Ketsui coming in April

genjiglove · Mar 11, 2010

http://kotaku.com/5490894/are-you-ready-for-ketsui-bullet-hell

Hopefully this is region free.

Saturn2dfreak · Mar 11, 2010

i cant afford a jap xbox 360..please god let it be region free

ookitarepanda · Mar 11, 2010

From Makoto Asada's blog (Exec Director at Cave), specifically written in English for his Western buddies:

http://cave-game.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2010/02/thank-you.html

I assure you that Espgaluda II Black Label Normal Edition will be the last region free game for the time being.

Also, it's 5pb, you really expect the port to be good?

elixir · Mar 11, 2010

No, it's not region free. (Every forum I visit.. I swear...)

A lot of people are going to be importing consoles just for this game.

Edit: Hey, it's nice to see that Kotaku is as slow and mediocre as ever. They're only a few months late this time.

genjiglove · Mar 11, 2010

I definitely will not be importing a JP 360 for this, especially considering the company that is porting this apparently doesn't have the strongest track record with this kind of thing. I'm only a casual shmup fan, not into them enough to spend hundreds of dollars to play one. But Ketsui looked interesting enough that I'd at least import it. Oh well, I'm sure I can find other shit to waste money on.

PinkSweets · Mar 11, 2010

Nobody should expect any more Cave games to be region free. They already said that Espgaluda2 was the last one. Don't get your hopes up for any future releases.

IcBlUsCrN · Mar 11, 2010

well i will be getting this for certain. i have not looked for any info but is it going to be like the ds port? just boss fights? I have the ds version but gave away my ds so cant play it.

i dont think 5pb will have the same issues as its last release, so not worried there. Plus i did not find it as bad as people were complaining.

man this is a good year for shooters still have to pick up esp2 when i can find one stateside. but deathsmiles 1 then 2 , ketsui . i swore to myself i would not be buying many games this year. thats going out the window.

alphagamer · Mar 11, 2010

Not region free? Where is the XBOX360 Unibios when you need it?

PinkSweets · Mar 11, 2010

IcBlUsCrN said:
well i will be getting this for certain. i have not looked for any info but is it going to be like the ds port? just boss fights? I have the ds version but gave away my ds so cant play it.

It's not going to be like the DS version. That was just Death Label. The 360 version is the full port. It has a fully playable Arcade Mode.

alphagamer · Mar 11, 2010

If the release will affect the price of the PCB? :cool:

Kiken · Mar 11, 2010

IcBlUsCrN said:
i dont think 5pb will have the same issues as its last release, so not worried there. Plus i did not find it as bad as people were complaining.

The game was playable at the recent Shooooooting Festa held by MS in Japan. Reports back are that it's a solid port. Mihara (of Arika) said in his blog that it's roughly the same quality port-wise as M2's conversion of Mushihime-sama Futari for the 360. So if you found that port agreeable, you shouldn't have any issues with this Ketsui port.

neo_mao · Mar 11, 2010

genjiglove said:
I definitely will not be importing a JP 360 for this, especially considering the company that is porting this apparently doesn't have the strongest track record with this kind of thing.

honestly, I dont think 5bp's Blex port was all that bad. The worst thing about it are the initial load times. Once you get past that, there is still alot of fun to be had with the game.

brentsg · Mar 11, 2010

neo_moe said:
honestly, I dont think 5bp's Blex port was all that bad. The worst thing about it are the initial load times. Once you get past that, there is still alot of fun to be had with the game.

Agreed. Other than load times and issues with online rankings, no player that hasn't dissected the PCB will ever have an issue with the port.

elixir · Mar 11, 2010

alphagamer said:
If the release will affect the price of the PCB?

Most likely, if the port's good. If the port's bad however..

cannonball · Mar 11, 2010

Elixir said:
Most likely, if the port's good. If the port's bad however..

Yeah, I definitely wouldn't mind seeing the pcb price go back to what it used to be before it got popular. I'm hoping the port is good for that reason alone.

alphagamer · Mar 11, 2010

cannonball said:
Yeah, I definitely wouldn't mind seeing the pcb price go back to what it used to be before it got popular. I'm hoping the port is good for that reason alone.

That would be nice, although I think the cave craze is here to stay :envy:

neo_mao · Mar 11, 2010

brentsg said:
Agreed. Other than load times and issues with online rankings, no player that hasn't dissected the PCB will ever have an issue with the port.

It's funny because I actually have the Ps2 DOJ as well but Blex gets more play time from me. this is mainly because the ps2 version only tates in the opposite direction of my monitor. But also, as crazy as x-mode and Piper are, its still kinda fun to play.

I have no regrets getting it and wont be selling it anytime soon.

It's pretty much the same for all of the ports for me. Not being a PCB guy, I have no complaints w/ any of them really, and I am sure Ketsui will satisfy me plenty

twalden · Mar 12, 2010

Wouldn't be surprised if it gets pushed back again.

from the Kotaku comments:

whatever happened to the good old shooters that were more than just "let's toss so many shots on the screen survival is impossible". I'm honestly starting to believe Ikaruga was the last great shooter. :lolz:

SNKorSWM · Mar 12, 2010

neo_moe said:
honestly, I dont think 5bp's Blex port was all that bad. The worst thing about it are the initial load times. Once you get past that, there is still alot of fun to be had with the game.

It's the game crashing glitches that gets to me. On the second loop, you lose all your extra lives (converted to points) and if you die, the game freezes.

twalden · Mar 12, 2010

SNKorSWM said:
It's the game crashing glitches that gets to me. On the second loop, you lose all your extra lives (converted to points) and if you die, the game freezes.

Not many people ever see second loop of DOJ on one credit.

elixir · Mar 12, 2010

And if you 1cc the game but fail to meet the second loop's requirements, the game thinks you finished on stage 6. (I did this)

DOJ is my favorite Cave game. The DOJBLEX port is awful. The railguns are out of sync in Stage 4 and all replays are fucked up. X-mode was just cashing in on home users who can't visit an arcade for DFK. The menus are slow and counter-intuitive. The achievements are bad. The new character is useless. The game has a built-in achievement list which lags like hell if you bring up the XMB.

There's a bunch more issues but those annoy me the most. Apart from being significantly easier to WL, it's not worth playing unless the patch manages to fix things.

black_7 · Mar 15, 2010

Elixir said:
No, it's not region free. (Every forum I visit.. I swear...)

A lot of people are going to be importing consoles just for this game.

Edit: Hey, it's nice to see that Kotaku is as slow and mediocre as ever. They're only a few months late this time.

I'm only a casual shmup fan too, so I'm not up to speed on their motivation for the decision. From a business end, why is it counterproductive for them to make it region free?

Poison Sama · Mar 15, 2010

black_7 said:
From a business end, why is it counterproductive for them to make it region free?

Because it would completely kill off any change of the game getting licensed for release outside of Japan. Cave and 5pb would get money for licensing it (but only if another company wants to license it). In the case of Ketsui, I'd say the chances of it getting licensed one day are pretty high.

alphagamer · Mar 16, 2010

Hentai Sama said:
Because it would completely kill off any change of the game getting licensed for release outside of Japan. Cave and 5pb would get money for licensing it (but only if another company wants to license it). In the case of Ketsui, I'd say the chances of it getting licensed one day are pretty high.

But of course Cave is telling all this "building a fanbase overseas" bullshit.

Makota Asada: Mushihime-sama Futari was our first region-free game and we were happy enough with the response to finalize our plans for the US release of Deathsmiles. Ultimately, releasing the game region free doesn’t make as much sense to us as localizing our games and building a real fanbase overseas. That doesn’t mean that we’re only going to release games in the US of course, it really depends on interest from fans.

Poison Sama · Mar 16, 2010

alphagamer said:
But of course Cave is telling all this "building a fanbase overseas" bullshit.

It's not BS, but it's not the whole story either.

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