rgb vs component video

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i know that component video is in a way rgb but i want to know what is better rgb or component video since i do have the capibiity to have component but not rgb but was thinking about getting a rgb monitor whice format is better for those that can compare both?
 

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From what I have learned the picture quality is equal. Component video is just another way of getting the Rgb signal. I do not know if there is a way yet to get the Neo to work on a component television. I have seen converters that are supposed to take an rgb signal and convert it to component. I do not know if any quality is lost in the conversion process. I know alot of people on the boards use xrgb upscan converters which I believe can also take in an rgb signal and output a component.
 

td741

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You have to watch out.

There are differences.

RGB and Component can be the same or different things. :p

There is profesional component video which just an R, G, B signal with an option external sync.

There is colour differential video which is labeled as "Component" on TV's and DVD Players. This is YCrCb and/or YPrPb which is different. I'm not a 100% expert on this but I think it's essentially "Luma" followed by a mixture between the difference between Red and Green and Blue and Green (or something to that effect.) [It has something to do with the "Green" signal hogs alot of bandwidth if left all by itself.]

In short, if you plug in an RGB signal in a YCrCb tv, then you'll end up with lots of green. ;)
 
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It'll be the latter that td mentioned - as he said basically sync and colour differentials. In theory it can be better than RGB *IF* you have something that can output it!!!
 
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I checked on the back of my T.V. and I do have a Y Cb Cr input. "Color stream" is what it's called and under that is says "DVD input". If this input is the same as the Red Yellow and White connections then what is the point of having it? I'm sorry I'm just a bit confused as to why this thing is on my T.V. Is it good? Will it let me see images better? If so then can I only use my DVD player with it?
 

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I checked on the back of my T.V. and I do have a Y Cb Cr input. "Color stream" is what it's called and under that is says "DVD input". If this input is the same as the Red Yellow and White connections then what is the point of having it? I'm sorry I'm just a bit confused as to why this thing is on my T.V. Is it good? Will it let me see images better? If so then can I only use my DVD player with it? <hr></blockquote>

Yes it's good. It's the next step up from S-Video. You can hook up anything that has a componet output on it such as a lot of DVD players,PS2, and X Box.
It is not the same as your normal AV hook ups (red, white, and yellow) The 3 RCA jacks you are looking at are for the video only. They carry red, blue and green... the colors used to make all colors. its better because you aren't jamming all the colors through one cable, each color has its own cable. As with anything else, the better the cables you use, the better the picture you will get also.
 
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Is this serious?

Standard component video sucks to the max, just plug your PS2 in through it to see, blurry edges, and washed out colours.

RGB is pretty much supposed to be the best quality, but S-Video is good enough for me!
 

Devilman78

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Originally posted by MVSteve:
<strong>Is this serious?

Standard component video sucks to the max, just plug your PS2 in through it to see, blurry edges, and washed out colours.

RGB is pretty much supposed to be the best quality, but S-Video is good enough for me!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Are you sure you mean Component and not Composite?

It should not look washed out, or blurry, if it does look that bad, there may be something wrong with your TV.

Here's a good page on RGB/Component/S-video/Composite/

<a href="http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Articles/VideoConnectors/VideoConnectors.asp" target="_blank">http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Articles/VideoConnectors/VideoConnectors.asp</a>
 

Daisuke Jigen

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Originally posted by MVSteve:
<strong>Is this serious?

Standard component video sucks to the max, just plug your PS2 in through it to see, blurry edges, and washed out colours.

RGB is pretty much supposed to be the best quality, but S-Video is good enough for me!</strong><hr></blockquote>

You're thinking of Composite dipshit.

You didn't know your ass from RGB 4 days ago.

Component (color difference) is better than S-Video.

S-Video seperates the Luma/Chroma into its own lines. One line contains RGB and synce, and the other contains the black and white image.

Component Has R-luminance, and B-Luminance. Green is calculated algebraically. It is still not a completely seperate signal.

Dumbass. <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" />
 

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Here's some more information relating to between Colour Difference "Component" Video (YCrCb) and RGB (aka component in professional grade equipment) video.

Snipped from: <a href="http://www.dansdata.com/video.htm" target="_blank">http://www.dansdata.com/video.htm</a>
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RGB is the same basic system used to feed all modern computer monitors, but it’s practically never used for recording, because leaving the space-hog green data in there makes RGB take up 50% more bandwidth than the less straightforward version of component video – colour difference.

In colour difference component video, the first channel is luminance. Notated Y, the standard abbreviation for intensity, the luminance is the signal’s brightness information with no colour data. Y by itself gives a black and white picture. The other two channels are called colour difference signals – they’re notated R-Y and B-Y, and are the difference between red and the luminance and the difference between blue and the luminance, respectively. The colour difference channels can be algebraically recombined with the luminance to give a full colour picture, without having to transmit the green data that, on most video, takes up more bandwidth than the other two colours put together (on average, green is 59% of a video signal)."

The why's of colour-difference "Component" video (forgot to snip link):
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B-Y R-Y
The human visual system has much less acuity for spatial variation of colour than for brightness. Rather than conveying RGB, it is advantageous to convey luma in one channel, and colour information that has had luma removed in the two other channels. In an analog system, the two colour channels can have less bandwidth, typically one-third that of luma. In a digital system each of the two colour channels can have considerably less data rate (or data capacity) than luma.

Green dominates the luma channel: about 59% of the luma signal comprises green information. Therefore it is sensible, and advantageous for signal-to-noise reasons, to base the two colour channels on blue and 1red. The simplest way to remove luma from each of these is to subtract it to form the difference between a primary colour and luma. Hence, the basic video colour-difference pair is (B-Y), (R-Y) [pronounced "B minus Y, R minus Y"].
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Here's a circuit that converts YCrCb to RGB
<a href="http://home.att.net/~billhudson/rybyrgb.pdf" target="_blank">http://home.att.net/~billhudson/rybyrgb.pdf</a> (though not what we're generally looking for unless you want to hook up a system that has YCrCb out to an 15khz RGB monitor... note, there isn't a sync signal.)

As for the usefulness of YCrCb Component, as others have said it's a step up from Y/C (SVideo, Luma-Chroma). Although you can't display as many colours as you would with a pure RGB signal, the result is good enough for the human eye. In fact, I believe that this is how JPEG and MPEG internally stores it's data. Thus it's appearance on DVD players.

I found out most of this when I was seeing if I could leverage the YCrCb input of my TV in order to plug an MVS to it. I think there's more info on an earlier thread.
 
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