too good! By that I mean every console manufactuer nowadays is acutely aware that the only way to have a successfull product is to saturate the market with 90% crap games/licenses. Unfortunately this method is nowadays fundamental to achieving financial success, how else would large companies be able to afford three years developing a grade "A" title without a constant income flooding in from all the dire kidies / film licensed games. Its a shame, I know, but this is precisely how it runs! So look forward to Pokemon Earth & Air before long! Can you imagine if SNK had of used this approach though?......"Bat and Ball Pocket" "Neo Men In Black" "Neo Tetris, part 28.5 turbo - deluxe - special edition - ...2!!

I just wished SNK had time to finish the Pocket Windjammers that was in production! loco
 

evil wasabi

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Yeah... And KoF R-3 too while we're there. :rolleyes:

Anyway there was also Pokémon Green version... But that one was a Jap only release.
 

Illusion

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mr.nippy:
Hey.....The Pokemon thing is ridiculous to us adults right? Not to the kids tho, I personally think it's a load of b*ll%ks, but I reckon I must deal with on average 150-300 customers a week, and 90% of those customers only ever ask for what they have heard about! For example: Tomb Raider/Sonic/Mario/Pokemon etc etc. It's just another form of corporate brainwashing. The problem with all these great systems such as NGPC/Neo AES/MVS/Hyper 64/SEGA Dreamcast, is they have failed because they are too good! By that I mean every console manufactuer nowadays is acutely aware that the only way to have a successfull product is to saturate the market with 90% crap games/licenses. Unfortunately this method is nowadays fundamental to achieving financial success, how else would large companies be able to afford three years developing a grade "A" title without a constant income flooding in from all the dire kidies / film licensed games. Its a shame, I know, but this is precisely how it runs! So look forward to Pokemon Earth & Air before long! Can you imagine if SNK had of used this approach though?......"Bat and Ball Pocket" "Neo Men In Black" "Neo Tetris, part 28.5 turbo - deluxe - special edition - ...2!!

I just wished SNK had time to finish the Pocket Windjammers that was in production! loco
Im 14,but never bought a single Pokemon game.When I had my gameboy color I was getting gameslike Spy Vs. Spy, and most of the rpgs.I got a NGPC a few days ago. :cool:
 

bokmeow

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Im 14,but never bought a single Pokemon game.When I had my gameboy color I was getting gameslike Spy Vs. Spy, and most of the rpgs.I got a NGPC a few days ago. :cool:
Spy vs. Spy is a rocking game, the console also had a few cool RPGs, I was a big fan of the Final Fantasy Adventures, they are quite the shizznit.
 

honeyman

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I miss what could have become of the NGPC. It had a high ratio of quality games for it and I still play it today (I want to find KOF Quiz:Battle De Paradise before I return home from Japan.)

At the moment I own (all English unless stated):-

SNK vs Capcom:MOTM
Cardfighters 1 & 2 (2 is Jap)
Last Blade
Samurai Showdown 2
KOF R-2
Biomotor Unitron
Metal Slug 1st Mission
Rockman:Battle and Fighters
Sonic Pocket Adventure

If anyone can recommend any of the other NGPC titles for me I would appreciate it.

Thanks wink !
 

Dean

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Honeyman, if you find Nigeronpa in Japan, get one for me and for yourself.
I'm serious.
 

honeyman

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Could you run that title by me again as I`ve never heard of this title before.When I get a chance I`ll be going to Osakaagain and hopefully at some point going to visit my friend in Tokyo before I return home. If you can tell me a little about the game I can have a better idea of wht to look for.

CHEERS! wink !
 

beelzebubble

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osaka doesnt have much at all in the way of ngpc unfortunately... i recently checked about 10 local shops plus walked the length of the electronics district and only came up with a MOTM, kof r-2 and 50 copies of slots games or hanabi. in the end i ordered online and all up i got a perfect condition ngpc with box etc for 1000 yen, a boxed decent condition sam sho for 1000 yen and a cart and clear case only version of last blade for 600 yen...
 
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