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I wrote this because it seems there are many common misconceptions around as to what constitutes a bootleg cartridge. Seeing as there now seems to be some demand for this to be definitive, I'll be working daily to update this list
LABELS
Good signs:
Original label (though obviously, someone could have put bootleg boards in a legit case)
Things that mean nothing (or could be a good sign)
scratched or partially scratched serials
Signs you should open a cart to look at chips/boards:
fake label (does not mean the cartridge can't be legit)
*note* I have seen a few SVC labels on fake cartridges that seem to be legitimate labels; one was black/grey instead of the standard blue; the other looked exactly like an original as far as I could tell
BOARDS
Things that mean nothing:
Boards are from different years
SNK-stamped boards
Bad signs:
boards are not SNK boards
CHIPS
Signs a cart must be legit:
Toshiba chips
Good signs:
No EPROMS (windowed chips)
Bad signs:
EPROMS (though they are common in original copies of Puzzle Bobble, and are found occasionally in some other carts including many early-mid 90s titles including but not necessarily limited to Samurai Shodown and Fatal Fury 2)
Signs a cartridge is a bootleg:
Flash memory
Mini boards soldered into spaces where chips would normally be
Toshiba chips are a good indicator of a legitimate cartridge, but not having Toshiba chips are not an indicator that signifies a cartridge is a boot.
If we make the logical argument "Toshiba chips implies a cartridge is not a bootleg," we can also make the converse argument "a bootleg cartridge does not have Toshiba chips."
We cannot, however, make the contrapositive or inverse arguments of "not having Toshiba chips implies a cartridge is a bootleg" or "if a cartrige is not a bootleg then it has Toshiba chips." Hopefully that makes sense to everyone reading.
NGH NUMBER
Good sign:
NGH number on chips matches master list
Bad sign:
Does not match master list
ODDITIES (As originally posted by Ely13, updated by myself)
--Games that are not bootlegs with known oddities--
Power Spikes II - Blue Capacitor
Quest of Jongmaster - Blue Capacitor
SVC Chaos - Small daughterboard on top of chip
Samurai Shodown 5 - Small daughterboard on top of chip
Puzzle Bobble / Bust-A-Move - NGH # from PB and Power Spikes 2, several EPROM
Metal Slug 3 - Some carts may have a daughterboard thing (looks like a neo-geo pocket cart soldered to a normal mvs board?)
SOURCES:
Ely13 http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=120255
LABELS
Good signs:
Original label (though obviously, someone could have put bootleg boards in a legit case)
Things that mean nothing (or could be a good sign)
scratched or partially scratched serials
Signs you should open a cart to look at chips/boards:
fake label (does not mean the cartridge can't be legit)
*note* I have seen a few SVC labels on fake cartridges that seem to be legitimate labels; one was black/grey instead of the standard blue; the other looked exactly like an original as far as I could tell
BOARDS
Things that mean nothing:
Boards are from different years
SNK-stamped boards
Bad signs:
boards are not SNK boards
CHIPS
Signs a cart must be legit:
Toshiba chips
Good signs:
No EPROMS (windowed chips)
Bad signs:
EPROMS (though they are common in original copies of Puzzle Bobble, and are found occasionally in some other carts including many early-mid 90s titles including but not necessarily limited to Samurai Shodown and Fatal Fury 2)
Signs a cartridge is a bootleg:
Flash memory
Mini boards soldered into spaces where chips would normally be
Toshiba chips are a good indicator of a legitimate cartridge, but not having Toshiba chips are not an indicator that signifies a cartridge is a boot.
If we make the logical argument "Toshiba chips implies a cartridge is not a bootleg," we can also make the converse argument "a bootleg cartridge does not have Toshiba chips."
We cannot, however, make the contrapositive or inverse arguments of "not having Toshiba chips implies a cartridge is a bootleg" or "if a cartrige is not a bootleg then it has Toshiba chips." Hopefully that makes sense to everyone reading.
NGH NUMBER
Good sign:
NGH number on chips matches master list
Bad sign:
Does not match master list
ODDITIES (As originally posted by Ely13, updated by myself)
--Games that are not bootlegs with known oddities--
Power Spikes II - Blue Capacitor
Quest of Jongmaster - Blue Capacitor
SVC Chaos - Small daughterboard on top of chip
Samurai Shodown 5 - Small daughterboard on top of chip
Puzzle Bobble / Bust-A-Move - NGH # from PB and Power Spikes 2, several EPROM
Metal Slug 3 - Some carts may have a daughterboard thing (looks like a neo-geo pocket cart soldered to a normal mvs board?)
SOURCES:
Ely13 http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=120255
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