Quick help needed, 60hz mod. PAL AES

cgun

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There's two resistors. PAL 1 and PAL 2. Which one should i snip?

I have a PAL AES-3 system.
 

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I think its PAL 1 then the signal goes to the NTSC part of the board, I think?, I can't remember Im a bit pissed. Look back through the tech forum you will come across the correct answer.
 

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Why are you moding your AES?? Mine is Pal and runs at 60Hz, something called "PAL-60". Mine isn't modded.

Can it be the REV of the board's fault?? <img src="graemlins/eye.gif" border="0" alt="[Eye]" /> <img src="graemlins/eye.gif" border="0" alt="[Eye]" /> <img src="graemlins/help.gif" border="0" alt="[Help]" />

Friend, Modify only your Neo if you're gonna place the Debbug Bios, you live in Europe, so you won't need to modify your Neo to SVIDEO too, SCART is Better. :rolleyes:
 

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SaturFAN > Ok, i'll take a look at other thread. Thanks anyway.

Atrophyed > Yeah, i know. Mine is 50hz now, must snip a resistor to get it PAL-60. Which is the best possible video output via an RGB-cable. :)
 
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U after PAL 60 or proper NTSC? If the latter, remove both (snip - yuk, so amateur).

BTW, *NO* PAL console does 60Hz out the box. All that about "but it has no borders" is BOLLOX. Course it does, you're using a SCART lead with a TV that handles it!
 

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I'm after PAL-60. And for the rest, i can't really figure out what your trying to say.

Surely a PAL machine can run in 60hz.
 
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OK this is what you have to do, I`ve done it in the past and it works 100% - 60HZ

----I'm so sick of composite video. I want RGB!
Have you got a PAL Neo-Geo with an RF, or composite cable? Here are two steps to RGB (I never did this,
so approach with caution):
1. You need to force your Neo-Geo to display through the NTSC signal. Why? Because unlike the PAL
signal it is 16% faster, full screen, and above all, it looks as the programmers intended. To do this, just open
your Neo-Geo by unscrewing the four screws on the bottom (3 of the screws are hidden under the rubber
feet; just remove the feet with a little screwdriver). Once your console is open, locate a small piece of bare
wire (very short) in the area of the top right corner of the motherboard; it is called PAL 1. There is no need to
be uneasy, as it is marked as PAL 1. Now with a small cutter cut it in half, and make sure that no contact is
made. That's all. If you did everything fine you should get full screen signal (NTSC). Obviously after this, you will have to use an RGB/SCART Picture.

[ July 14, 2002: Message edited by: Nostromo ]</p>
 

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Originally posted by eggplant_casserole:
<strong>U after PAL 60 or proper NTSC? If the latter, remove both (snip - yuk, so amateur).

BTW, *NO* PAL console does 60Hz out the box. All that about "but it has no borders" is BOLLOX. Course it does, you're using a SCART lead with a TV that handles it!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Sorry friend, but my Neo Geo IS Pal60. It's simple, it's hooked up on a Amiga monitor with standard composite RCA cables.

and there are no fucking borders or black bars or whatever! Just magnificent.

Oh! btw, do you know why NTSC is faster 16% than PAL(50) ? It's because it have less lines, PAL provides a better picture, it haves more lines.
So if you can have a PAL60 Neo Geo, it would be the best for picture quality and it'll run as fast as an NTSC console. ;)
 
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'Magnicifent' and 'RCA Cables' in the same sentence?! No such thing. Nothing touches pure RGB/SCART.
 

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Ok, thanks nostromo. :)

Atrophyed > I've heard that you get that PAL60 image by removing the PAL 1. Open your console and you'll propably notice that your is gone och cut i half.
 

cgun

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It's done. PAL60 i'm sure. My TV doesnt support NTSC and i have full speed, full screen even with the RF-cable. Hurray!
 
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OK, YES they can run at 60Hz. But NOT OUT OF THE BOX!

A PAL machine is set to PAL 50Hz. Simple as that. Needs opening to run at 60.

BTW

"Sorry friend, but my Neo Geo IS Pal60. It's simple, it's hooked up on a Amiga monitor with standard composite RCA cables."

Amiga monitors can't handle 60Hz over composite. Try a US PS2 or summin and you'll see what I mean!
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Oh! btw, do you know why NTSC is faster 16% than PAL(50) ? "

Yes I do. Cuz NTSC is 60Hz, PAL is 50Hz. This means 50 cycles per second, as opposed to 60. NOTHING to do with NTSC, the lines are irrelevant. NTSC also has more pixels widthways, doesn't change a thing. Its the refresh rate.

"So if you can have a PAL60 Neo Geo, it would be the best for picture quality and it'll run as fast as an NTSC console. "

YES. This is what I'm saying. You CAN have PAL 60. there are TWO resistors to remove. One selects PAL/NTSC, the other 50/60Hz. So lets just remove the refresh rate one, and we get PAL 60!
 

cgun

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eggplant_casserole > Ok, yeah. I know what you mean and i agree. I didn't get it first.
I think Atrophyed bought his system modded from the beginning.

Do you know a way of centering the image on the AES?
 
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centering horizontally or vertically?

i hear some games don't run properly in a PAL machine. The solution would be to play it at PROPER NTSC 60, i.e. if setting the switches to NTSC and 60Hz doesn't work, change the crystal too ;)
 
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