Fatal Fury 3 MVS freezing glitch: I need some help! *Problem solved*

I've been playing FF3 on my Phantom-1 and it keeps on freezing every time I beat the final boss. First, the ending starts and it shows the boss laying on the ground followed by a "this isn't over" type story. The screen then fades to black and the same pic shows back up with 'Jsjsjsjsjsjs written underneath it. The only thing it will let me do is pause, but that's it. What could be the problem?

<small>[ May 30, 2003, 06:17 AM: Message edited by: Earthquake ]</small>

Hmmm..This may be a boot..

How does the boards look.,any Eproms.?

Everything looks clean and original from what I can see. The only thing I noticed was that only one of the chips on the first board says Toshiba. The one at the top on the left side.

Is this normal? BTW, the freezing happens right after I defeat the boss that comes after Yamazaki; the first little guy in pink. I don't think this will have an impact on my issue, but I thought I'd throw it in just in case it does.

Shoot..I don't have this game yet..I was going to open mine to compare it too.

We need someone to verify if this is a real cart or if this is a Phantom 1 issue.

I do know that kof99 had a protection system that would lock the game after beating the boss (just before winning story text would show). Maybe fatfury3 has something simular.

Raz

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I'm pretty sure you mean this. I get this with my home cart. It seems that it occurs most often when you don't fulfill the criteria to meet the last boss, Jin Chonrei. I've no clue as to why it happens.

Razoola:
I do know that kof99 had a protection system that would lock the game after beating the boss (just before winning story text would show). Maybe fatfury3 has something simular.

Raz

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And what triggers that protection? The fact that the game is used in MVS format in an AES through a Phantom?
In any case I have both games in MVS and they both work OK in my 1-slot. If I don't fulfill the conditions to fight the true last boss in FF3 the game just ends but it doesn't freeze.

<small>[ May 29, 2003, 05:10 AM: Message edited by: Amano Jacu ]</small>

Clear Paper:
I'm pretty sure you mean this. I get this with my home cart. It seems that it occurs most often when you don't fulfill the criteria to meet the last boss, Jin Chonrei. I've no clue as to why it happens.

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If this is the case then it is surely a game bug unless your using the AES cart in the MVS. If so I'd say this is more protection.

Raz

It was straight AES cart in AES machine. I've come across all the different endings too, three I think. I reckon it's a bug.

Clear Paper:
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I'm pretty sure you mean this. I get this with my home cart. It seems that it occurs most often when you don't fulfill the criteria to meet the last boss, Jin Chonrei. I've no clue as to why it happens.

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That's exactly what happens. I get AA rankings most of the time so is there a higher ranking? Also, I always use my memory card when playing. Could that be a problem also? I'm gonna go give the game a try without saving and see how things go.

Maybe it's finally time to get a Super Nova setup and a 1-slot... help

<small>[ May 29, 2003, 04:37 PM: Message edited by: Earthquake ]</small>

I'm sure you can get AAA rankings, and I think even S rankings.

OK, I just finished the game with Andy without using my MC save. It took me about 6 continues so I got a horrible ranking. I was even playing on level 1 for crying out loud. After I beat Yamazaki, I got this story about needing to improve my skills and then the game ended, but it didn't freeze.

Could it have been a MC problem all along? I'll see if I can get a higher ranking next time to see if it still freezes. To tell you the truth though, I don't really like FF3 much at all. The overly aggressive AI on the later stages almost ruins it for me.

<small>[ May 29, 2003, 06:06 PM: Message edited by: Earthquake ]</small>

It appears it was a memory card bug all along. I finished the game again last night with Terry without using my card and got nothing but A-S rankings. After I beat the first Jin, I took on his brother without any problems.

My guess is that since I saved at the first Jin before and the card doesn't save rankings, the game would glitch since my ranking would start from scratch. Can anyone here confirm this?

<small>[ May 30, 2003, 06:34 AM: Message edited by: Earthquake ]</small>

Perhaps a corrupt file on the MC, can you erase it?

This is a well know bug in FF3.

In this game, you can get three 'degree' of ending.

1 - Just after beating Yamazaki
2 - after beating Jin Chonshuu
3 - after beating Jin Chonrei

The ending you get is clarely based on the level of your fighting performance throughout the game of course.

Now, when you meet the FIRST Jin brother (Chonshuu), the case if you're or not getting the second one as a final boss is determinated ALREADY. In fact, you maya ctually fight against Chonshuu in TWO different stages: 'actual' Delta Park (the one with woods and all the rest) or 'psycho' Delta Park (the one made by flames).

If you're in the first one, the game is already supposed to end after you beat Chonshuu, if you're in se second one, after beating Chonshuu, Chonrei is supposed to chanllenge you in a colour palette changed stage.

Now, for some reason, when you beat Chonshuu in the first case (thus leading to the ending), you get the beginning of the demo cut introducing Chonrei (which should NOT appear) and the game freeze in this bugged situation.

I don't know if this occur with all character or just with some of them.

Terry used to encounter thid bug in the MVS, AES or even emulation.

Dunno if ALL copy of the game are bugged or if latest copies were fixed, but I actually doubt about this second option.

Well, I have the same problem with my Fatal Fury 3, and I installed a Neo-Geo.com debug bios chip in my AES system, and after I beat Jin Chonrei, it freezes. It freezes at the screen where you see both of the Jins beaten and your character that you beat it with, with them. I know it does it when I put it in MVS mode. But, I never tried it in AES mode, because I can't beat FF3 within 4 credits, because I get my ass kicked on Gesse Howard, and it takes me more than 4 credits, jus' to beat him, I don't have a memory card, but my old one broke! Does anyone know how to fix this problem?