Henry Motherfucking Hatsworth

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Y'all need to be playing this. 2-D side-scroller up top, Pokemon Puzzle League on the bottom, inextricably linked together if you want to get anywhere. It's quite awesome, really.

Got this and Suikoden Tierkreis over the weekend. Add those to the bunches and bunches of other stuff that's come out, DAMN, there been an embarrassment of riches on the DS lately.
 
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jro said:
Y'all need to be playing this. 2-D side-scroller up top, Pokemon Puzzle League on the bottom, inextricably linked together if you want to get anywhere. It's quite awesome, really.

Got this and Suikoden Tierkreis over the weekend. Add those to the bunches and bunches of other stuff that's come out, DAMN, there been an embarrassment of riches on the DS lately.
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I rented both games and they are both excellent. They are also two more games among many DS games out this month that are receiving pretty good reviews.

I am only a few hours into Suikoden but I really like it. Henry Hatsworth is fantastic but I have never been good that type of puzzle game, so that is causing me some problems. The action parts are really well done.
 
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Henry Hatsworth looks great, I just watched a video.

ARGH!!! I've got GTA and Final Fantasy 1 (GBA) to get through :p
 
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Henry Hatsworth looks great, I just watched a video.

ARGH!!! I've got GTA and Final Fantasy 1 (GBA) to get through :p
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It is indeed quite fun. Much more challenging than it looks, given the aesthetic of the packaging, silly characters, etc, though.

Once you get a ways into it, though, it's pretty sweet how the puzzle elements of managing powerups from the game world into the puzzle back into the game world when you need them works just right for strategy purposes.

Nice amount of variety in enemy encounters, too- there are times where you have to fight off huge amounts of enemies on the game world, so then, of course you have to jump down to puzzle world and quickly get rid of all of them, or they come back.

Buy powerups to permanently upgrade adds nice depth. Highly recommended, I'd say.

edit: and I swear to God that my title for it would have kicked way more ass than the real, boring title that EA ended up using.
 
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Looks pretty fun. Damn you DS for bringing out so much good stuff!

EDIT: Oh snap, found it used. I'm taking my happy ass to the store now.
 
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Wow, this hit me from left field. What a great mash up of two ideas. And it's not just thrown in there, the puzzle aspect affects the action on screen and vice versa. Thanks for the tip jro.

P.S. This was done by EA Tiburon who also does all the Madden games from what I understand. Who knew they could put something out with some soul.
 
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That's why I'm not picking it up. I boycott EA for customer-punishing practices (spending huge amounts of money to eleminate all football game competition).

So far there have been few EA games I wanted to play anyway, but this hatsworth game looks great.
 
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Mad Mage said:
That's why I'm not picking it up. I boycott EA for customer-punishing practices (spending huge amounts of money to eleminate all football game competition).

So far there have been few EA games I wanted to play anyway, but this hatsworth game looks great.
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Meh, this whole "I'm punishing company X because they are mean evil people" just doesn't work. It's a good idea in theory, but sad to say, your $30 isn't going to make or break EA. Plus is a damn fine game so go buy it!:D
 
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Jedah Doma said:
Meh, this whole "I'm punishing company X because they are mean evil people" just doesn't work. It's a good idea in theory, but sad to say, your $30 isn't going to make or break EA. Plus is a damn fine game so go buy it!:D
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I don't agree with you often Jedah, but I do here. You're totally right — EA isn't gonna give a shit whether you buy their games or not, MM. They're gonna be all right either way.
 
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I don't agree with you often Jedah, but I do here. You're totally right — EA isn't gonna give a shit whether you buy their games or not, MM. They're gonna be all right either way.
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I know, it's like our two hearts have become one....or something like that.:D
 
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So this is pokemon puzzle league with platformer flava?

Sounds fun.
 
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So, the thing is, games like this are pitched internally by EA employees - this one was prototyped and pitched by an awesome dude name Kyle in his spare time. Its pretty amazing it was greenlit for development, and if you'd like to see big companies like EA give the all-clear for more innovative, fun games in the future, supporting games like Henry Hatsworth gives all those other dudes pitching their games a better chance the bosses will be on board.

On the other hand, if Hatsworth bombs, despite high critical reviews and supposed demand from gamers for "real games" on the DS and Wii, because everyone who'd like to play it downloads it to their R4 or rents it for a weekend, guess how many other cool games like that are going to get greenlit in this economy?
 
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You guy make fair arguements, but if I find a company does buisniess practices that I find evil, it's my right to not buy their products. Yeah, one less copy of the game sold isn't gonna phase EA, but by that logic, very few things are worth standing up for (or sitting down).

Ya know what, I could quite well get massively flammed for this, but I just bought an R4 cart and have been enjoying Harry Hatsworth. I've bought a good 50 or so full priced DS games over the years I don't feel in the least bit guilty about not giving a company I deem evil my money. Rest assured, the standard piracy debate will not be contributed to by me here.

Does anyone else feel Harry Hatsworth was influenced by Rare's style?
 
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Mad Mage said:
You guy make fair arguements, but if I find a company does buisniess practices that I find evil, it's my right to not buy their products. Yeah, one less copy of the game sold isn't gonna phase EA, but by that logic, very few things are worth standing up for (or sitting down).

Ya know what, I could quite well get massively flammed for this, but I just bought an R4 cart and have been enjoying Harry Hatsworth. I've bought a good 50 or so full priced DS games over the years I don't feel in the least bit guilty about not giving a company I deem evil my money. Rest assured, the standard piracy debate will not be contributed to by me here.

Does anyone else feel Harry Hatsworth was influenced by Rare's style?
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Well I'm not insisting you buy it. I'm just saying that if you're boycotting it for purely practical reasons (i.e. you're trying to deprive EA of income), you're wasting your time. If it's an entirely moral issue to you, go nuts.
 
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Mad Mage said:
You guy make fair arguements, but if I find a company does buisniess practices that I find evil, it's my right to not buy their products. Yeah, one less copy of the game sold isn't gonna phase EA, but by that logic, very few things are worth standing up for (or sitting down).

Ya know what, I could quite well get massively flammed for this, but I just bought an R4 cart and have been enjoying Harry Hatsworth. I've bought a good 50 or so full priced DS games over the years I don't feel in the least bit guilty about not giving a company I deem evil my money. Rest assured, the standard piracy debate will not be contributed to by me here.

Does anyone else feel Harry Hatsworth was influenced by Rare's style?
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I find your double standard a bit odd. You don't want to buy a game from the big bad evil EA, yet you pirate the game which then cause junk like DRM.

Say what you want to about EA, but it's people like you who make crap like DRM a reality. So now your doing more harm then good. Thanks jackass.

Add to that, this game was created by one guy inside of Tiburon EA (the folks reponsible for every last Madden game). EA gave him the green light, but if sales aren't strong because folks like yourself sit so high and mighty on your pedestal of double standards, then all we'll see is the same Madden drivel every year.

And if you're so obsessed about not buying an EA game because they are big bad and evil, why are you buying any video games from any company? I guarentee you every video game maker and publisher does some underhanded things, so don't kid yourself.
 
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I find your double standard a bit odd. You don't want to buy a game from the big bad evil EA, yet you pirate the game which then cause junk like DRM.

Say what you want to about EA, but it's people like you who make crap like DRM a reality. So now your doing more harm then good. Thanks jackass.

Add to that, this game was created by one guy inside of Tiburon EA (the folks reponsible for every last Madden game). EA gave him the green light, but if sales aren't strong because folks like yourself sit so high and mighty on your pedestal of double standards, then all we'll see is the same Madden drivel every year.

And if you're so obsessed about not buying an EA game because they are big bad and evil, why are you buying any video games from any company? I guarentee you every video game maker and publisher does some underhanded things, so don't kid yourself.
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Yup. It's not very often that I agree with Jedah Doma, but he's right. Pwned. And if it's an entirely moral issue to you, you shouldn't own an R4 AT ALL, since the only use for that type of device is piracy. (Yeah, there's the homebrew argument, but how many people use a flash cart for only pure homebrew games? Even homebrew emulators rely on copyrighted games to be useful.)


EDIT: This is like people who think that Wal-Mart is evil, but they still shop at Target.
 
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You guys have some good points, but as I said, I'm not going to get into the piracy debate, hence no retort.

Rest assured that while I respect that your arguments were polite and thought out, you have not changed my ideology (surprise, I know).
 
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Mad Mage said:
You guys have some good points, but as I said, I'm not going to get into the piracy debate, hence no retort.

Rest assured that while I respect that your arguments were polite and thought out, you have not changed my ideology (surprise, I know).
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Ideology and hypocrisy are two different things my friend.
 
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Jedah Doma said:
Ideology and hypocrisy are two different things my friend.
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Jedah, you're on fire in this thread, I totally agree. :D

Anyways, MM, I appreciate that you're polite about this, but it you're not swayed by a rational argument, I don't know what to tell you. Generally, I don't get on the case of pirates, since I at least try not to pass judgment on people unnecessarily. But you seem to have an attitude where you think not only is piracy okay, it's the moral thing to do. And kid, you're just plain wrong. Sorry.
 
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Jedah, you're on fire in this thread, I totally agree. :D

Anyways, MM, I appreciate that you're polite about this, but it you're not swayed by a rational argument, I don't know what to tell you. Generally, I don't get on the case of pirates, since I at least try not to pass judgment on people unnecessarily. But you seem to have an attitude where you think not only is piracy okay, it's the moral thing to do. And kid, you're just plain wrong. Sorry.
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Now twice we agree? This is what having sex before marriage must feel like! :)
 
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HeartlessNinny said:
Jedah, you're on fire in this thread, I totally agree. :D

Anyways, MM, I appreciate that you're polite about this, but it you're not swayed by a rational argument, I don't know what to tell you. Generally, I don't get on the case of pirates, since I at least try not to pass judgment on people unnecessarily. But you seem to have an attitude where you think not only is piracy okay, it's the moral thing to do. And kid, you're just plain wrong. Sorry.
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Moral thing to do? I'm not trying to make an argument for piracy? I don't want to have an argument about piracy. I specifically stated that I will not argue about piracy in this thread. If you wish to argue with someone about piracy, I'm sure there are people out there who will do so.

If not making a counter argument means I am "owned" or "pwned", or whatever, than so be it. But really, the only reason I mentioned I had it on R4 was to say that I have played it and like the game. Perhaps I should not have added that I feel justified in doing so. I added that bit along with the statement that I will not argue about piracy in this thread, in an attempt to keep such debate out of this threat. Obviously, that was naive of me.
 
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Mad Mage said:
Moral thing to do? I'm not trying to make an argument for piracy? I don't want to have an argument about piracy. I specifically stated that I will not argue about piracy in this thread. If you wish to argue with someone about piracy, I'm sure there are people out there who will do so.

If not making a counter argument means I am "owned" or "pwned", or whatever, than so be it. But really, the only reason I mentioned I had it on R4 was to say that I have played it and like the game. Perhaps I should not have added that I feel justified in doing so. I added that bit along with the statement that I will not argue about piracy in this thread, in an attempt to keep such debate out of this threat. Obviously, that was naive of me.
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We're not here to argue about piracy either. Simply put, you faulted a company for doing something against the law, when you yourself are doing something against the law.

Bottom line, don't go throwing rocks if you live in a glass house.

I'm not gonna beat a dead horse here. I think we've come to an impass.

All folks really need to know is they should BUY this game (as in with currency) because it's well worth it no matter what evil dictatorship of a company published it.

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I faulted a company for doing something I deem morally reprehensible.

I don't demand that you judge EA's business practices the same way, but anyone would admit there is certainly an argument for it if one considers the Madden debacle, DRM, and DLC.

I think the disconnect between us is that I don't see why I am obligated to buy their games even if I find certain games desirable. I'm not a capitalist; I believe I can decide where what little spending money I have have goes better than the market can. Rest assured, more of it goes towards gaming than 99% of people. If I prefer to spend it on smaller companies, while 'stealing' a game or two from EA, I don't see why I become morally hypocritical.

There is no denying that piracy is a complicated issue, but so is corporate responsibility. The likelihood of us coming to mutual ground is unlikely, so perhaps the issue can be dropped, as I have stated many times I did not intend to raise it (indeed, I should have realized I was speaking on an internet forum where such fruitless topics are pursued beyond reason)
 
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