Shock Troopers 2nd Squad slowdown?

sackashiet

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just got this game today, great game and its running fine, I just wanted to ask if the slowdown in the game is normal? when there's a lot going on the screen theres a little lag and slowdown. only reason I ask is because I never saw any lag or slowdown with Metal Slug or any other arcade pcbs I have. I know Shock Troopers 2nd squad is a high meg cart so maybe its really pushing the neo geo hardware?
 
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Have you tried Metal Slug 2? Because that will definitely slow down and give you something to compare to...

But ST2 does slow down quite a bit at times and is normal. The only way around the slowdown is if you overclocked your MVS (or AES).
 
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No I haven't got a metal Slug 2 cart yet...

Thanks I just wanted to know if the slowdown was normal. Its definately not a problem though, I wouldn't want to overclock the mvs board and make it run hotter and harder than normal.

thanks again
 
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sackashiet said:
No I haven't got a metal Slug 2 cart yet...

Thanks I just wanted to know if the slowdown was normal. Its definately not a problem though, I wouldn't want to overclock the mvs board and make it run hotter and harder than normal.

thanks again
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Well second squad slowdown is quite bearable.... slug 2 is another thing. But either way, overclocking shouldn't really make things hotter as you are just adding a crystal and then switching between it and the stock rate with a toggle.
 
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After testing these are a few games that display slowdown:

Shock Troopers 2
Captain Tomaday
Metal Slug 2
Last Resort
Blazing Star
Aero Fighters 2
Aero Fighters 3

There are more but these were ones I tested with.
 
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Xian Xi said:
After testing these are a few games that display slowdown:

Shock Troopers 2
Captain Tomaday
Metal Slug 2
Last Resort
Blazing Star
Aero Fighters 2
Aero Fighters 3

There are more but these were ones I tested with.
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Good list...
Yeah Aero Fighters 2 is another bad one at times.

Some of the Fatal Fury games have it as well. Sam sho ones?
 
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xiao_haozi said:
Good list...
Yeah Aero Fighters 2 is another bad one at times.

Some of the Fatal Fury games have it as well. Sam sho ones?
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I don't remember any non-intentional slowdown in SS I-IV but I haven't spent a ton of time with them either.
 
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The slowdown in SS games from what I have researched is on purpose to produce more a dramatic effect and not so much a result of the limits of the cart and/or the 68000 processor.
 
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I have both MS2 and Shock Troopers 2nd and I've gotta say that I experience more slowdown in Shock 2nd than I do with MS2. Especially in 2P mode on Shock, it is almost unbearable to play through some parts. In fact, I think Shock 2nd has the most slowdown out of all of my current MVS collection.

Someone who has Shock 2nd and a buddy to play with, test this out and you'll see what I mean.
 
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acg12xu said:
I have both MS2 and Shock Troopers 2nd and I've gotta say that I experience more slowdown in Shock 2nd than I do with MS2. Especially in 2P mode on Shock, it is almost unbearable to play through some parts. In fact, I think Shock 2nd has the most slowdown out of all of my current MVS collection.

Someone who has Shock 2nd and a buddy to play with, test this out and you'll see what I mean.
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It's actually the exact opposite from my experience. We were just jamming on Slug 2 on the AES the other weekend and it was light years slower than anything I've run into with second squad. Anyway, it's there in both.
 
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After some testing I found that 14.3mhz is the speed I prefer if overclocking which is a ~20% increase in efficiency. Just make sure you make it with a switch as some games produce heavy graphic glitches when you go to 16mhz.

Cap Tom at 16mhz had great speed but the graphics were horrible.
 
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I agree, Even with the slowdown ST2 is a great game
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Well not to me when i had a copy of (ST2) sauras took away what made the original great :p

Though it didn't take me long to sell it either.
 
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Tron said:
Well not to me when i had a copy of (ST2) sauras took away what made the original great :p

Though it didn't take me long to sell it either.
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I use MAME to play ST2 , used to have a copy of it but I sold it long ago
Just keep the games that am playing the most, but your're right
they looks like 2 different games .. same type but different..
 
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