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I'm getting confused with what a conversion is. Is it a MVS board then the person takes a blank AES cart. Makes/prints the box art and label for AES cart?

If thats the way they're made why people asking $200+ for this crap?
 
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There are various ways to do this, but often you cannibalize an existing AES and MVS cart to create a different AES cart.

The pricing is based on the value of the AES that was destroyed, the value of the MVS cart that the ROMs came from, and the time it takes to solder these ROMs to the AES boards. The artwork and sticker that is included can also contribute to the price.

Just because it's not authentic doesn't mean that it's cheap to produce.
 

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even with the cost of the materials, it's hard to understand why the finished product is priced so high. the value of it should have nothing to do with the value of the genuine cart of the same AES game. I guess in some cases they need to use specific MVS games (which might be more expensive). Sometimes when they make a conversion version of a snap lock game, they want to use a snap lock sac cart, which are often more expensive than flap box AES games.
 
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When you see a conversion of an MVS cart that goes for $100 loose selling for $200, I think it's justified. I couldn't imagine desoldering and soldering so many chips for less than $100 as a service let alone the cost of the SAC cart + case.
The Super MVS Converter II and Phantom-1 adaptors are so cheap these days, conversions aren't even justified anymore, though.
At least the authentic MVS carts retain their value, and you don't have to deal with sub-par artwork.
 
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I had a Metal Slug made years ago when there was no way I was spending $1k+ on a cart. So I had to provide the AES sac cart... the Metal Slug MVS cart... and the labor fee for the work.

But yeah I agree, just avoid them. I wouldn't do it again now that there are other options available.
 

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Ok got it all now.

I think I was getting confused with why convert a game that already was produced for the AES in the first place.
 

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Its only a matter of time until Fatal Fury 3 AES is classified as rare.
 

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we should ask AES collectors to hoard Fatal Fury 3(and the other cheap snap-case games like KOF95, SS3 etc), so they can't be used for conversions.
 
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The more gifted people who do conversions also make backwards conversions. The MVS cart ROMs are moved into the AES cart and the AES ROMs are moved into the MVS cart.
 

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Has anyone ever tried converting a non mvs or aes game to run on the aes? Add in some kind of emulator program like they did on the dreamcast to run neo cds.

I would pay some mad bucks for a Street Fighter 2 or MK 2 Aes cart!
 

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I dont think we need more Fighters on the Neo but we could use some good shooters and beat em ups.

Still waiting for the messiah that will convert Ikari Warriors and Time Soldiers to MVS.
 

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I dont think we need more Fighters on the Neo but we could use some good shooters and beat em ups.

Still waiting for the messiah that will convert Ikari Warriors and Time Soldiers to MVS.

I was never a fan of Ikari Warriors. I know, you're probably thinking I only played the NES version. But my local skating rink had it back in the day. I tried to enjoy it, I did! I could never really get into it.
 

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Japanese Fatal Fury 3 (or SS3/KOF95) is never going to be rare, don't overestimate how many conversions are still being made. We are to a point now where many of the conversions being sold are second hand. For instance you see plenty of cgame conversions on eBay, but cgame hasn't done business for nearly year.

The only game conversions may have had any adverse affect on is probably AES Sengoku 3. It's impossible to determine just how much though, but it's safe to say should you score one and it has a sunfaded insert or something you probably wont have a real hard time finding a replacement. :P
 

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I was never a fan of Ikari Warriors. I know, you're probably thinking I only played the NES version. But my local skating rink had it back in the day. I tried to enjoy it, I did! I could never really get into it.

Makes sense. I didn't appreciate it when I was a kid and when I turned 13 is when I really loved it. At the local supermarket which was about 2 blocks from my house they had time soldiers, ikari warriors and arkanoid. They later replaced time soldiers with gunsmoke and ikari warriors with ninja gaiden.
 

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Makes sense. I didn't appreciate it when I was a kid and when I turned 13 is when I really loved it. At the local supermarket which was about 2 blocks from my house they had time soldiers, ikari warriors and arkanoid. They later replaced time soldiers with gunsmoke and ikari warriors with ninja gaiden.

Arkanoid is one of my all time favorites. Oh well I suppose I'll stop de-railing this thread now, heh.
 

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Has anyone ever tried converting a non mvs or aes game to run on the aes? Add in some kind of emulator program like they did on the dreamcast to run neo cds.

I would pay some mad bucks for a Street Fighter 2 or MK 2 Aes cart!
Now you're talking complete science fiction. At any rate, that's a completely separate topic.
 

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Has anyone ever tried converting a non mvs or aes game to run on the aes? Add in some kind of emulator program like they did on the dreamcast to run neo cds.

I would pay some mad bucks for a Street Fighter 2 or MK 2 Aes cart!
To run emulation, a system needs way more power than the system it's trying to emulate.
Obviously the Neo couldn't emulate SF2 or MK2 at any decent speed. It would have to be a programmed conversion, which would be a fair bit of work to do. The SF2 and MK2 arcade machines also have higher resolutions than Neo. In terms of sprite power, the Neo would probably be better than a CPS1. It has better sound capabilities than the CPS1, but not necessarily as good as the MK2 board, don't know.
If the Neo could emulate earlier systems, it would probably be systems like the Atari 2600, NES, Master System (at best).
There was a system by Capcom that was similar to the AES, which was the CPS Changer. It was based on a CPS1 and is really a supergun. They're super rare, especially outside Japan.
 

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When I did programming in college years ago we made .ism programs for those Ti-86+ calculators. I remember taking software from nes roms and c++ then making the "environment" smaller and downgrading color. It wasn't that hard and they came out really way better than I ever believed they would. Its hard to remember exactly, probibly still have all the programs. I know I still have the hardware, bet it doesn't work in vista. Damn now I started thinking about what all we did, might of been a++.

Anyways I'm sure its possible but your right, maybe not exactly worth it.
 

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I dont think we need more Fighters on the Neo but we could use some good shooters and beat em ups.

Still waiting for the messiah that will convert Ikari Warriors and Time Soldiers to MVS.



Who cares, You can get Ikari Warriors on Atari 2600. It's pretty hardcore, in a retarded way... :conf:
 

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are there any conversions sold as AES versions on Ebay or anywhere?
 

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are there any conversions sold as AES versions on Ebay or anywhere?

Hint. Search "Metal Slug AES" on ebay. There are a fair few. I'm currently watching one MS conversion which even has a reproduced manual.
 
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