NeoGeo CD Pad question...

CrossCounter · Jan 31, 2009

I purchased a couple of AES games from a vendor at an anime convention a few months ago, and saw that he had a NGCD Pad for sale. However, when I asked his price he informed me that they are actually poorly made in most cases, and the analog has a very high failure rate. I was just curious if anyone else can attest to this or shed a little more light on the matter. Thanks in advance!

Xian Xi · Jan 31, 2009

It's true, the fulcrum leaks into the switches and stops them from working properly but it's fixable.

Neo Alec · Jan 31, 2009

It's not analog.

awbacon · Jan 31, 2009

both cd pads I have work perfectly , although I got them both extremely clean from Play Asia.

Ive hammered them pretty hard on KOF and they have been nothing but responsive.

Of course the AES joysticks are better quality and more suited for the games, but my cd pads so far has been fine...but soon my AES w/pad arrives, so who knows after that!

Koopa64 · Jan 31, 2009

Isn't the D-Pad more of a hatswitch? Or at least given the feel of being analog but technically isn't?

I've heard that thumbstick (sort of) grinds a bit over time and leaves dust in the switches which leads to faulty D-Pads. Sort of like the N64 stick, though I'm not sure if this is correct. Someone feel free to evaluate.

Kunio · Jan 31, 2009

There is one common fault with those ones that involves that the little disc inside the switches that are used inside the d-stick change shape and stop working. Easy fix with a small screwdriver and you even get to keep the click click sound if you do it right.

Xian Xi · Jan 31, 2009

Kunio said:
There is one common fault with those ones that involves that the little disc inside the switches that are used inside the d-stick change shape and stop working. Easy fix with a small screwdriver and you even get to keep the click click sound if you do it right.

It's not the disc alone, it's the fulcrum. The powder that is created from the abrasion of the stick rubbing against it makes a power that gets into the switch preventing the switch to close properly. But you need to clean the disc of the fulcrum to fix it.

Neo Alec · Feb 1, 2009

awbacon said:
both cd pads I have work perfectly , although I got them both extremely clean from Play Asia.

Ive hammered them pretty hard on KOF and they have been nothing but responsive.

Of course the AES joysticks are better quality and more suited for the games, but my cd pads so far has been fine...but soon my AES w/pad arrives, so who knows after that!

You'll find that they work great until one of the directions stops working or, more likely, is on all the time. Opening and cleaning them out does usually fix it though. I wish I'd known how to do it back in the day, because I destroyed mine trying to fix it.

Koopa64 said:
Isn't the D-Pad more of a hatswitch? Or at least given the feel of being analog but technically isn't?

It doesn't feel analog. The clicking has the same feel as the joysticks.

Koopa64 · Feb 1, 2009

It doesn't feel analog. The clicking has the same feel as the joysticks.

Ok, so it's basically like a mini digital joystick?

Neo Alec · Feb 1, 2009

Koopa64 said:
Ok, so it's basically like a mini digital joystick?

Right. Same for the Neo Geo Pocket.

I remember an article in a US game magazine when the Neo CD was new, they used the word "smooth" to describe the pads. That seems a little bit less than appropriate to me. I wonder if they had even tried the pads.

CrossCounter · Feb 1, 2009

thanks for all of the info everyone. personally, i am content with the AES stick, but i have a lot of friends who can't use a stick very well at all, so i was going to buy a CD Pad in case someone playing just couldn't use the stick at all.

Xian Xi · Feb 1, 2009

You can always get a Neo>PSX controller adapter from tototek.com

SNKNostalgia · Feb 2, 2009

CrossCounter said:
thanks for all of the info everyone. personally, i am content with the AES stick, but i have a lot of friends who can't use a stick very well at all, so i was going to buy a CD Pad in case someone playing just couldn't use the stick at all.

Heh, my friend couldn't play on original AES joysticks to save his life. So, he had to use my Neo CD pads. He still would have problems pulling off moves and say even the pad isn't that good for him but better than the stick. I play on the sticks almost flawless, but I play on the pads with the occasional mess ups.

The trick to an arcade stick is you have to get used to it overtime. He would hold the stick kinda angled and that was the start of his problem right there. You gotta be precise with your motions. He just doesn't get the angles, timing and motion ranges right. It is funny since he would always play Tekken 3 and Tag back in the day on arcade and he sucked on those versions. Some people just suck at using arcade sticks. It just blows my mind since they are actually better for fighters.

Kunio · Feb 2, 2009

Xian Xi said:
It's not the disc alone, it's the fulcrum. The powder that is created from the abrasion of the stick rubbing against it makes a power that gets into the switch preventing the switch to close properly. But you need to clean the disc of the fulcrum to fix it.

I didn't know that. I always thought the disc got bent just above the pin from use and thus stopped making contact. I used to take the disc out and scratch both the disc and the pin with a screwdriver, clean both and then put the disc back. It worked for me, but I'll try just cleaning if I come across this problem again. Thanks!

Dr. Jigglin · Feb 2, 2009

Is this the d-pad controller or the CD sticks?

Btw are there any known problems with CD sticks?

Koopa64 · Feb 2, 2009

lachlan said:
Is this the d-pad controller or the CD sticks?

Btw are there any known problems with CD sticks?

We're talking about the Neo gamepad that was packaged with the Neo CD. Are you referring to the bean-style sticks?

This is a Neo Geo CD Pad:

This is a Neo Geo CD stick (or bean-style):

Dr. Jigglin · Feb 3, 2009

Ahh I knew it.

I was about to panic as I've got one of those bean-style sticks. Thanks for clarifying.

Neo Alec · Feb 3, 2009

That's the "Pro" joystick.

Koopa64 · Feb 3, 2009

Oh yeah, that's another name for it (isn't it the official?), the only thing I could remember off the top of my head was "bean-style".

Ludicrous Gibs! · Apr 11, 2009

Hey everyone... apologies for the thread necromancy, but I have a question that I don't think is worth a brand-new thread.

I recently got my old AES out of my parents' attic, and I've discovered that my gamepad isn't registering down or left anymore. I know a couple of posters said above that it's an easy fix most of the time, but I cracked the thing open and can't figure out how to get the front side of the PCB. The d-pad disc seems to be anchored to the PCB, making it impossible to separate the PCB and the front half of the controller shell. There's a set of 4 clips that I think might be holding the d-pad assembly in place, but I think I've already broken one of them trying to separate it that way, and I'd rather not do any more damage.

Xian Xi · Apr 12, 2009

You need to pry up the d-pad with a screwdriver, I use a pocket knife myself.

jediurchin · Apr 12, 2009

This should make it easier to follow: http://www.gamesx.com/controldata/neopadfix.htm

Neo Alec · Apr 13, 2009

That's how I broke a pad as a teenager. I couldn't figure it out and there were no directions back then.

jediurchin · Apr 14, 2009

Yeah. Ive also destroyed a pad before coming accross that guide

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