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Autobotclown owner of animation town, Neo city arcade.This post is for any arcade problems. I will reply with truth full answers and not some made up bullshit.I own about 15 neos with us and jap slots and jamma boards. I will check post ever day reply any tech help for free. autobotclown@yahoo.com 817-589-9189
only arcade questions I know nothing about home systems at all. Fist off all neo geo slots come in stero no options no early or latter models all of them are in stero. If any body tells you different or trys to sell you one its bullshit.You can fix anything on a arcade machine as long as youre moniter works.And all neo can play jamma and neo games just have to change speaker wire set up.

autobotclown, FOR TECH FORUM MODERATOR!!

Where is JMKurz anyway? Too mutch todo i guess..

autobot gets my vote as well!im sick of bullshit answers,and tail chasen!

yeah... i practically live at the animation town arcade... autobotclown knows his shit.. i second that notion to make him moderator... also, hes gonna throw a wicked neo party come june 16th..

=R=

about the stereo...

what with the newer Mv1-FZ and MV1-B 1-slots? they are definitely mono only (and this time it's real for sure!).

for the 1-B theres a stereo-mod, but what's up with the 1-FZ?

LFO

I'm here... I just normally answer questions about home systems. Most of the latest Q's in here have been answered before, or are kinda off-topic. Some questions, others answer quicker than I can get around to it, which is nice...

Plus, I really don't mess around with JAMMA boards, etc. It's nice to see that someone else wants to lend a hand to handle the other end of the Neo!

Jeff

Nice to see you JMKurtz! The true Noe Geo home sys tech wizard. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

It would be nice to have autobotclown as a tech moderator aswell. Like you said, he knows the Jamma/MVS part. And I have a MVS cabinet, like many others. It's still Neo but 2 different hardware's.

for the mv stereo question are you talking about the new produced mvs a and b? Im not quite sure what you are talking about.

glad to help

Originally posted by autobotclown:
<STRONG>Autobotclown owner of animation town, Neo city arcade.This post is for any arcade problems. I will reply with truth full answers and not some made up bullshit.I own about 15 neos with us and jap slots and jamma boards. I will check post ever day reply any tech help for free. autobotclown@yahoo.com 817-589-9189
only arcade questions I know nothing about home systems at all. Fist off all neo geo slots come in stero no options no early or latter models all of them are in stero. If any body tells you different or trys to sell you one its bullshit.You can fix anything on a arcade machine as long as youre moniter works.And all neo can play jamma and neo games just have to change speaker wire set up.</STRONG>

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Well I have a mvs main board that is NEO-MVH SLOT1F and it has a option for stereo and mono. If you want post and I will scan a pic.

the mv-1f is exactly the baord i currently use. but to my knowledge it could be the last 1-slot board with stereo/mono switching option.

one other board i had was an MV-1FZ, the next smaller version with standard JAMMA pinout and no stereo sound...

i always thougt that with a small mod it must be possible to get stereo out of it, but i never found any info about this.

also, there exists an ultra-short (shorter than a cart) MV-1B 1-slot board, for wich i found a stereo-conversion guide (apparently it's mono only without that mod!)
i will submit the link later coz i'm at work riht now.

LFO

so here's the link:
http://server39.hypermart.net/mcpatconsulting/neogeo.htm

LFO

yes i know about the speacial neos. but all mvs slots one - six is what im talking about.these that you guys are showing are slots used for certain types of neo games like irratating maze that is why they are given names like mv-1 and stuff like that they are not mvs slots.maybe only 2% of collecter have those then that 2% talks about stero switch and mode this and that.which then sets off the other 98% in a wild ride of finding the magical stero button.in a post some where here a person ask where the memory plugs up to and some one told him in the head phones slot.no it does not. just buy a regular slot and there will be no probs about hooking it up.they others contain no memory ports and dont have the other options.i have jamma boards that have some jacked up speaker wiring but im not going to post that jack up way of setting the speakers when 99% dont have that kind of set up.later i will post a picture of a standard slot and where every things plugs into.

are you kidding me?

MV1, MV2 and so on is not a normal MVS board name?? did you recently had a look at the manuals from SNK? there they are reffering to the boards as MV1-F (or other), MV2-F, MV4-F and so on.

here you can download one or the other manual: http://www.crosswinds.net/~billkwando/mvsmanual.html

and sorry that i have to correct you again, but the MV1-FZ is no special board for any special controller but one smaller and cheaper (because all additional features like stereo sound, mem-card connects and joystick ports are removed) version for smaller arcades. it is okay that you don't know that, but (like you accuse others for) making definite statements in a case where you don't have all the facts is not ok.

for the stereo-switch:

i know (and i have never said a different thing) that 2 to 6 slots have no stereo switch, because they are indeed ALL stereo. but the older 1-slots definetly have!
i don't know if you are aware of the fact that the JAMMA-standard originally was designed only for MONO. ANY board that is using stereo sound has to modify the standard pinout somewhat. that is why the SNK MVS has a special pinout for stereo-sound. to make the 1-slots compatible with mono-only cabs SNK provided the switch.
i think that was done only at the 1-slots because they were sold as kits for use in standars JAMMA-type cabs, wereas the 2 to 6-slots were sold within the SNK MVS-cab, that has a speciel JAMMA wiring. (but that is a speculation of mine, don't jump on me for this)

details of the MVS pinouts do you find here (with an MV1-FZ pic):
http://freespace.virgin.net/chad.gray/neo_geo_info.htm


and before you type in your standard reply "don't know what this guy is talking about", go on and read the manuals (written by SNK) and the info i provided here.

maybe the guys from SNK or Chad didn't know what they were talking about either??

sincerly,
LFO

Originally posted by autobotclown:
<STRONG>yes i know about the speacial neos. but all mvs slots one - six is what im talking about.these that you guys are showing are slots used for certain types of neo games like irratating maze that is why they are given names like mv-1 and stuff like that they are not mvs slots.maybe only 2% of collecter have those then that 2% talks about stero switch and mode this and that.which then sets off the other 98% in a wild ride of finding the magical stero button.in a post some where here a person ask where the memory plugs up to and some one told him in the head phones slot.no it does not. just buy a regular slot and there will be no probs about hooking it up.they others contain no memory ports and dont have the other options.i have jamma boards that have some jacked up speaker wiring but im not going to post that jack up way of setting the speakers when 99% dont have that kind of set up.later i will post a picture of a standard slot and where every things plugs into.</STRONG>

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"Fist off all neo geo slots come in stero no options no early or latter models all of them are in stero. "

"yes i know about the speacial neos. but all mvs slots one - six is what im talking about.these that you guys are showing are slots used for certain types of neo games like irratating maze that is why they are given names like mv-1 and stuff like that they are not mvs slots."

You yourself said "ALL".
I dont think that anything here is "made up bullshit" This forum is very legit.
The board I showcased works for EVERY neo mvs title.
It was not specially designed for irratating maze there is another one that is and as I hear it works only with it, (track ball etc.)
This has the so called "mythical switch" that some deny dont exist.
This is a excellent board, IMO.
I have a pic that I am featuring below from a previous post to help someone and there memory card problem.




right below the volume adjuster is the switch that reads stereo and mono.
Where is your arguement on all of them being stereo?
I just would like to know <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

as i said, the same MV-1F as i currently use. <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

but one thing in the pic is incorrect:
the jacks on the right side are for headphones only!!!

the MV1-F does *not* have memory card connections!!

LFO

My 1-slot is as in the above picture.

Anyone with one know what the two connectors are, which are below the speaker terminal, just out of shot??

Cheers

Oops, it's not the same layout.

Mine has the large black connector immediately beneath the speaker connector.

Anyway, anyone know what it's for??

BTW, it's a 60pin molex type connector, and there's two of them.

And 202lfo, that link to the 1slot manual doesn't work. Anywhere else I can get that info??

Cheers

Mark

i have a 1 slot manual somewhere ill find it out and upload it in a min

i not fighting with you but that kind of board does not have the memory card slot or the credit conter from the looks of the picture I have a old snk jap ordering book all the slots are on one page and all the other slots are on another one says mvs slots and all the rest say somthing else in jap. the slot you have might be the ones used for the jap mcdonalds neo.now here is my point those boards like you have are hard to get and are not standard slots.and i will repeat what i said before you say switch the stero and every one on the standars are looking for this magical switch. when I said all slots I was taliking about the standard slots not special mcdonalds slots and all the other special things that came out.in my order book there is about 14 other kinds of slots one looks like it was used for bowling to get 4 players but im not sure.on the jamma thing they plug into standard jamma conections(there are also of tons of jack up jamma styles like the first dbz games and kankeo games)the neo plugs in and will work.all you have to do is change the peaker wire set up. just like every one was saying you cant play jamma on a neo cab and i have three cabs setting right her in front of me with jamma games in it.when rancor first came to my arcade he believed all that junk too then i just showed him how to do it with out messing with pins or jacking with wire all you have to do is change the speaker wire set up on the speakers.all i do up here is fix these machines.to fix these stero this and no stero that i will post a picture of a slot and where everything plugs into. and if you have a one in a million slot and it doesnt look like the one in the pic then you will know you have one. by the way where you going to be able to make it to the tourny? I dont think you every gave a udate on youre staus. hope you can.

large black is for memory card cables

Heres for a link to a 1 slot manual its the MV 1FZ model
www.john2.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/dl/mvsmv1fz.zip

Had 2 edit as i had put spaces in the zip

[ May 23, 2001: Message edited by: Ion ]

Now I'm confused.

On the left side of my 1 slot (with the connector at the top), I've got 4 player inputs, a 1 and 2 player of normalish covered appearance, and below them I've got more player 1 and 2 slots, these two being bare molex connectors.

And what's with mcdonalds?? Am I missing some chips??

Cheers

Mark

Cheers clown/ion.

Ion, I can't get that file. Is the link right??

Cheers

Mark

could anyone tell me what this is for?




it has power amp 1 wrote underneath it, can i connect 2 speaker wires 2 this?

and just for the record my 1 slot is a M1BBV

O and Doughboy i had left gaps in the link name Doh!

[ May 23, 2001: Message edited by: Ion ]