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petieken
03-10-2009, 06:11 PM
Hey everyone,
I just got Samurai Shodown IV :), it came in a transparent cartridge with a fake label.
I took some pictures of the pcb's. On first sight they look legitimate to me but the fake label made me worry a bit. So here are the pics:
bottom (http://picasaweb.google.be/lh/photo/20OdBBHb8rTsbCtpQlRR6A?authkey=Gv1sRgCMXk4KP_lbHai QE&feat=directlink)
top (http://picasaweb.google.be/lh/photo/s0TQMQ37f0CuZxhKHTw_pg?authkey=Gv1sRgCMXk4KP_lbHai QE&feat=directlink)

I guess they are real, what do you people think?

Jag-Master
03-10-2009, 06:39 PM
It's legit

chewurface
03-11-2009, 05:21 PM
It's legit

Seconded!

Murray
03-11-2009, 05:38 PM
Fake shells and labels don't mean anything. And yeah, looks real to me too.

mmsadda
03-11-2009, 05:45 PM
^yeah, Murray, but all of us have to learn that shiat somehow.

OP, I don't have to guess to tell you it's legit. That is, unless SNK makes its own bootlegs now *kehehe*

petieken
03-12-2009, 09:07 AM
Thanks for the replies.
I'm pretty new to the neo geo scene. I have my MVS motherboard for about 2-3 years now, and I finally started buying games for it. :)
Thanks to this forum and it's search button I learned a lot already about neo geo.

Can you guys tell me about the obvious signs of a bootleg/legit cart? So that I don't have to post pics everytime I buy a new game. I read somewhere that flash chips definitely indicate a boot but other than that I'm a bit clueless.

Kunio
03-12-2009, 10:22 AM
If you see a chip inside with an MX logo on it, it's time to get wary. If you see one or two or sometimes even four windowed eproms (SS3/KOF95/MOTW for instance) there is no need to worry, but when you get a cart where every chip is windowed, it's a boot. Small surface mounted chips mounted onto adapters and then soldered to the boards is a dead on sign of bootlegging.

To find an original, look at the chips inside the cart. If you find a number on the chips that matches the master list on this site, you are safe. For example SS2 is #063, so if you open an SS2 cart and find a full set of chips stamped 063, your're safe. This even applies to a cart with one or a few windowed eproms. Those ones are usually SNK after production fixes.

A fake label or a board with an SNK logo means absolutely nothing. There are many many real carts with a fake english label slapped over the original Japanese one as well as many many carts with original SNK boards but with swapped chips that are fake.

If you stay away from MX-chips, adapter mounted SMD-chips and full sets of windowed eproms, you are generally safe. It's not that difficult, really..

chewurface
03-12-2009, 12:51 PM
Here's a guide to spotting boots, with pictures!

http://loopyeddie.com/bootleg.html

Good stuff there, yup. :vik:

petieken
03-12-2009, 02:23 PM
Thanks for the pointers and the link to the website! Now I'm gonna play some Samurai Shodown IV :vik:

Kunio
03-13-2009, 08:55 AM
Here's a guide to spotting boots, with pictures!
http://loopyeddie.com/bootleg.html
Good stuff there, yup. :vik:

A picture says more than a thousand words, and that link had A LOT of pictures. Thanks, man! :)