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Brittney

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So if there supposedly are US version counterparts that exist (although cart only) for some of the rare UK releases, how do you think they should be valued? Clearly the US releases without the packaging should be lower, but what happens to the people who've lost the packaging :confused: to their rare UK games? Surely it won't come to minor spelling differences within the games that creates a higher value for UK vs. US carts since the games are basically identical. I know Samurai Showdown UK version has spelling differences (which shows how much effort SNK put into the releases), but are there any more differences in the UK vs US versions?
 
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Comic-Kaze

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I think the English is pretty much verbatim. It's just the game cart labels that is different. Any game that has lost it's packaging has basically lost all collector's value and will sell for pretty cheaply on ebay except for those who truely buy the games purely for playing.
 
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What Comic-Kaze says, the completeness will still make the difference in the very end. Although there can be no doubting the authenticity of these US carts, no official word was handed down from SNK Neo Geo Hong Kong or Playmore, it will forever be a bastard product of SNK since there is little evidence that any packaging was ever made for it and much doubt that any will ever surface, and if they do its authenticity is probably even more suspect than that Gameboy Color Metal Slug 2nd Mission :D
 
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Ahchay

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Using Faselei as an example, but the same logic applies to Last Blade et al.

There is a difference between a US Faselei without packaging and a UK Faselei without packaging though...

UK Faselei was on sale for something like six months before Aruze pulled the NPGC off the shelves. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of them out there. And, yes, without packaging they would lose a lot of their value.

But the US carts never *had* packaging. So, you can effectively argue that a US Faselei (or whatever) without packaging *is* complete.

Does anyone have *any* idea of the numbers of these (bare) cartridges that exist? There's a bit of a glut on the market at the moment (as the importers raid the SNK-HK warehouses) but I'd be surprised if we're talking of as many as 500 of each cart. If this is the case, then an unboxed US Faselei is, in fact, rarer than a boxed UK version...

That's the way I see it anyway...

Of course, that's not taking into account the number of people who buy the UK games for the purtyness of the clamshell boxes. So rareness does not necessarily equate to value.

Cheers
Chris
 
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Metal Slug

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The bare cart versions are a cheap alternative to the much more desirable Uk hardcased versions, but not really a lot more than that.
Lets face it, in years to come the UK versions will obviously be more collectable, nicer and easier to display.

Personally, I'd much rather have a Jap re-release of Last Blade with a box and manual, than a bare cart of any bloody type.

I suppose its different with Faselei because the Jap ver does not support English, so is pretty much unplayable.
I think basically these loose carts are more of a curiosity than a real collectable.
I think most collectors will buy the UK ver first and then pick these up as an after-thought.

So, Nice to have, if you are a player then they are a great way to get expensive games a lot cheaper, if you're a collector then possibly not.
 
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Metal Slug:
The bare cart versions are a cheap alternative to the much more desirable Uk hardcased versions, but not really a lot more than that.
Lets face it, in years to come the UK versions will obviously be more collectable, nicer and easier to display.

Personally, I'd much rather have a Jap re-release of Last Blade with a box and manual, than a bare cart of any bloody type.

I suppose its different with Faselei because the Jap ver does not support English, so is pretty much unplayable.
I think basically these loose carts are more of a curiosity than a real collectable.
I think most collectors will buy the UK ver first and then pick these up as an after-thought.

So, Nice to have, if you are a player then they are a great way to get expensive games a lot cheaper, if you're a collector then possibly not.
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Even without English, the Japanese version of Faselei can actually be quite playable. I remember playing through the game and even though I know Japanese, the only thing I needed Japanese for had been reading my equipment or the stuff I pick up, but the rest of the gameplay is just programming your chips and what not. If you know what the chips do, you're supposed to be able to play Faselei. All the accessories and weapons do have pictures and stat values, but it is nice being able to read the story, because Sacnoth games are all about the awesome story.
 
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Ahchay:
Using Faselei as an example, but the same logic applies to Last Blade et al.

There is a difference between a US Faselei without packaging and a UK Faselei without packaging though...

UK Faselei was on sale for something like six months before Aruze pulled the NPGC off the shelves. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of them out there. And, yes, without packaging they would lose a lot of their value.

But the US carts never *had* packaging. So, you can effectively argue that a US Faselei (or whatever) without packaging *is* complete.

Does anyone have *any* idea of the numbers of these (bare) cartridges that exist? There's a bit of a glut on the market at the moment (as the importers raid the SNK-HK warehouses) but I'd be surprised if we're talking of as many as 500 of each cart. If this is the case, then an unboxed US Faselei is, in fact, rarer than a boxed UK version...

That's the way I see it anyway...

Of course, that's not taking into account the number of people who buy the UK games for the purtyness of the clamshell boxes. So rareness does not necessarily equate to value.

Cheers
Chris
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I agree with you ahchay it all depends how many US cart are out their....
 
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