Ranking Cave Shooters

scgon

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Hoping to get some opinions

Could the people who have played the games rank them? Having only really played Progear CPS2 and Espgaluda 2 on my iPhone I don't really know where I want to go next, hoping this would help me and others.. thanks!!

Difficulty (at default settings I guess)
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5.

Fun
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5.

Value for Money
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
 

kernow

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Try some in Mame

Difficulty (at default settings I guess)
1. Ibara / DOJ
2.
3.
4.
5.

Fun
1. ESPGaluda
2.
3.
4.
5.

Value for Money
1. Ibara / Dodonpachi
2.
3.
4.
5.


Yeah I'm lazy
 

PinkSweets

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While I havn't played every single Cave shooter, I have played many of them. I think 12 or so. Of course, this is all opinion. The difficulty list is pretty hard to decide...I guess I'll go by bullet patterns, hit box, how many stages, how hard to 1cc etc.

Difficulty (at default settings I guess)
1. DoDonPachi DaiOuJou
2. Ibara (I personally found Ibara extremely fucking difficult and unforgiving)
3. Ketsui
4. Espgaluda series
5. Progear No Arashi

Fun
1. Mushihimesama Futari
2. DeathSmiles
3. DoDonPachi DaiOuJou
4. Ketsui
5. Progear No Arashi

Value for Money
1. DeathSmiles (US release will come with Black Label)
2. Mushihimesama Futari
3. Ketsui
4. DoDonPachi DaiOuJou
5. Espgaluda II

Sadly, I can't give an opinion on DDP DFK, PinkSweets, or Muchi Muchi Pork :crying:
 
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TonK

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From what I've played.

Difficulty (at default settings I guess)
1. DoDonPachi Dai Ou Jou
2. Ibara
3. Ketsui
4. Progear
5. DonPachi

Fun
1. Deathsmiles
2. ESPGaluda
3. Ketsui
4. Mushihimesama Futari
5. Muchi Muchi Pork

Value for Money
1. ESPGaluda
2. Ibara
3. Deathsmiles
4. DonPachi
5. DoDonPachi Dai Ou Jou
 

scgon

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thanks for the info and the fast responses so far.

Not sure I want to get into Mame, but I suppose a try before you buy approach is generally smart.
 

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I'm not good with objective lists- luckily, others whom opinions i respect have chimed in. I will say, subjectively, that mushihimesama futari for 360 hits the sweet spot for me. Region free, black label avail from xbl, a multitude of game modes, and impecable fit and finish. It has been a *long* time since a game has grabbed me this tight, and refused to let go.
 

PinkSweets

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Having only really played Progear CPS2 and Espgaluda 2 on my iPhone I don't really know where I want to go next
I'd say a good place to start is on an XBOX 360. (Depending which Cave shooters you want to play) So far the following have been released or announced if your not familiar. Cave game wise, Mushi Futari and DeathSmiles alone are definitely worth buying the system for.

DeathSmiles (NTSC-J. US version is dated June 29 as of today)
DeathSmiles IIX (NTSC-J)
DoDonPachi DaiOuJou Black Label X (NTSC-J)
ESPGALUDA2 (Region free)
Ketsui (NTSC-J)
Mushihimesama Futari (Region free)
Guwange (Summer 2010, I think. I'm sure any region can download it.)

I don't think I missed anything.

And then of course you have all the other shmups that have been out. Raiden Fighters Aces, Raystorm HD, Otomedius and so on.
 

scgon

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I'd say a good place to start is on an XBOX 360. (Depending which Cave shooters you want to play) So far the following have been released or announced if your not familiar. Cave game wise, Mushi Futari and DeathSmiles alone are definitely worth buying the system for.

DeathSmiles (NTSC-J. US version is dated June 29 as of today)
DeathSmiles IIX (NTSC-J)
DoDonPachi DaiOuJou Black Label X (NTSC-J)
ESPGALUDA2 (Region free)
Ketsui (NTSC-J)
Mushihimesama Futari (Region free)
Guwange (Summer 2010, I think. I'm sure any region can download it.)

I don't think I missed anything.

And then of course you have all the other shmups that have been out. Raiden Fighters Aces, Raystorm HD, Otomedius and so on.

yeah, well aware of the JP 360 releases, but generally would prefer to keep this to playing on a cab on PCB. Don't need to get a full collection or anything but have found the guidance and opinions so far to be very helpful.

Also didn't realize that the US Deathsmiles was so close to release, nice.
 

mmsadda

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I'm not well-versed in Cave like many here... just got my introduction recently. Of what I've played, here are my thoughts:

Difficulty (at default settings I guess)
1. DDP DOJ
2. Ibara
3. Muchi Muchi Pork
4. Ibara Black Label


Fun
1. ESPGaluda
2. Progear
3. Deathsmiles (probably would rank higher, I just didn't get enough of a chance to play it)
4. Ibara Black Label

Value for Money
1. Progear Bootleg (probably the only way to find this for a reasonable price is a boot/Phoenix version. Maybe the only way to find it period.)
2. ESPGaluda


I know this wasn't as complete a list as you're looking for. For what it's worth, I don't have a ton of experience with Cave shmups. Here's what I HAVE played:
DonPachi
DoDonPachi
Fever SOS
Progear
DOJ
Ketsui
Galuda
Ibara
Ibara Black Label
Muchi Muchi Pork
Death Smiles
 

mmsadda

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That's true, that game was rediculous hard, what with having to grab the falling people (iirc) that game IS obscenely hard.
 

subcons

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Dangun and Guwange would go in my fun list though...
 

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Difficulty (at default settings I guess)
1. Ibara
2. DDP Daifukatsu/DOJ
3. Ketsui
4.
5.

Fun
1. Espglauda II
2. Mushihimesama Futari
3. DoDonPachi
4. Guwange
5.

Value for Money
1. X360 ports unless you can afford/play PCBs
2.
3.
4.
5.

I might give Deathsmiles another go I really didnt care for it when it was originally released. Maybe the sequel will make me a fan.
 

alec

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just do like this:

1. your favorite

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....

last. your least favorite
 

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Difficulty (at default settings I guess)
1. Ketsui
2. Dodonpachi
3. Mushihime-sama Futari
4. Espgaluda
5. Deathsmiles 2

Fun
1. Deathsmiles
2. Deathsmiles 2
3. Mushihime-sama Futari
4. Espgaluda
5. Ketsui

Value for Money
1. Deathsmiles
2. Mushihime-sama Futari
3. Deathsmiles 2 (360 port)
4. Espgaluda
5. Dodonpachi
 

neo_mao

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Here's my list. Keep in mind, my answers are based off the ports, but perhaps they are still applicable to the pcbs

Difficulty (at default settings I guess)
1. Ibara
2. DDP DOJ
3. Espgaluda 2
4. Mushi Futari
5. Deathsmiles

Fun
1. Deathsmiles
2. Ketsui
3. Mushi Futari
4. DDP DOJ
5. Mushi

In terms of value for money, not really sure. I think most of the pcbs I listed are under $500, w/ the possible exception of DOJ (?)

Value for Money
1. DDP
2. Mushi
3. Espgaluda
4. Ibara
5. DDP DOJ
 

cools

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Just stuff I've owned.

Difficulty (at default settings I guess)
1. DoDonPachi Dai-Ou-Jou
2. Pink Sweets
3. Ibara
4. Mushimesama Futari 1.5
5. Espgaluda

Fun
1. Pink Sweets
2. Mushimesama Futari 1.5
3. Ibara
4. DoDonPachi Dai-Ou-Jou
5. Espgaluda

Value for Money
1. Ibara
2. Espgaluda
3. Pink Sweets
4. Mushimesama Futari 1.5
5. DoDonPachi Dai-Ou-Jou
 

cannonball

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Only commenting on games I own

Difficulty (at default settings I guess)
1. Ibara
2. DOJ
3. Espgaluda II
4. Progear
5. Mushihimesama
6. Espgaluda
7. Mushimesama Futari 1.5
8. Muchi Muchi Pork
9. DeathSmiles

Fun
1. Muchi Muchi Pork
2. DeathSmiles
3. Mushimesama Futari 1.5
4. Progear
5. Espgaluda II

Value
1. Mushihimesama Futari 1.5 (port)
2. DeathSmiles (port - I don't have the port but it will be a great value for money)
3. Espgaluda II (port)
 

kernow

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I can't tell if your question is serious or not, but yes, some do.
 

andsuchisdeath

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I can't tell if your question is serious or not, but yes, some do.

The question wasn't serious....but yeah the Yagawa games do. Obviously I don't play them much, otherwise that would have came to mind...and I wouldn't have made that lame joke.
 
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