Can anyone mod 2 CvS dreamcast pads and 2 official sega joysticks for me?

Can anyone help me? I don't want to make it useless for the DC either, I intend to just drill a small hole to slide the wiring through.

Basically, can anyone tell me how to do this? I know I need a PC extension cable, but how do I open that up and know which wires I'm viewing? IE I know you always have to solder wires to X pins, but how do I know which is which?

From there, where are my solder points if I don't wish to remove the dreamcast wiring?


I'm also hoping to be able to do the exact same thing for the Capcom vs SNK pads I have on the way.

[ July 17, 2002: Message edited by: Kyo 2000 ]</p>

The best way to know which pin is which is using a multimeter in the male part. You connect one end to a pin and with the other you touch the wires til contact is made, and you write down the color/pin matching.

If you don't have a multimeter (anyway I suggest you to buy one for doing this mod, it will be handy), there are two other ways. Since you won't need the male end, just cut it in half and directly check the color of the wire in each pin.
Another possibility is connecting the female end to your neo in the button test screen, having the nude wires in your hand. Just start making contact between them. You'll find one that contacting with almost each other a button is pressed. That is ground. Making contact with the other wires to it and looking at what button is pressed you'll get everything.

I don't know how the agetec stick is, so you should post pics. Anyway be sure to have a look at all the links about modding controllers I put in a thread.

Good luck.

Thanks for the reply. The agetec stick in question is the official Sega joystick. It was released by Agetec in the US. The same stick that I was that you had modded previously, Amano.

My question was how to do this without wiping out it's usefullness as a dreamcast joystick.

Let's see. Well on the PC extension cable, can you post a listing of what color cable goes to which pin? I assume this is universal and thus would greatly help me out. I'm not sure how to do the check you're speaking of with a multi-meter. Explain, please. Just treat me like real rank newbie. I can solder very well, but I don't actually know a thing about doing these controllers.

I bet you can walk me right through the process. Actually, testing these things will have to wait until the Neo arrives, I suppose. I was getting ahead of myself wanting to have these done first.

Is there anyone out there (in the states) that does these things? Hit me with a Pm and maybe we can work something out, and I won't have to suggest myself to all this trouble. I'm wanting to have 2 Agetec (official Sega) joysticks, as well as 2 SNK vs Capcom pads modded for use on the NeoGeo. NOT having their Dreamcast components disabled would be of great interest to me, so that I might still use them on DC.

Anyway. Yes, I'm sticking with that. If you're a controller modding expert, please PM me.

First of all, I know it's stupid, but there's no universal color code for the wires in a PC controller extension cable, as explained in this page: <a href="http://dumbass.hypermart.net/presents/dc/marvins/tutorial/mad%20catz/madcatz.htm" target="_blank">http://dumbass.hypermart.net/presents/dc/marvins/tutorial/mad%20 catz/madcatz.htm</a>
In fact the colors on mine were different from the ones posted there.

As of now I hope you have checked all the links here:
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Specially this thread, but you should look them all:
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About the multimeter, it's a simple device that can mesure the voltage between 2 points among other things. They cost around 10$ in any electronics store, check <a href="http://www.multimeterwarehouse.com/digital.htm." target="_blank">http://www.multimeterwarehouse.com/digital.htm.</a>
They have like to metal sticks (one black, one red) attached to it with wires.
A nice feature of them is the "continuity test", that will make it beep each time the 2 sticks touch each other directly or through a conductive material. So if you want to know if two points are electrically connected, just touch each one with a stick; if you hear "beep" they are, if not they are not.
So you want to know which pin on the male end (it's easier than the female for this) is connected to each wire. So you just touch a pin with a stick and in the meantime with the other stick you touch each wire til you hear beep. Then you know which wire correspond to that pin. Repeat with all pins.

I hope it's now clear, I doubt I can explain it better, this is easier to do than to explain. If not make a search on google about how to use a multimeter (and again, check the links I gave).

Personally I suggest to do the mod yourself if you have soldering skills, it's dead easy in the DC sticks (In Europe they are not called agetec), I managed to do so just with the info on the links (have you read them all already?).

About making them work with DC, you'll have to solder the wires without unplugging the DC connectors on the PCB, just like Doughboy did, check the pics on that thread. The best way would be soldering them on top of the connector. Another possibility I thought, for the wires in the direcctional stick, is using the solder points that are there in the small pcb that is under the stick.
In any case Doughboy should be able to give more info.

Another suggestion: I don't think is necessary to drill a hole for the new cable, if it's thin enough you can just use the hole in the VMS slot.

I hope I helped, if you have trouble just post here.

Good luck!

[ July 17, 2002: Message edited by: Amano Jacu ]</p>

You're right. This isn't going to be so bad, or so hard. Special thanks to both Amano_Jacu, and Ven, for the assist.

Ven, let me know if you ever go pro on that stuff and start refurbing them with all the japanese arcade parts! Also, it would be great to see pics of yours!

The world is full of ungrateful people...

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Kyo2000 = Joshua

I wasn't comfortable doing it myself until I saw how a finished controller mod looked. Quit harping on like a fucking child.