Euro 2008 - Germany - Spain Final in Vienna!!

[Takumaji]

The fun started on Saturday with the first match Switzerland - Czech Republic (0:1) at 6 pm CEST, followed by Portugal - Turkey (2:0) at 8:45 pm CEST!

Here is a list of all groups, matches, finals and scores:

- The Groups -

Group A

Switzerland
Portugal
Czech Republic
Turkey

Group B

Austria
Poland
Croatia
Germany

Group C

Netherlands
Italy
Romania
France

Group D

Greece
Spain
Sweden
Russia


- The Matches -

6/7/08 (Group A)

Switzerland - Czech Republic (Basel, Switzerland) -- 0:1
Portugal - Turkey (Geneva, Switzerland) -- 2:0

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6/8/08 (Group B)

Austria - Croatia (Vienna, Austria) -- 0:1
Germany - Poland (Klagenfurt, Austria) -- 2:0

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6/9/08 (Group C)

Romania - France (Zurich, Switzerland) -- 0:0
Netherlands - Italy (Bern, Switzerland) -- 3:0

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6/10/08 (Group D)

Spain - Russia (Innsbruck, Austria) -- 4:1
Greece - Sweden (Salzburg, Austria) -- 0:2

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6/11/08 (Group A)

Czech Republic - Portugal (Geneva, Switzerland) -- 1:3
Switzerland - Turkey (Basel, Switzerland) -- 1:2

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6/12/08 (Group B)

Croatia - Germany (Klagenfurt, Austria) -- 2:1
Austria - Poland (Vienna, Austria) -- 1:1

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6/13/08 (Group C)

Italy - Romania (Zurich, Switzerland) -- 1:1
Netherlands - France (Bern, Switzerland) -- 4:1

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6/14/08 (Group D)

Sweden - Spain (Innsbruck, Austria) -- 1:2
Greece - Russia (Salzburg, Austria) -- 0:1

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6/15/08 (Group A)

Switzerland - Portugal (Basel, Switzerland) -- 2:0
Turkey - Czech Republic (Geneva, Switzerland) -- 3:2

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6/16/08 (Group B)

Austria - Germany (Vienna, Austria) -- 0:1
Poland - Croatia (Klagenfurt, Austria) -- 0:1

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6/17/08 (Group C)

Netherlands - Romania (Bern, Switzerland) -- 2:0
France - Italy (Zurich, Switzerland) -- 0:2

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6/18/08 (Group D)

Greece - Spain (Salzburg, Austria) -- 1:2
Russia - Sweden (Innsbruck, Austria) -- 2:0


--Quarter Finals--

6/19/08

Portugal - Germany (Basel, Switzerland) -- 2:3

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6/20/08

Croatia - Turkey (Vienna, Austria) -- 2:4 (1:1, PK = 1:3)

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6/21/08

Holland - Russia (Basel, Switzerland) -- 1:3

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6/22/08

Spain - Italy (Vienna, Austria) 4:3 (PK)


--Semi Finals--

6/25/08

Germany - Turkey (Basel, Switzerland) -- 3:2

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6/26/08

Spain - Russia (Vienna, Austria) -- 3:0


--Final--

6/29/08

Germany - Spain (Vienna, Austria) -- 0:1


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... and the winner is: Spain!

Congratulations!

[Takumaji]

Nom nom nom nom...

Am I the only one who's excited about Euro 2k8?

[Xander Crews]

Here are my predictions

Group A

Portugal
Turkey

Group B

Germany
Croatia

Group C

Italy
France

Group D

Sweden
Spain

pretty straightforward except for Turkey and Sweden. You may expect Czech and Russia to make it to round two, but I don't.

Round two I expect to see Spain knocked out by Italy or France. Croatia to get knocked out by Portugal, and Turkey to get knocked out by Germany.

Some explanations -
Portugal is going to play the sexiest football in this cup. CR17 is in his golden year. Carvalho, Nani, Nuno, Deco, Quaresma, Simao, Bosingwa - Portugal is a lot better than people are crediting them, but this is because...

Italy and Germany are favorites in a huge way. Problem is that Italy, with all its power, is kind of shakey to me. Cannavaro is out, and now Buffon is the captain, which is cool in a Dino Zoff kind of way, but it's a huge loss. They don't have amazing firepower here. It's a counterattacking team, but now without Nesta (retired from international play) and Cannavaro (torn ligaments).

Germany is a funny team, in my opinion. I don't like Lehmann. Apparently neither does Arsenal anymore. I don't like Arsenal either. The one thing I like on Germany is Mario Gomez. Klose will score a bunch of goals against Poland and Austria, then be quiet the rest of the tournament as he shuts down against good teams. Podolski will likely be bailing the team out instead of Klose. Frings and Ballack will likely be carrying the team on their shoulders. People will say Schweinsteiger's name just because it sounds funny.

As for Sweden, this is probably one of the most offensive teams right now, even though it looks week on paper. Zlatan goes without saying, but they also have Kim Kallstrom, who is a lot like Lampard, except younger and without the beergut. Rocket footed and can play the entire midfield. However, some things aren't nice here, Ljundberg is probably still too injured to play a full match. As such, Russia, led by manager Guus Hiddink, may move forward to face Italy once again. But still, Sweden cannot be underestimated. They are not easy to beat ever.

Guus Hiddink and Italy have a strange history. His Korea team knocked them out of WC2002, then Italy knocked out his Australian team in WC2006. This one man is Italy's biggest rival in my opinion.

This weekend Portugal will probably tear Turkey apart 3-1. Czech will draw Switzerland.

[kobylka68]

Nom nom nom nom...

Am I the only one who's excited about Euro 2k8?

No, you're not the only one. I'm incredibly excited. I'm really looking forward to the Poland Germany match. Short of some massive screw up Germany should be able to take it all this year.

[Atro]

Here are my predictions

Group A

Portugal
Turkey

Group B

Germany
Croatia

Group C

Italy
France

Group D

Sweden
Spain

pretty straightforward except for Turkey and Sweden. You may expect Czech and Russia to make it to round two, but I don't.

Round two I expect to see Spain knocked out by Italy or France. Croatia to get knocked out by Portugal, and Turkey to get knocked out by Germany.

Some explanations -
Portugal is going to play the sexiest football in this cup. CR17 is in his golden year. Carvalho, Nani, Nuno, Deco, Quaresma, Simao, Bosingwa - Portugal is a lot better than people are crediting them, but this is because...

Italy and Germany are favorites in a huge way. Problem is that Italy, with all its power, is kind of shakey to me. Cannavaro is out, and now Buffon is the captain, which is cool in a Dino Zoff kind of way, but it's a huge loss. They don't have amazing firepower here. It's a counterattacking team, but now without Nesta (retired from international play) and Cannavaro (torn ligaments).

Germany is a funny team, in my opinion. I don't like Lehmann. Apparently neither does Arsenal anymore. I don't like Arsenal either. The one thing I like on Germany is Mario Gomez. Klose will score a bunch of goals against Poland and Austria, then be quiet the rest of the tournament as he shuts down against good teams. Podolski will likely be bailing the team out instead of Klose. Frings and Ballack will likely be carrying the team on their shoulders. People will say Schweinsteiger's name just because it sounds funny.

As for Sweden, this is probably one of the most offensive teams right now, even though it looks week on paper. Zlatan goes without saying, but they also have Kim Kallstrom, who is a lot like Lampard, except younger and without the beergut. Rocket footed and can play the entire midfield. However, some things aren't nice here, Ljundberg is probably still too injured to play a full match. As such, Russia, led by manager Guus Hiddink, may move forward to face Italy once again. But still, Sweden cannot be underestimated. They are not easy to beat ever.

Guus Hiddink and Italy have a strange history. His Korea team knocked them out of WC2002, then Italy knocked out his Australian team in WC2006. This one man is Italy's biggest rival in my opinion.

This weekend Portugal will probably tear Turkey apart 3-1. Czech will draw Switzerland.

You never stop to amaze me with your football predictions ! ^^

sweden might do well. I like them.
I just think people might have to respect a bit more the greeks.
I know their football style reeks, but it's effective and they are also on the run.

It'll be a superb tournament.

[Takumaji]

Hey, that was a nice first Euro 2k8 matchday.

Switzerland - Czech Republic (0:1):

Hmmm... overall the Czechs have the better and more experienced players but the 0:1 against the Swiss was pure luck. In this match, Switzerland was the better team but they really have to work on their offense and precision. Oh, and I really feel for Alexander Frei, captain of the team, EM 2k8 is over for him before it really started... same shit happened to Koller two years ago. Switzerland would have deserved to win this and the Czechs could do better... ...MUCH better.

Portugal - Turkey (2:0):

Portugal won as expected but IMO Turkey did a good job in keeping Portugal's star players at bay, specially during the end of 1st and beginning of 2nd half. Portugal kinda lost the focus from 45: to 60:, then increased the pressure again and consequently scored the first goal, Pepe's double-pass goal was really amazing. Anyway, Turkey had some nice chances on their feet but didn't make it through the well-placed Portuguese defense. Overall, Portugal has shown their favorite status quite nicely.

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I'm really looking forward to the 2nd match of today: Germany - Poland. There already were minor riots last night between German and Polish fans, the atmosphere is heating up with every minute that goes by, you can almost grab it.

We'll have a EM party tonight at my place with barbecue and beer, hope the thunderstorms cease by then, at the mo it's raining cats and dogs over here...

As for my predictions, I hope for a 2:1 for Germany. Poland SO wants to win this match so this is going to be rough.

[kobylka68]

I think the Poland Germany game will be very tight. Germany just barely pulled off a victory at the world cup 2006 and both teams have improved quite a bit since then. This will definately be the best match so far in the tournament.

[Takumaji]

Germany - Poland 2:0. Podolski's the man.

Good match, relatively fair/not as rough as I expected. Lehmann and Mertesacker did a good job at destroying the Polish chances IMO, they seem to be in tune now, I was slightly worried about that after the last test match.

Tomorrow will be another great matchday with two "killer group" events, looking forward to Holland - Italy. Oranje always was and always will be my 2nd-fave team after Germany so I hope they'll make it. Will be tough but I think it's doable.

[Atro]

Oranje always was and always will be my 2nd-fave team after Germany so I hope they'll make it. Will be tough but I think it's doable.

YEah, I always liked them as a Kid ( Van Basten ftw !!! )

They play a sexy football too.

[kobylka68]

Germany played phenomenal football. Podolski makes scoring seem so easy. I can only hope Klinsmann will give him a regular spot on the Bayern Munich squad next season. Poland made a couple of glaring mistakes but other than that played alright. They have the talent to progress from the group.

[Xander Crews]

Couple of things

Podolski plays well internationally, not on the club level. May need to change his club.

Oranje haven't played sexy football in years (since 2000 right).

Mario Gomez was a let down. Obvious he has incredible talent, but he missed some real chances.

Germany was not trying hard. Poland were playing their asses off. This was apparent from the beginning. The difference in skill is phenomenal.

[Takumaji]

Yep, our lads are in good shape, that's for sure. According to Ballack, quote, "we never had such a long and tough training before", and it seems to pay off.

One of the most remarkable players besides Podolski was Clemens Fritz, aggressive, quick, precise and fearless, that's how I like it. He just has to make sure not to overdo it, that was the reason why Löw took him out and sent in Schweini instead.

Poland improved a lot since 2006, Leo Beenhakkers did a good job here. They're on a good way, next stop is Austria come Thursday, won't be that difficult for Poland I guess. Just like the first line of the Polish national anthem says: Jeszcze Polska nie zginęła - Poland has not perished yet! :)

About Oranje and sexy football, maybe it's not South America-sexy but definitely Central Europe-sexy... they have a good team and very good players who have found a nice middle-of-the-road style between artsy-fartsy Ronaldo footy and good old pressing and fighting, and that makes them unique over here IMO.

First match today will be Romania - France. This is France's "year one" after Zidane so to speak, let's see how the equipe with oldies like Makelele and Thuram can cope with that. Oh, and don't write off Romania too soon, they sit in a very tough group now but have some very talented players (Mutu, etc.) that aren't on the same level as some of their French colleagues but are still hungry, something that can't be said of some French stars...

[Xander Crews]

First match today will be Romania - France. This is France's "year one" after Zidane so to speak, let's see how the equipe with oldies like Makelele and Thuram can cope with that. Oh, and don't write off Romania too soon, they sit in a very tough group now but have some very talented players (Mutu, etc.) that aren't on the same level as some of their French colleagues but are still hungry, something that can't be said of some French stars...


I disagree about Netherlands still playing sexy football. When Overmars left, sexy football left the national team as well. Now they have VDV and Sneijder who are technically sound, but not sexy. Kuyt will never be a great footballer. RVN can only score in the box, and will one day be compared Kluivery for prolific striker with dumbest luck. I see no hope for this mish-mash team.

In the case of Romania, I'm going to write them off because France is still a really good team.

ROMANIA

1 Bogdan Lobont (G)
5 Cristian Chivu (D)
2 Cosmin Contra (D)
3 Razvan Dinca Rat (D)
4 Gabriel Sebastian Tamas (D)
15 Dorin Goian (D)
6 Mirel Matei Radoi (M)
16 Banel Nicolita (M)
11 Razvan Cocis (M)
10 Adrian Mutu (F)
21 Daniel George Niculae (F)


FRANCE

23 Gregory Coupet (G)
5 William Gallas (D)
3 Eric Abidal (D)
19 Willy Sagnol (D)
15 Lilian Thuram (D)
7 Florent Malouda (M)
6 Claude Makelele (M)
20 Jeremy Toulalan (M)
22 Franck Ribery (M)
8 Nicolas Anelka (F)
9 Karim Benzema (F)

I know it needs to be reminded over and over, but Benzema is going to rock this tournament. Coupet and Toulalan are also great players.

[Takumaji]

1st half of Romania - France is over... France is playing in safe-mode and the Romanians rely on defense and the occasional counter, read, it's a quite tactical chess-like match so far.

I don't get why Domenech put Ribery on that strange position... seems like a waste to me.

And that ref is a dork.

[Xander Crews]

is there a live internet feed?

[Lets Gekiga In]

1st half of Romania - France is over... France is playing in safe-mode and the Romanians rely on defense and the occasional counter, read, it's a quite tactical chess-like match so far.

I don't get why Domenech put Ribery on that strange position... seems like a waste to me.

And that ref is a dork.

France should've won that game. Too many chances to score and they just didn't capitalize.

[Takumaji]

Charlie,

Well, German TV shows all matches so I just have to switch on my telly! :)

For live broadcasts/internet feed, browse over to http://zattoo.com , they offer a free client program and broadcast service for 50+ int'l TV stations and Euro 2k8 feeds. Haven't tried it myself but it seems to work quite well from what I've heard.

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So... the match is over. Boring 0:0.

I think it's safe to say that Romania can NOT be written off, they really can hold up against the bigger teams. The Dutch already know it, now France knows too.

Gekika,

France could have won but shouldn't have, their game was not up to par with their overall skills.

[ratson]

I disagree about Netherlands still playing sexy football. When Overmars left, sexy football left the national team as well. Now they have VDV and Sneijder who are technically sound, but not sexy. Kuyt will never be a great footballer. RVN can only score in the box, and will one day be compared Kluivery for prolific striker with dumbest luck. I see no hope for this mish-mash team.

In the case of Romania, I'm going to write them off because France is still a really good team.

ROMANIA

1 Bogdan Lobont (G)
5 Cristian Chivu (D)
2 Cosmin Contra (D)
3 Razvan Dinca Rat (D)
4 Gabriel Sebastian Tamas (D)
15 Dorin Goian (D)
6 Mirel Matei Radoi (M)
16 Banel Nicolita (M)
11 Razvan Cocis (M)
10 Adrian Mutu (F)
21 Daniel George Niculae (F)


FRANCE

23 Gregory Coupet (G)
5 William Gallas (D)
3 Eric Abidal (D)
19 Willy Sagnol (D)
15 Lilian Thuram (D)
7 Florent Malouda (M)
6 Claude Makelele (M)
20 Jeremy Toulalan (M)
22 Franck Ribery (M)
8 Nicolas Anelka (F)
9 Karim Benzema (F)

I know it needs to be reminded over and over, but Benzema is going to rock this tournament. Coupet and Toulalan are also great players.

if you are watching the match what did you say about kuyt again its 2 to 0 already VIVA ITALIAHAHAHAHA

[Takumaji]

Snijder and Nistelrooy may not play particularly sexy but they ain't too shabby scorers either, eh.

2:0 for Holland.

Where's Italy's fabled defense? Ah well, let's see what happens in 2nd half. Great game so far.

[Xander Crews]

The game is ridiculous.

Netherlands are owning the Italians in a huge way.
Time to take out Ambrosini and put on Del Piero or Di Rossi.

[Takumaji]

Yeah, something is completely wrong here, Italy seems stunned. Make no mistake, they're able to turn tables if they really want to.

2nd half has just started, let's see what changes there will be in the Italian team.

[Xander Crews]

Del Piero in for Di Natale. Dumb. should have taken off Ambrosini. This AC Milan midfield was a complete mistake. Gattuso and Pirlo are legendary, but leave Ambrosini out, please.

[Takumaji]

Holland - Italy 3:0.

I.can't.believe.it.

Amazing match, Holland ran, kicked and scored Italy to the ground. The third goal was luck but hey... overall a disappointing performance by the 2006 world cup winner, I really wonder what's up with them.

[Xander Crews]

Holland - Italy 3:0.

I.can't.believe.it.

Amazing match, Holland ran, kicked and scored Italy to the ground. The third goal was luck but hey... overall a disappointing performance by the 2006 world cup winner, I really wonder what's up with them.

Italy can afford to lose a match, as long as they get points on the next two games. Honestly, I got knocked on these two games today. I wrote off the dutch and they surprised me. I wrote off Romania and they, I dunno... the French played bad. Romania is still not doing shit in this tournament.

[kobylka68]

Holland played a great game. They looked a bit shaky in the middle of the second half but composed themselves enough to score one more. This game along with the France/Romania draw makes group C even more difficult to predict.

[Atro]

The final score could have even been larger, but make no mistake, Holland first goal was a CLEAR off-side.

Even if it ended 3-0 , the match would have been VERY different if that goal wasn't hallowed.

Anyway, the dutch deserved it WITHOUT question. They seemed the "italians" tonight. Congratulations.

[Xander Crews]

The final score could have even been larger, but make no mistake, Holland first goal was a CLEAR off-side.

Even if it ended 3-0 , the match would have been VERY different if that goal wasn't hallowed.

Anyway, the dutch deserved it WITHOUT question. They seemed the "italians" tonight. Congratulations.

I agree. It was a terrible non-call. I felt like the Italians were being bullied by the referee the moment Toni was yellow carded. Then Zambrotta got carded. Suddenly it was clear that the Italians weren't allowed to win this one. They were basically ref'd out of the game.

When you see your team getting carded it kills your momentum. When you concede a goal it kills momentum. The refs decided the momentum. Not the teams.

[Takumaji]

Italy can afford to lose a match, as long as they get points on the next two games. Honestly, I got knocked on these two games today. I wrote off the dutch and they surprised me. I wrote off Romania and they, I dunno... the French played bad. Romania is still not doing shit in this tournament.

Not sure wether they can afford to lose a match in THAT group, things may tighten up in the end and the goal difference may be the decisive factor, then this 3:0 might haunt them.

As for Romania, IMO they played better than most people thought they would, it all depends on their next match.

Atro,

there wouldn't have been much difference today, off-side or not. Italy played worse than Holland and lost, that's really all there is to say.

No need for conspiracy theories, Italian papers will be full of them tomorrow anyway... :D;)

[Xander Crews]

No need for conspiracy theories, Italian papers will be full of them tomorrow anyway... :D;)

Materrazzi to be transfered to Romanians for Chivu on goal.com?

[Takumaji]

Ahahaha, did they say that? Great! :lolz:

[Xander Crews]

Ahahaha, did they say that? Great! :lolz:


No, not said yet, but goal.com can be terrible with fake news.

I will say that the Italians lost like winners. They could have reacted far worse. The French would have reacted far worse.

[ratson]

Ok i made a joke to wasabi earlier but seriously i am dutch live in the netherlands and i can't believe we beat Italy.
I would have been more then happy with a tie we haven't beaten them in 30 fucking years:buttrock:

[ratson]

The final score could have even been larger, but make no mistake, Holland first goal was a CLEAR off-side.

Even if it ended 3-0 , the match would have been VERY different if that goal wasn't hallowed.

Anyway, the dutch deserved it WITHOUT question. They seemed the "italians" tonight. Congratulations.

watch the replay of the 1st goal i am not so sure but then again i am dutch but thanks.my brother was there he had won tickets.:loco:

[Lets Gekiga In]

Gekika,

France could have won but shouldn't have, their game was not up to par with their overall skills.
Having Henry would've been nice as well.

[Xander Crews]

watch the replay of the 1st goal i am not so sure but then again i am dutch but thanks.my brother was there he had won tickets.:loco:

lucky guy.

[Xander Crews]

Having Henry would've been nice as well.

I don't know if he would have helped. The french just played really bad. Anelka has been out of his mind for a while. He at least seemed like he wanted to play more than in the Chelsea final, but goddamn some bad decisions of his... He's truly shit.

[Atro]

I have to eat my words.

Holland 1st goal is valid.
That is due to a rule that refers that a player who's out of the pitch without the referee's authorization counts as if he was in.
Panucci could have been sited in any of the stadium's bench that that goal would still be validated.

[kobylka68]

I have to eat my words.

Holland 1st goal is valid.
That is due to a rule that refers that a player who's out of the pitch without the referee's authorization counts as if he was in.
Panucci could have been sited in any of the stadium's bench that that goal would still be validated.

I thought that might be the reason for the non call. It's good to see that Italy have no excuses for that goal.

[Atro]

there's also a strange thing in this tournament.

All the teams that lost their match, haven't scored.
Lack of luck or not, we're still awaiting for a match with more than one side to score.

Let's wait for Group D to see if it happens in these 2 matches :)

[Atro]

I thought that might be the reason for the non call. It's good to see that Italy have no excuses for that goal.

The most funny thing about that is that most of the journalists don't know that rule and will pain the newspapers as that goal was illegal and will ask for the ref's head.
Unfortunately for them, it's as legal as the 2 others.

[Takumaji]

Day 4 - Today's matches:

Spain - Russia

Greece - Sweden

Russia plays quite well but I guess Spain will make it. Either 2:1 or 1:0 for Spain.

Greece - Sweden will be fun, the Greek are still high on hope and enthusiasm, Sweden will have a hard time with them. It's difficult to predict this one IMO, maybe 1:0 for Greece or 1:1.

[Atro]

it is the most even group of all.

it's hard not only to predict the scores but also who's gonna make it to the next round.

By Hiddink's words, Russia falls to the weakest spot, but it might just be a tactical move to release pressure on his players.

[Xander Crews]

The question for Spain is "who is going to score?!" They have so many weapons it's hard to tell.

As for russia, if they score, Zhirkov will have a part in it.

[Atro]

The question for Spain is "who is going to score?!" They have so many weapons it's hard to tell.

As for russia, if they score, Zhirkov will have a part in it.

Well, 4-1 for the Spaniards.
euforia is the current moment.

let's see how long it lasts.
Not that they're bad ( exactly the opposite ) , but they seem to have the quarter-final syndrome...

[Takumaji]

My prediction was a bit off... Spain - Russia was nice. I overtestimated the Russians, they have a shit defense but a good heart, the head goal was really good.

[Lovecraft0110]

Well, 4-1 for the Spaniards.
euforia is the current moment.

let's see how long it lasts.
Not that they're bad ( exactly the opposite ) , but they seem to have the quarter-final syndrome...

Oi!

Of course we aren't bad! :angry:

But you're right about the euphoria: already Marca, the famous Spanish sports daily, is proclaiming how Villa is "making us all dream"...

May I add, by the way, that Villa hails from the same province I do, Asturias...

[Takumaji]

Half time Greece - Sweden.

Well... ugh... that was the worst first half of Euro 2k8 so far.

The champion does not play champion-like at all, the Swedes really have a good chance to beat them tonight.

[Atro]

Oi!

Of course we aren't bad! :angry:

But you're right about the euphoria: already Marca, the famous Spanish sports daily, is proclaiming how Villa is "making us all dream"...

May I add, by the way, that Villa hails from the same province I do, Asturias...

You're still alive CABRONAZO ! :D

Yeah, I read Marca in a daily basis ( more than once a day to be true ) and they are already singing so early. That's basically why when "la roja" fails, people get frustrated because they're always making VERY HIGH expectations on their squad.

I said a few days in a thread here that Spain is playing a splendid football. It now leaves them to prove if they can keep climbing the ladder higher than previous tournaments, since every spaniard ( well, the most criticizing ones ) don't believe them to get passed quarter finals.

[Atro]

Half time Greece - Sweden.

Well... ugh... that was the worst first half of Euro 2k8 so far.

The champion does not play champion-like at all, the Swedes really have a good chance to beat them tonight.

Reahgel and that greek team really stink.
It's so boring to watch a match where the defenders ( 3 of them !!!! ) spend one ENTIRE MINUTE passing the ball themselves without any will of attacking.

I really believe they will struggle sooner or later. Their 2004 miracle won't happen twice...

[Atro]

2-0 so far :buttrock:

[Takumaji]

Well-deserved 2:0 for Sweden there, the Greece game was a disgrace, a real shame for the current euro champions. If they keep on playing like that they'll be out after the first round.

Atro,

yeah, they kicked the ball around like kids in the school yard because they couldn't break through after mid-field, it was almost embarrassing to watch.

[Xander Crews]

The Spain Russia game was incredible. Yeah, Russia got spanked by the furia roja, but they played pretty well in the first half. Zhirkov was really fucking good.

Villa did wonders. Sad to think how much more money Valencia will get offered for him. No fan of los che wants to see him gone.

The Sweden Greece game was ok. Actually pretty boring if it wasn't for two super lucky goals. Did Greece get outplayed? No. Did Greece play terribly? No. Greece had a solid defense but Zlatan found the one hole. The second goal by Hansson was a joke. Hansson probably didn't know he scored until 5 seconds after. It was a mess. Sweden are going to get chewed up by Spain if they play like that again.

[Takumaji]

C'mon man, playing a la France is not good football, and Sweden isn't a top favorite, unlike Greece.

[jeff bogard]

i missed the french game, but ill watch it tomorrow or over the weekend. im kinda surprised. henry has been underwhelming on FCB.

But lets face it, who France really needed was Giuly. easily the best french player, not even called.

i saw the 1st half of russia vs spain. let's if this is finally spain's year

[Atro]

But lets face it, who France really needed was Giuly. easily the best french player

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH

You've got to be kidding me ! :lolz:

If he is the best french player, what would be Thuram? Benzema ? Ribéry ? Abidal ? Henry...

Giuly glory days are over at "l'équipe nacionalle". And it's pretty much likely that he's never going to set foot on it again.

[Xander Crews]

C'mon man, playing a la France is not good football, and Sweden isn't a top favorite, unlike Greece.


How can Greece be a favorite? When was the last time a team won back to back Euros? Never? Sweden did not play that good today. Up until Zlatan's cracker, the commentary would agree that the Greece defense would close up any openings within a split second, and it really seemed to be the case. What Ibra did wasn't normal. His shot came out of nowhere, and to get that kind of power on a kick like that was, really, insane. I'm sure that the Greeks are going to watch this one over and over and think "horse crap. horse crap. horse crap." That game could have easily been a draw.

As for Giuly, his glory days are over. He's ok for Roma, but not for France. France's best player is Benzema. Benzema scored on Manchester, Barcalona, Rangers, and plenty other teams that are better than most national teams in this cup. I just wish he'd have shown it in the last game. Fuckin Gomis.

[Atro]

I just wish he'd have shown it in the last game. Fuckin Gomis.

I guess you'd prefer to say "fuckin' Domenech"

:cool:

[Xander Crews]

I guess you'd prefer to say "fuckin' Domenech"

:cool:

I guess Domenech is to blame. That guy is a vagina. When the lots were drawn and France found themselves in the group of death, he made the biggest stink about it.

[jeff bogard]

i haven't seen him in roma, in inter and FCB i saw him in pretty good shape.

i didn't watch the french game. i have no idea about the rest of the player, but i will disagree with henry. ill watch the game later, and give you my two cents on the rest of the french team.

but from what i heard thuram and ribery have been saving the french. along with abidal.

i dont' think giuly played with the national team for a couple of years due to some differences with the coach, so i guess we'll never know how he would have performed with them.

[Takumaji]

Charlie,

Greece has a favorite status because they are the current Euro champs, as simple as that. Their game yesterday was indecisive, overly strategic, timid and counter-based and that's a style that may be cool for the old men of France but Greece can do much better. I'm pretty sure that Rehakles wasn't happy with what he saw. Yeah, the goals against were no lucky goals, more like a logical consequence of their timid game and lacking defense.

As for France - IMO Domenech is a major part of the problem, he's doing Le Bleus no favor with his strategic setups. There was no prob with this when Zidane was still around because he always did his own thing and thus had a positive influence on the rest of the team... maybe his absence is the reason why France looked like a flock of scared sheep against Romania.

What they need is a two-player striker team, and Ribery should be part of it, not rot in mid-field.

.

Day 5

Czech Republic - Portugal

Switzerland - Turkey

Hey, something tells me this will be an exciting fifth day of Euro 2k8. The first match seems doable for Portugal but well... I know the Czechs (lots of them played or play in my home town team 1. FC Nürnberg), they improve with pressure and can do things in high-profile games they can't in lesser ones.

Switzerland - Turkey will be interesting because they still have some things to settle... Turkish football fans are very proud and emotional people, the city of Nuremberg will be full of cars with Turkish flags and thousands of fans shouting like crazy if they win.

[Xander Crews]

France did have 2 strikers. Benzema and Anelka. And Anelka blew all the big chances. It can be said thzat Benzema also missed his shots, but he was far from the problem.

What works best with Benzema is a 4-3-3. Ribery on the right wing, put Nasri or Govou on the left wing. This is the kind of set up that saw Benzema scoring throughout the Champions league this year, and in Ligue 1 (Ben Arfa on the left wing, Govou on the right, Juninho and Kallstrom as central midfielders, Toulalain as defensive mid).

A lot of people say that Henry should be playing. I think it would be great if he does, but Henry was injured, and also just came off his worse season in years (every Barca player just had their shit season, as they finished 3rd place after spilling the cash to finish 1st in both La Liga and Champions League). So even though Henry is a great player, I don't know if he has the hunger to make the sniffs right now.

[Hidden Character]

Well-deserved 2:0 for Sweden there, the Greece game was a disgrace, a real shame for the current euro champions. If they keep on playing like that they'll be out after the first round.

Atro,

yeah, they kicked the ball around like kids in the school yard because they couldn't break through after mid-field, it was almost embarrassing to watch.

I found myself cussing at the TV when they became so undecided and stagnant in their passing. Greece actually made me angry watching them and their fans deserve better than back-and-forth passing between defenders on their half of the pitch.

[Xander Crews]

Portugal are playing really dirty football right now. It's funny to watch them play against the Czech team. Win or lose, I don't think they're playing clean football.

[Takumaji]

Czech Rep. - Portugal 1:1 so far (2nd half has just started).

I don't like Ronaldo at all but have to admit he has real monster skills, that goal and its preparation was awesome.

[Xander Crews]

Czech Rep. - Portugal 1:1 so far (2nd half has just started).

I don't like Ronaldo at all but have to admit he has real monster skills, that goal and its preparation was awesome.

he hasn't scored today has he? The first goal was Deco off him attacking a fallen Petr Cech for the ball.

It's definitely strange not seeing Pavel and Rosicky on the pitch.

[ratson]

I have a new rank yeeesss.This is holland saying:France,you are next.
My brother went to the match against italy and offered the italian in front of him a tissue after 2-0,the guy said it ain't over.Then came the third goal and my bro said you want the whole box.:)
(heeeeyyyy where the hell is my soccer brawl rank i loved that one GIVE IT BACK PLEASE.:crying:)

[Takumaji]

No, Ronaldo didn't score but prepared the goal in a really awesome way. I've seen a few slow-mos and it looked like a bullet-time scene from The Matrix... the guy knows his shit, that's for sure.

The Czechs don't make it easy for Portugal so far, despite the 1:2 against them. Let's see how this turns out.

[Xander Crews]

No, Ronaldo didn't score but prepared the goal in a really awesome way. I've seen a few slow-mos and it looked like a bullet-time scene from The Matrix... the guy knows his shit, that's for sure.

The Czechs don't make it easy for Portugal so far, despite the 1:2 against them. Let's see how this turns out.

It's kind of sad, even though I predicted Portugal and Turkey to move forward, and this makes it all the more likely. Czech are a brutal team, and more fun to watch.

[Xander Crews]

son of a bitch 3-1 portugal over CR

[ratson]

We'll send them home if we meet them.We owe them one from the 2006 worldchampionship.
(revenge shall be ours even if we have to wait 30 years:buttrock:)

[Atro]

We'll send them home if we meet them.We owe them one from the 2006 worldchampionship.
(revenge shall be ours even if we have to wait 30 years:buttrock:)

Having 3 points doesn't mean you're in the quarter finals let alone in the final ( where supposely it's the only match they can encounter ).
France and Romania are still on the road.

I'll root for the dutch against France tho ^^

[ratson]

Having 3 points doesn't mean you're in the quarter finals let alone in the final ( where supposely it's the only match they can encounter ).
France and Romania are still on the road.

I'll root for the dutch against France tho ^^

I know but i like to dream away a little.

[Takumaji]

The Czechs lost but lost fighting like mad, good match there. Portugal is on the run now so it will be difficult for any team to stop them.

The Switzerland - Turkey match is nice too, 1st half is over now and it's 1:0 for Switzerland. The heavy rain probably helped here but well, a goal is a goal is a goal, eh... no offense to Turkey supporters but I want Switzerland to win this one, would be good for the Euro as a whole, just like an Austrian victory tomorrow (and a German one of course! :) ).

Yeah, the Czechs play a tough game, that's how they always go at it and I love them for that, it's not unfair but most certainly hard.

[Takumaji]

It's over, Switzerland lost 1:2. Which means they've just eliminated themselves from Euro 2k8.

I really feel for them.

[Xander Crews]

It's over, Switzerland lost 1:2. Which means they've just eliminated themselves from Euro 2k8.

I really feel for them.

lol. fuckin Benaglio. He was my fantasy goalkeeper.... Fuck him. And fuck Frei for being injured. Dickhead.

[Takumaji]

There was nothing he could do against the second goal, one of his own team mates gave the ball a different spin and that was that.

Now Frei will have another reason to cry his heart out.

There's a dark shadow hanging over the Swiss team, someone or something does not want them to win.

[Atro]

And now, according to UEFA, the match between Turkey and C.Rep. , if drawn and have the same fairplay ( aka bookings ) numbers, they have to tie break with PK's after the 90 minutes since Switzerland cannot make it anymore.
Obviously, in case of a draw.

I guess the germans are more likely to want Turkey than the czhecs ( I'm assuming they will end in 1st place in Group B ).

http://www.uefa.com/newsfiles/19079.pdf

[kobylka68]

And now, according to UEFA, the match between Turkey and C.Rep. , if drawn and have the same fairplay ( aka bookings ) numbers, they have to tie break with PK's after the 90 minutes since Switzerland cannot make it anymore.
Obviously, in case of a draw.

I guess the germans are more likely to want Turkey than the czhecs ( I'm assuming they will end in 1st place in Group B ).

http://www.uefa.com/newsfiles/19079.pdf

If that were to happen it would be a first I believe. Would there at least be some extra time or would it just go straight to PKs?

[Atro]

If that were to happen it would be a first I believe. Would there at least be some extra time or would it just go straight to PKs?

I think it's automatically PK's.

I'd love to see that happen since it would be a first yes.

Why do I love to see PK's everytime it's not with my teams ? ^^

[Xander Crews]

There was nothing he could do against the second goal, one of his own team mates gave the ball a different spin and that was that.

Now Frei will have another reason to cry his heart out.

There's a dark shadow hanging over the Swiss team, someone or something does not want them to win.

The goal by Arda Turan was pure class. I highly recommend watching it again. It was as beautiful as a Juninho kick.

[Takumaji]

Day 6 -

Croatia - Germany

Austria - Poland

Well... Croatia seems beatable, we already had a test match against Serbia who play a similar style...

Austria - Poland is an important game for both teams, more so for the Austrians, they'll be finished if they lose.

[Xander Crews]

Day 6 -

Croatia - Germany

Austria - Poland

Well... Croatia seems beatable, we already had a test match against Serbia who play a similar style...

Austria - Poland is an important game for both teams, more so for the Austrians, they'll be finished if they lose.

Germany Croatia should be a fun game. Modric and Krancjar are awesome on the wings. I don't expect the Croatians to win, but I do expect them to play good football.

[Takumaji]

Definitely, the Croatian team has good players and they won't just hand over the game to us... thing is, our lads are a tad bit nervous, moreso than before the first match.

Ah, the hymns are on now, excuse me until half time.

EDIT:

Half-time, Croatia - Germany 1:0 so far.

Gah, just like I thought, they're nervous like a guy on his first date.

Well played by Croatia, they're really on a roll today. Only two or three chances on the German side... damn Modric, he's quick and precise as hell.

Hobb edz' Deutschland!!

[Atro]

things are getting nasty for the germans.

2-0 as of now.

depending on the next Austria - Poland match, all can only be decided on the last round of this group.

EDIT: Podolski scores and makes it 2-1.
The final score is now open again :)

[Takumaji]

It's over, 2:1 for Croatia, and well-deserved I might add. Weak game by our team, I would be even more worried if it wasn't for Poldi's hammer goal.

[kobylka68]

Very weak stuff from the German squad. I always thought Lehman was a terrible choice and this outing gave me even less confidence in him. Ballack, Klose, Lahm were virtually invisible. Podolski again is one of the few bright spots for the German squad. If Poland can win later today, which they should, this group will be wide open.

[Takumaji]

There's no good substitute for Lehmann in sight, that's the problem.

Well... Austria will throw in anything they have up their sleeves tonight so we'll have an interesting match there.

[kobylka68]

There's no good substitute for Lehmann in sight, that's the problem.

Well... Austria will throw in anything they have up their sleeves tonight so we'll have an interesting match there.

Sure there is, the problem is Joachim Löw doesn't want to take a chance with a young guy. Robert Enke, Rene Adler, Michael Rensing. All could stand in goal for Germany and I'd have a lot more confidence in them. Lehmann was a bench warmer all year in Arsenal. I foresee Lehmann failing in goal at Schalke next season as well.

[kobylka68]

Looks like Poland's tournament is done with a 1-1 draw to Austria. That was such a stupid penalty to take with merely seconds left in the game.

[Takumaji]

Löw bets on Lehmann's experience, that all there is to it. Neither Enke, nor the others have that. There were bigger problems today than Lehmann, defense fell back to their old mistakes (gaping holes, slow reaction) and most others were too timid to try anything beyond set-piece footy.

Well... thanks to the successful penalty kick, a draw would suffice for us come Monday against Austria. Not that I'd want our lads to play safe, shouldn't be necessary anyway.

[Atro]

the austrians have just shot themselves.

they could have easily be winning by 3-0 in the end of the 1st half.

They had CLEAR goal occasions.
I don't wanna say it was because of the GK , they just roundly missed them.

At least they can tell the swiss they score 1pt in the 1st round :D

[Hidden Character]

I'm fired up for today's match between The Netherlands and France. Vive Les Bleus!

[Takumaji]

Day 7 -

Italy - Romania

Netherlands - France

According to various Italian sport magazines, the team is very nervous, almost scared. I don't think that is justified in this case but it's understandable - they simply have to win this one.

If the Dutch play against France like in their first match, the blues will be blown off the field. Domenech reacted to the problems and put Ribery on a more offensive position (good decision IMO), I hope this makes the French game a bit more interesting.

[racecar]

is there a web site where i can watch the game's on .. iam stuck @ work:annoyed:

netherland and italy

[Atro]

1-1 at final whistle.

The italians can thank Buffon for saving a PK.

This group is cool, nobody's out yet. the decisions will take place in the last round ! :cool:

[kobylka68]

Italy was robbed of the victory. It's that simple. Luca Toni's goal was good. That penalty shot should not have been a penalty shot. I usually enjoy watching Italy lose or do poorly but not like this where a referee again makes terrible calls.

[kobylka68]

is there a web site where i can watch the game's on .. iam stuck @ work:annoyed:

netherland and italy

I'm at work as well and I downloaded tvuplayer from tvunetworks to watch the games. It has an espn2 channel where all the games are happening.

[Takumaji]

Netherlands - France is AMAZING.

I feel almost sorry for Les Bleus... almost.

EDIT:

Holland beats France 4:1 !!

If that wasn't sexy football I don't know what is, eh.

Top match, best of Euro 2k8 so far, Holland is a clear favorite now. Man, 7 goals in two matches... awesome.

[racecar]

awsome game netherlands ball movement is so smooth and player management are awsome as well:360:

[kobylka68]

Wow what a game that was. It will be interesting to see what kind of team the Netherlands will field against Romania. If Romania were to beat the Netherlands and move onto the next round that would shock everyone.

[Atro]

Wow what a game that was. It will be interesting to see what kind of team the Netherlands will field against Romania. If Romania were to beat the Netherlands and move onto the next round that would shock everyone.

It would shock who ???

Come on, don't be a jackass by saying that. The romanians know also how to play football.

Holland plays a beauty football and it was a nice match, but let's face it like it should - Altough I don't like the french team, they were very unlucky tonight.
Holland was very lethal and that's what's football's all about. But France clearly lacked of luck.
I bet that if Robben wouldn't have scored that 3rd goal right away, France would tie that match sooner or later.
That 3rd goal was the key. France moral went downhill and now they know it's almost an impossible mission to go much further in the competition.

Anyway, I'm damn happy for the dutch that they passed and in #1.

Watch out all that Holland Euphoria... any of the Group D teams can play eyes on the eyes against them.

[ratson]

Arrivedeci and au revoir.
My brother and i never agree on anything but we both said the score would be 4-1.TOTALLY FUCKING AMAZING(and indeed romania is a tough team,but hey BRING IT ON!:buttrock:)
Heee wasabi you where saying something about kuyt?(i do agree on RvN)

[Atro]

that victory might also as well be very bad for Italy and France by the point of view that Van Basten is very possibly going to manage the whole team by putting a totally different starting eleven on the pitch, making tonight players rest and thus, playing without any problem of losing with Romania.

[ratson]

that victory might also as well be very bad for Italy and France by the point of view that Van Basten is very possibly going to manage the whole team by putting a totally different starting eleven on the pitch, making tonight players rest and thus, playing without any problem of losing with Romania.

i think so to why waste good players when you don't have to.

[Xander Crews]

Arrivedeci and au revoir.
My brother and i never agree on anything but we both said the score would be 4-1.TOTALLY FUCKING AMAZING(and indeed romania is a tough team,but hey BRING IT ON!:buttrock:)
Heee wasabi you where saying something about kuyt?(i do agree on RvN)

Kuijt will never be a great player. Milan Baros scored 5 last cup and where is he now? On a bench by his club team.

As for the goal by Robben, it was a thing of beauty. I really did not expect that out of him. It was everything that Henry wished his chip shot could have been and more.

[Superfamifreak]

As for the goal by Robben, it was a thing of beauty.

I personally think Wesley Sneijder's goal was the best of the lot. That guy knows how to strike a ball for sure.

[Xander Crews]

I personally think Wesley Sneijder's goal was the best of the lot. That guy knows how to strike a ball for sure.

That goal was based on France's complete shift to offense. That goal could only happen when the opposition is down 2 with a few minutes left.

Sneijder - the discreet rapist.

Van Persie could learn a lot from him...

[ratson]

The goal by robben was the shit.Actually all 4 were great:buttrock:

[Takumaji]

Day 8 -

Sweden - Spain

Greece - Russia

Will be interesting to see how Sweden handles the Spaniards. Guess Spain will win this one.

Now the Greek want to show they can actually play football too... difficult to predict, the current Russian team is not that easy to beat if they keep things compact in defense. They most probably will play counter-style.

[kitkit.com]

Will be interesting to see how Sweden handles the Spaniards. Guess Spain will win this one.
.

Spain scored in the stoppage time! Sweden defended very well for the entire match, but one mistake is costly.

[racecar]

i think russia will win

[Takumaji]

Spain scored in the stoppage time! Sweden defended very well for the entire match, but one mistake is costly.

Yep, good match. The late goal was demoralizing for Sweden but it also was well deserved, mistakes like that simply must not happen on that level.

Spain is in the quarter finals now, more or less.

.

The match Greece - Russia is on. Russia plays way more offensive than I thought, Greece looks better than last time so far. Wouldn't be too surprised if Russia wins this one but let's wait and see.

[racecar]

nice feed for the first goal in the rus/gre game

[Xander Crews]

if Russia beats Sweden and moves into the quarters next week, at least some of my predictions will be true.

Right now, my predictions were shit on by the Netherlands. Everything else seemed on spot. Turkey could go instead of CR in group A, Germany and Croatia were obvious in group B, Spain and either Sweden or Russia in group D. Fuckin Netheralands though. I gotta stop talking shit abotu Van Basten. The guy is a genius.

[Atro]

Greeks are gowing home sooner.

Russia still has a chance to step on to the next stage.

[kitkit.com]

Greeks are gowing home sooner.

Russia still has a chance to step on to the next stage.

Great game! Many scoring chances for both sides but lack finishing touch.

[Takumaji]

Day 9 -

Switzerland - Portugal

Turkey - Czech Republic

Both matches will start at the same time.

Well, seems like a simple affair for Portugal, Switzerland will experience another Waterloo tonight.

The Czechs are my favorite of the second match, I really want them to win this one. I don't get what's wrong with them, they have so many good players but something doesn't work right.

Yesterday was a sad day for Greece, they're out of Euro 2k8, Wednesday will be their last match day (Spain) and also the last day of the first round. Ah well, that's football, you enter Euro as the current champion and then you're one of the first to go. I think it's safe to say that the Greek won last Euro with lots and lots of luck, not so much technical superiority.

Will be interesting to see how the Greek media will treat Otto Rehagel. IMO it wasn't his fault but I guess that's not the way the general public thinks about it. I mean, it's the same over here, first it was Löw here and Löw there, press was full of praise for him and the team, now after the defeat against Croatia, they come up with the same-ol' bashing again. I really don't get that crap. Beckenbauer can stuff his lame bitching right up his ass.

[ratson]

The final will be Portugal 1-3 Netherlands.
First goal for Portugal and then it's time to get even for 2006.:buttrock:
(and that's no wishfull thinking, that's how it's gonna be.sorry to spoil your fun)

[Atro]

Day 9 -

Switzerland - Portugal

Turkey - Czech Republic

Both matches will start at the same time.

Well, seems like a simple affair for Portugal, Switzerland will experience another Waterloo tonight.

The Czechs are my favorite of the second match, I really want them to win this one. I don't get what's wrong with them, they have so many good players but something doesn't work right.


The Switzerland - Portugal match won't be exciting to watch.
The swiss are already gone ( well, they're already at home ! ^^ ) and Portugal is already in the quarters. They will start with 5-6 subs bench players.

It's all about the Czechs vs Turkey. I'm crossing fingers for a draw :D I always enjoy penalty shootouts when my team's not involved ! ^^

[Takumaji]

I can't stomach pk's, even if my own team isn't involved... the German pk's last World Cup were HORRIBLE for me to watch, that shit so pure luck and guesswork. The old golden goal rule was crap as well but still I'd prefer it over pk's any day of the week.

Maybe the fact that I mostly played as goalie during my childhood and youth adds to my pk problem.

[Xander Crews]

PKs are bullshit, I agree, but for some reason a lot of people want to see games end in PKs. I think that the reason for this is partly because this isn't a regular occurrence outside of a tournament's knockout rounds, and the other reason is because people don't care about the teams involved. I never like to see games end in PKs, and especially finals. The 94 world cup is still a bad memory. Watching Baggio miss scarred me for life.

[ratson]

Penalty kicks suck balls.It's our known weakness:(.

signed The Orange Legion

[kitkit.com]

I can't stomach pk's, even if my own team isn't involved... the German pk's last World Cup were HORRIBLE for me to watch, that shit so pure luck and guesswork. The old golden goal rule was crap as well but still I'd prefer it over pk's any day of the week.


Turkey vs Czech Republic should be a good game to watch.

I hate PK to decide a game winner. Everything should be settled in regulation or extra time.

Speaking of Germany's PK, do you notice that Germany never miss any PK (every single player scored) in World Cup since 74, Tak? Check the history and you will find Germany always win in PK shootout in WC.

[Atro]

what an incredible comeback from turkey !!!

2 min left and they are now wining 3-2 !!!
no more PK contest !! :p

[ratson]

Lot of turkish people live in the netherlands my brothers hood is like little istanbul right now they are going crazy:)

[Takumaji]

Turkey vs Czech Republic should be a good game to watch.

Man, that was a real battle, the Czechs missed an almost sure-fire victory. This is what happens if you feel too safe and just play defensive to keep the current score.

Great, now the Turks in my hometown will party and shout at the top of their lungs throughout the night... gah.

Too bad... the Czechs are out now, as is Switzerland. The 2:0 against Portugal was nice but well, that was the Portoguese B or C team, even though the Swiss looked good during the last 20 mins. Deserved or not, it was a good way to end Euro 2k8 for them and coach Kuhn.


Speaking of Germany's PK, do you notice that Germany never miss any PK (every single player scored) in World Cup since 74, Tak? Check the history and you will find Germany always win in PK shootout in WC.

Yeah, I know the statistics but that doesn't change the fact that I'm always nervous as hell. My father had the same problem, he even left the room during PKs. Losing by PKs is the worst possible way to end a match, I mean, just think about how the players feel like, they trained hard for that special day for months if not years and then a random shot or a wrong 50:50 decision of the goalie throws them out of a cup in less than a second. BULLSHIT.

Of course there's no way around PKs... I mean, you can't play extended time forever and the golden goal rule is crap so PKs are a dirty but effective way to end a game once and for all.

[cannonball]

The Turks really started out playing it safe. I though they were lost right from the start. Once they got some confidence, and a little urgency due to 2 goals, they really showed that they belong in the next round. What a great game.

[kitkit.com]

Man, that was a real battle, the Czechs missed an almost sure-fire victory. This is what happens if you feel too safe and just play defensive to keep the current score.

The Czechs were stunned with 2 late goals by the Turks. We have to give lots of credit to Turkey.




Losing by PKs is the worst possible way to end a match, I mean, just think about how the players feel like, they trained hard for that special day for months if not years and then a random shot or a wrong 50:50 decision of the goalie throws them out of a cup in less than a second. BULLSHIT.


Losing in PK is very heartbreaking. One of the most memorable match was Argentina vs Yugoslavia in the Quarter-Final of WC 1990. Yugoslavia was down by 9 men and they fought for the whole game. During PK, they were leading 2-0, but they failed to score further in PK and lost to Argentina.

I remember Argentina got to the Final by winning a few PK shootouts that year with a back-up goalie No 12.

[ratson]

I hope we lose against Romania cause i don't want us to meet Italy or France again in the semi-finals(if we get there that is).
You can count on it that they want revenge.

[Hidden Character]

Why did Czech Republic get the works? It's no one's business but the Turks. Fan-fucking-tastic game yesterday.

[Takumaji]

So...

Day 10 -

Austria - Germany

Poland - Croatia

Our team ought to win this one. If they don't they better stay in Austria because some people will be -very- pissed off... That "another Cordoba!!" crap totally is totally silly though... well, if it helps the Austrians to feel better, more power to them.

Of course our TV stations will show the first match but Poland - Croatia would be worth a look as well, will be interesting to see how this East Europe derby turns out.

[Xander Crews]

I hope we lose against Romania cause i don't want us to meet Italy or France again in the semi-finals(if we get there that is).
You can count on it that they want revenge.

Actually, the team you don't want to meet again is Romania. Italy and France are looking washed up. Romania is playing like they deserve to be in this tournament. If Oranje throw tomorrow's game only to face a legitimate threat in the semifinals, that would be ironic poetry.

But in reality, doesn't matter if Oranje win or lose tomorrow. They will face Spain in the semis. It will be a good game. However, I fear the best game of the whole cup was CR vs. Turkey. Arda Turan is really going places. He's going to be bigger than Basturk.

[ratson]

Actually, the team you don't want to meet again is Romania. Italy and France are looking washed up. Romania is playing like they deserve to be in this tournament. If Oranje throw tomorrow's game only to face a legitimate threat in the semifinals, that would be ironic poetry.

But in reality, doesn't matter if Oranje win or lose tomorrow. They will face Spain in the semis. It will be a good game. However, I fear the best game of the whole cup was CR vs. Turkey. Arda Turan is really going places. He's going to be bigger than Basturk.

Talked to my bro and he agrees with you he knows a lot more about football then i do so i guess you're right,Romania is good and the dutch won't lose on purpose.I think we should be able to handle Spain though.

[ratson]

So...

Day 10 -

Austria - Germany

Poland - Croatia

Our team ought to win this one. If they don't they better stay in Austria because some people will be -very- pissed off... That "another Cordoba!!" crap totally is totally silly though... well, if it helps the Austrians to feel better, more power to them.

Of course our TV stations will show the first match but Poland - Croatia would be worth a look as well, will be interesting to see how this East Europe derby turns out.

JETZT GEHTS LOS!Ich habe ein shirt von die mannschaft bekommen bei einem deutsche collegen.(forgive my German)

[Takumaji]

JETZT GEHT LOSS!Ich habe ein shirt von die mannschaft bekommen bei einem deutsche collegen.(forgive my German)

:buttrock:

Jau, jetzt gehts los!

Hoffe ich wenigstens... :)

[racecar]

Croatia

[Doctor Shroom]

We won, 1:0 versus Austria (as expected)

Also: Why is this board purple?:spock:

[Grandmaster-C]

And what a awesome performance by the german team :lol:

It was luck that we had such a weak enemy in austria...

We strongly need to show a rise in the next match.

[Takumaji]

Damn man, the Austrians closed doors during much of first and second half and no real pressing chances, and when they had to open up after Ballack's awesome goal they literally fell apart. Tough game.

Next one will be Portugal, this could be our last match if we play as indecisive as we did today.

[Atro]

Next one will be Portugal, this could be our last match if we play as indecisive as we did today.

Relax. ;)

Great players turns on on great matches.
The 1st Semi-finalist will be totally unknown.

Portugal is fierce on the wings, but they struggle against air game.
Germany can explore a decisive roll on that weak point.

[kobylka68]

Germany showed a lot of promise against Poland but since then have been very unspectacular. Hopefully they can put together a good showing vs Portugal.

In the other game it's a shame to see Poland fall but they not once played like they deserved to be in this tournament which is the exact opposite of what their qualifying campaign was like. At least they don't have to qualify for 2012 so we'll see them again.

[Takumaji]

Day 11, one day to go until the semis -

Today's matches:

Holland - Romania

France - Italy

Let's see how the Romanians handle this one. Holland already is on a high anyway so they'll probably play another great match but well, as I said a few pages back, don't underestimate Romania...!

France - Italy is always special, current world champion against the vice-champ, many of the players know eachother, will be a "family meeting" of sorts. I'll root for Italy in this case.

EDIT:

Atro,

I agree with you to some extend, the Austrians played bunker football and that's something Portugal won't do, they will play more open and offensive and thus the German game might be a little more open and combination-oriented as well. This simply was not possible agains Austria, sometimes the entire team built a wall of defense around their goal area and only lured for counter chances. The fact that they played very rough and literally to-the-bone didn't help either. That was rather uncool if you ask me.

[recon_zero]

Do you think Holland may give the french and the italians the shaft? sportsmanship aside, if one of those teams pass this round, they may be champions just by the name alone. Taking out a potential rival and letting Romania do their thing. Romania may play good and all but it will be very hard for them to win the Euro

[kobylka68]

Do you think Holland may give the french and the italians the shaft? sportsmanship aside, if one of those teams pass this round, they may be champions just by the name alone. Taking out a potential rival and letting Romania do their thing. Romania may play good and all but it will be very hard for them to win the Euro

I don't know about giving them the shaft but if I was van Basten I would play the bench today. Why risk getting players injured or suspended from second yellows or red cards. I know that if Romania were to beat the Dutch today then the French and Italians would blame van Basten and the Dutch squad but they have no one to blame but themselves. Netherlands doesn't owe anyone any kind of result.

[kaos]

L'Squish

[Bucciarello]

2-0 :)



Where is DARK ANDY?

[Xander Crews]

2-0 :)



Where is DARK ANDY?

Italy finally woke up.

[Bucciarello]

Italy finally woke up.
thx, anyway a bit of luck :mr_t:

[Atro]

It's always pleasant to see Domenech screwed up :mr_t:

It's patently CLEAR that his team is still very Zidane orphan.
End of a cycle ( which lasted more than too long if you ask me )

[Vernon]

It's always pleasant to see Domenech screwed up :mr_t:

Total agree.

Fuck yeah, finally a very good match of Italy, btw if Toni was not too bad we could win around 8-0 :rolleyes:

[Stephane]

:crying:

[Vernon]

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3892/domenechownedxe1.jpg

[Atro]

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3892/domenechownedxe1.jpg

http://img.lequipe.fr/Xml/Media/170608_henry4.jpg

:lolz:

Look at Panucci's face !!!

Taken from a french newspaper " l'equipe "

[Xander Crews]

It's always pleasant to see Domenech screwed up :mr_t:

It's patently CLEAR that his team is still very Zidane orphan.
End of a cycle ( which lasted more than too long if you ask me )

You're right. On the same token, Italy is Totti orphaned. People say he's not really important in tournaments, etc, but if you watch him play, and see the level of defense he draws, you understand how Italy was so good on the counter attack. Anyhow, I'm glad De Rossi got to put points up. Shitty goals don't exist, not after the tournament. Now they should put in Aquilani, and play De Rossi where Pirlo was. Put in Perrota opposite Aquilani. Then you'll have a good midfield.

[Takumaji]

Day 12 - last day of the 1st round -

Greece - Spain

Russia - Sweden

Greece is out already so Spain probably will come up with a B team like Portugal and Holland, I guess this won't be a very exciting match but let's wait and see.

Russia - Sweden will determine Holland's opponent in the quarter finals. Here's a full list of all qf matches:

06/19/08

Portugal - Germany

06/20/08

Croatia - Turkey

06/21/08

Holland - Russia/Sweden

06/22/08

Spain - Italy

The Spain - Italy match is a classic already, will be very interesting to watch. As for our match against Portugal, well, we defeated them 3:1 in the third-place match of WC 2006 so perhaps we can do it again, would be all sorts of awesome but it's going to be tough as hell. Portugal will come up with anything and anyone they've got, we'll see the A+ team tommorrow. I hope Poldi is fit for the match, wouldn't be cool not to have him around when the Portoguese attacks come in. Klose isn't too hot at the mo it seems and Löw does not want to resort to Kuranyi for some reason. Perhaps it would be a good idea to send him in against Portugal.

[Shito]

Heh, thanks God we made it. After being robbed a totally legit goal by the referee in the previous match, we surely deserved to qualify for the final stage of the tournament. We did with a very well deserved 2-0, and that's for the better. We played a very solid soccer, totally dominated the first half. Penalty Kick call (and red card) was 100% correct also. Nice match overall. Too bad for many goal shots missed by Toni, hope he'll have a better aiming eye (and a bit more luck) in the upcoming matches! ;)

A couple of key players will miss the upcoming match with Spain due to double yellow card though. No Pirlo, no Gattuso. Not easy.

I really hope we'll win, to re-match again Holland in the semifinals. Buffon is all bitter & furious for those 3 goals he suffered againt Holland in the previous match... :)

[Takumaji]

Sorry but what is "soccer"? ;)

Ah well, I liked how Italy played last night, that was world champion-worthy.

A re-match Holland - Italy would be nice indeed but something tells me the Dutch are more or less unstoppable now.

[Shito]

Sorry but what is "soccer"? ;)

Ah well, I liked how Italy played last night, that was world champion-worthy.

A re-match Holland - Italy would be nice indeed but something tells me the Dutch are more or less unstoppable now.

Oh well, as long as a match is not plagued with horrible wrong calls from the referee, I'm just for any worthy team to win! :)

PS:
In Italy the term 'football' is mostly used to refer to *american* football.
Plus, my Intellivision soccer game was just named 'soccer', and so... ;)

[ratson]

Sorry but what is "soccer"? ;)

Ah well, I liked how Italy played last night, that was world champion-worthy.

A re-match Holland - Italy would be nice indeed but something tells me the Dutch are more or less unstoppable now.

soccer=football
And 3 down 3 to go:)
And about Italy COME BACK FOR A SECOND LESSON IN FOOTBALL.

[Shito]

And about Italy COME BACK FOR A SECOND LESSON IN FOOTBALL.

Oh well, Holland team is awesome now, and that's a fact.
Plus I always though VanBasten is a great guy, I like him since his 'Magical Milan' days, and keep in mind I don't even like Milan, so go figure. ;)

A re-match would be nice though. Not sure we could win, but hey, you know Italy soccer team always starts tournaments on a low profile and keep growing as the things get hotter, right? ;)

[ratson]

Oh well, Holland team is awesome now, and that's a fact.
Plus I always though VanBasten is a great guy, I like him since his 'Magical Milan' days, and keep in mind I don't even like Milan, so go figure. ;)

A re-match would be nice though. Not sure we could win, but hey, you know Italy soccer team always starts tournaments on a low profile and keep growing as the things get hotter, right? ;)

To be honest i hope we don't meet Italy again.Second time will not be so easy.(i almost shit my pants thinking about it)

[Xander Crews]

A couple of key players will miss the upcoming match with Spain due to double yellow card though. No Pirlo, no Gattuso. Not easy.


Rino has been ineffectual, not just no, but all season too. I'm very surprised that Milan is so loyal to him. I would have transferred him to Bayern Munich when tehy asked for him a few weeks ago.

Pirlo is going to be missed, but frankly, it means De Rossi is going to start without question, which is a good thing. Pirlo tends to be a perfectionist, which hurts the dynamic of his game. He can be very invisible for a while.

Italy should also play Cassano. Yes, he's hard to control, but that goes true for both sides of the pitch. Cassano could really mess things up for Spain. The only problem is getting over the fact that he's a massive cunt.

[Takumaji]

I've just read in Yahoo news that Thuram and Makelele will quit the French national team after Euro 2k8. I guess Les Bleus will undergo a few serious changes during this and next year before the WC 2010 qualifying rounds start.

As for Italy, they either grow or go, same goes for Germany. Their last match was good but Portugal or Holland will be slightly more challenging than the tired and worn-out French players.

[kobylka68]

Kudos to Russia today for beating Sweden. Today they definitely showed why they deserve to be in this tournament.

[Xander Crews]

I've just read in Yahoo news that Thuram and Makelele will quit the French national team after Euro 2k8. I guess Les Bleus will undergo a few serious changes during this and next year before the WC 2010 qualifying rounds start.

As for Italy, they either grow or go, same goes for Germany. Their last match was good but Portugal or Holland will be slightly more challenging than the tired and worn-out French players.

I have a strong feeling that holland and portugal are out after the semifinals. I can very easily see Italy beating Spain if they use the right lineup. Germany I can't speak on, as they seem content on leaving this cup already. But Turkey and Croatia could easily put Cristiano Ronaldo in his best sunday dress and rape him like a little girl for 90 minutes. His team won't do shit about it.

[Neo Geo MVS]

I have a strong feeling that holland and portugal are out after the semifinals.

Are you saying Holland is out after the semifinal? What are you smoking Wasabi they have dominated the whole euro 2008 and most likely will win everything.

Total futbol has returned!!!

[Xander Crews]

Are you saying Holland is out after the semifinal? What are you smoking Wasabi they have dominated the whole euro 2008 and most likely will win everything.

Total futbol has returned!!!

lol. They got through the group stage. You probably don't remember Portugal and Czech Republic dominating their group stages back in 2004. Or how about Portugal and Holland in 2000?

These teams are not built for glory. Just a good upset.

[Neo Geo MVS]

lol. They got through the group stage. You probably don't remember Portugal and Czech Republic dominating their group stages back in 2004. Or how about Portugal and Holland in 2000?

These teams are not built for glory. Just a good upset.

True, we'll see how far Holland gets. I do think they are playing some decent futbol but to be honest I am a little disappointed in how crappy a lot of good teams are playing in this tournament.

[Xander Crews]

True, we'll see how far Holland gets. I do think they are playing some decent futbol but to be honest I am a little disappointed in how crappy a lot of good teams are playing in this tournament.

The Dutch did play the group of death and not a bunch of scrub teams like poland and austria. But we'll see. A lot really depends on the counter attack with them. They make De Jong shadow the striker, which leads the opponent to bring up the offense and stretch the resources, then the dutch score.

Or one could say that it helps to get an offsides goal (that technically wasn't, but the rule wasn't made for what happened with Italy), then yellow card the victim team until they shut up, and watch the referee battered team lose disgracefully. Peter Fröjdfeld should be shot for his terrible calls.

[Takumaji]

I have a strong feeling that holland and portugal are out after the semifinals. I can very easily see Italy beating Spain if they use the right lineup. Germany I can't speak on, as they seem content on leaving this cup already. But Turkey and Croatia could easily put Cristiano Ronaldo in his best sunday dress and rape him like a little girl for 90 minutes. His team won't do shit about it.

Let's put it this way, we have cut back our expectations quite a bit. After the "summer dream" of 2006, a wave of euphoria swept through the land which brought the team through the qualifying rounds. At first we were called favorites, now we're more or less out of this circle which at the moment consists of Portugal, Holland and maybe Russia.

The team seems to accept this new role from what I've read, IMO that's a different thing than being "content to leave the cup". Löw wanted them to reach the quarters and it worked but they're still hungry for more, even if it doesn't look like it. Portugal is a damn strong opponent for every team, be it Holland or Germany, so losing against them wouldn't be half as shameful as a defeat against Austria which would have sent Löw straight to retirement.

Ah well, so what, bring 'em on, we're ready.

Oh, and the decision to give Löw a penalty for "shouting at the fourth official" by the UEFA is the biggest bullshit I've ever heard. Now the coach of a team under pressure will have to spend the entire match on the backseat and is not allowed to speak to his lads... FUCK YOU UEFA!! :angry:

[bakaichi]

Half of the quarter finals are usualy settled on pk shootout which is lottery really (think about it in an pk shootout even San Marino have a fair chance agains Italy), so anything can (and will) happen.

[Takumaji]

Ladies and Gentlemen,

Day 13 - first day of the knock-out rounds - quarter finals.

Match of the day:

Portugal - Germany.

Many of my friends think this will be an easy victory for Portugal... personally I still have some hope left, stranger things have happened in a cup than a German triumph over the Portuguese superstars...

Ah well, beer 'n barbecue is ready for tonight, now it's all or nothing.

Wenn schon, denn schon, und wenn nicht, dann zum Teufel damit.

[Neo Geo MVS]

Many of my friends think this will be an easy victory for Portugal... personally I still have some hope left, stranger things have happened in a cup than a German triumph over the Portuguese superstars...

No offence Takumaji but your friends sound like idiots, Germany is always hard to beat and it wont be easy. I think Germany will win to be honest just dont let Gomez play that guy is worthless. Has Klose played in every match? I feel he ain't even on the field since I don't see him score like he usually does.

[Atro]

No offence Takumaji but your friends sound like idiots, Germany is always hard to beat and it wont be easy. I think Germany will win to be honest just dont let Gomez play that guy is worthless. Has Klose played in every match? I feel he ain't even on the field since I don't see him score like he usually does.

Word !

My expectations for tonight's match is 50-50.

2 different styles. only one victor

[Takumaji]

No offence Takumaji but your friends sound like idiots, Germany is always hard to beat and it wont be easy. I think Germany will win to be honest just dont let Gomez play that guy is worthless. Has Klose played in every match? I feel he ain't even on the field since I don't see him score like he usually does.

heh, we guys over here tend to see things quite negative. A bunch of kernows, if you will. :D

Well, it's over when it's over, pressure turns coal into diamonds so perhaps this will work tonight as well.

[Doctor Shroom]

I've got a bad feelings about tonights match.:annoyed:

[kobylka68]

The germans have woken up. 2-0 in the middle of the first half. Great start.

[Neo Geo MVS]

Looks like I was right :D, even though the game is still in the first half Germany is up 2-0.

[Xander Crews]

I like the stat that when Klose scores in an international game, Germany has never lost.

[Bucciarello]

Go Germany!

[Doctor Shroom]

2-3 for Germany:buttrock:

[kobylka68]

Wow Portugal really took it down to the wire there but what a great game from germany. Hopefully they can carry this momentum and quality play further.

[ratson]

Congratulations Germany.I was really hoping this would happen,i have to call a portugese friend now.I owe him for 2006:buttrock:

[Xander Crews]

Finally Crisitiano Ronaldo's luck draws to a close.

[Hidden Character]

Wasn't able to catch the game, but hats off to Germany for winning today. Does anyone know what the German fans in the crowd shout after the announcer says who scored a goal and got the assist(s)?

[Shito]

Dunno why (I actually do, it's because he seems like a retard), but I hate C. Ronald. GO GO GERMANY! :buttrock:

[Takumaji]

YAAAAAAHHHH!!!! :multi_co::drool:

I can't believe it, we just beat Portugal, the favorite with their Ronaldos and Decos 2:3 in an AWESOME match.

Guys, I kid you not, I was close to a heart attack during the last four minutes of extra time, that was the most exciting match I've seen in a long time.

Okay, now the next match will determine our semis opponent, either Turkey or Croatia. We still have a thing to settle with Croatia so it would be cool to meet them again. Then again, Germany - Turkey would be da bomb.

Hidden Character,

most of the time the announcer shouts the name of the scorer and assisting player, the fans answer with the surnames. So, in this case, we have 0:1 Bastian Schweinsteiger (assist Lukas Podolski), 0:2 Miroslav Klose (assist Schweinsteiger) and 1:3 Michael Ballack (assist Schweinsteiger).

Phew, I need a few more beers now...

Deutschlaaaaaand!!!! :D

[Atro]

I told you Portugal would crumble with aerial balls.

Unfortunatelly we do not dispose strong Shoryukens to anti-air those actions.

it made all the diference.

[Professor Denim]

i don´t get it.why so much Portugal and Ronaldo hate?do you even know what he says?is how he act?His just a kid.
very good game tonight tough Germany third goal is bullshit...and Ricardo is so bad.i need another beer too.

[Takumaji]

Ronaldo could play twice as good if he'd grow up and kept the silly show elements out of his game.

Remember when he fucked up a penalty kick just because he tried to be funny? Yeah, I know there are tons of people who like that sort of crap but I don't.

[Professor Denim]

wich penalty?the one in the final of Champions League for M.United?

[Takumaji]

Yup, ManU - Chelsea. That's what happens if you take things too lightly.

[Xander Crews]

i don´t get it.why so much Portugal and Ronaldo hate?do you even know what he says?is how he act?His just a kid.
very good game tonight tough Germany third goal is bullshit...and Ricardo is so bad.i need another beer too.

I don't really hate Ronaldo, but like you said, he's a kid. A very talented kid who has a lot to learn. He just got a good lesson today. To be honest, this is good for him. If he wins everything at such a young age he'll become decrepit like Maradona.

[RAINBOW PONY]

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The text is the same color as the background? I can't see anything written, I need to highlight the text.

[Neo Geo MVS]

I don't really hate Ronaldo, but like you said, he's a kid. A very talented kid who has a lot to learn. He just got a good lesson today. To be honest, this is good for him. If he wins everything at such a young age he'll become decrepit like Maradona.

Oh shit Wasabi fucked up, how dare you say the Great Maradona was decrepit.

Maradona is the greatest soccer player of all time. (Period) & Ronaldo isn't even a twinkle in Maradona's eye.

No futbol player is loved around the world as much as Diego Maradona is!!!

Here is a whole stadium chanting for Maradona when he returned to Napoli. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4GcjDFfRc8&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TClYDs3yG74&feature=related

2 championships 1 italian cup 1 italian supercup 1 uefa-cup with the underdog napoli against million dollar clubs like milan,juventus or inter !!
The above statement was taken from the second video clip which shows how he DOMINATED IN ITALY!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tCoMtPuL3Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGMaE2RWOjg

[Hidden Character]

YAAAAAAHHHH!!!! :multi_co::drool:

I can't believe it, we just beat Portugal, the favorite with their Ronaldos and Decos 2:3 in an AWESOME match.

Guys, I kid you not, I was close to a heart attack during the last four minutes of extra time, that was the most exciting match I've seen in a long time.

Okay, now the next match will determine our semis opponent, either Turkey or Croatia. We still have a thing to settle with Croatia so it would be cool to meet them again. Then again, Germany - Turkey would be da bomb.

Hidden Character,

most of the time the announcer shouts the name of the scorer and assisting player, the fans answer with the surnames. So, in this case, we have 0:1 Bastian Schweinsteiger (assist Lukas Podolski), 0:2 Miroslav Klose (assist Schweinsteiger) and 1:3 Michael Ballack (assist Schweinsteiger).

Phew, I need a few more beers now...

Deutschlaaaaaand!!!! :D

Thank you for clearing that up for me and Germany vs the dark horse known as Turkey would be a fan-fucking-tastic game.

[Xander Crews]

At one point maradona was the best, but after the coke he went downhill fast. He even said it himself - if he never touched coke he would have been greater than Pele without question.



Oh shit Wasabi fucked up, how dare you say the Great Maradona was decrepit.

Maradona is the greatest soccer player of all time. (Period) & Ronaldo isn't even a twinkle in Maradona's eye.

No futbol player is loved around the world as much as Diego Maradona is!!!

Here is a whole stadium chanting for Maradona when he returned to Napoli. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4GcjDFfRc8&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TClYDs3yG74&feature=related

2 championships 1 italian cup 1 italian supercup 1 uefa-cup with the underdog napoli against million dollar clubs like milan,juventus or inter !!
The above statement was taken from the second video clip which shows how he DOMINATED IN ITALY!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tCoMtPuL3Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGMaE2RWOjg

[Neo Geo MVS]

At one point maradona was the best, but after the coke he went downhill fast. He even said it himself - if he never touched coke he would have been greater than Pele without question.

:lol: Maradona is better than Pele and he would never say Pele was better than him, you must have not seen those video links I put up.

Show me a stadium chanting for Pele like the video I posted up & not from his own country.

Show me pages and pages of youtube comments of people swearing Pele was the best player ever and from multiple nationalities around the world.

Show me Pele taking a small ass club like Napoli to winning multiple championships?

Did Pele ever make a Olympic goal like Maradona did.

You can't because Pele never did any of these.

Pele also played around a over great team and didn't carry the ENTIRE team like Maradona always did.

You need to go do your research and stop assuming Pele is the best because he is not.



Pele never did shit on a european team don't ever forget that. :lolz: :lolz: :lolz:



Maradona is the best and will always be the best :D

[Neo Geo MVS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TClYDs3yG74&feature=related

Show me 1 youtube clip that can compare to this, please SOMEONE prove me wrong.

Show me Pele making a Olympic goal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_goal) like Maradona did in the above video. (1:41) It was also to the first pole and not the second like a normal Olympic gol.

Case closed :

Maradona is the King of futbol.

Gracias por todo la alegria Diego :D

[Professor Denim]

Yup, ManU - Chelsea. That's what happens if you take things too lightly.

that was not too lightly.He hesitated at last second.He was not confident enough,like other players in that PK shootout who also failed.

about Maradona;we live in difrent times now.There will never be another Maradona like there will never be another Orson Wells. Or another Elvis.
but the best or not,Maradona is probally the greateast football icon,for the best and for the worst.

[Neo Geo MVS]

about Maradona;we live in difrent times now.There will never be another Maradona like there will never be another Orson Wells. Or another Elvis.
but the best or not,Maradona is probally the greateast football icon,for the best and for the worst.

I agree with you, times are different and futbol in Pele's day wasn't the same as it was in Maradona's day much like it isn't the same today. If anything futbol gets more complicated and harder with each and every coming year, IMO.

Pele was a great icon for futbol too I won't deny that but I can't say better than Maradona, I'm Argentinian so it's impossible for me to judge him above Maradona much like its impossible for a Brazilian to say Maradona was better than Pele. We all have different opinions and everyone is entitled to their own.

[Xander Crews]

that was not too lightly.He hesitated at last second.He was not confident enough,like other players in that PK shootout who also failed.

about Maradona;we live in difrent times now.There will never be another Maradona like there will never be another Orson Wells. Or another Elvis.
but the best or not,Maradona is probally the greateast football icon,for the best and for the worst.

lol the blind love for Maradona is hilarious. Fact is, Maradona is known in the football community, but Pele is known even outside of it, much like Beckham.

And so there lies the problem - the success hit Maradona while he was still maturing and it destroyed him. So we go back to CR7, and how his early success needs some failures to keep him hungry for more growth, more evolution.

[Neo Geo MVS]

lol the blind love for Maradona is hilarious. Fact is, Maradona is known in the football community, but Pele is known even outside of it, much like Beckham.

Blind love? WTF :rolleyes: its not blind love wasabi it's how he made the game beautiful :D I don't expect you wasabi to understand nor anyone else who doesn't watch or know about Argentinian First Division futbol.

You guys think a world cup final has pressure you obviously never seen a superclassico (super derby in english)

Boca Jrs vs River Plate

match before. Watch one sometime you might be surprised. I know its the biggest club rivalry in existence. Bigger than any they have in europe from any country. :lolz:

You still didn't prove me wrong wasabi did Pele play in europe and take a underdog team to winning multiple championships, did he ever make one Olympic goal is he loved like a GOD in another country that is not his own?

I think the blind love for Pele is what you actually mean lol

[Xander Crews]

You're out of your mind. Football teams rise and fall. Newcastle is crummy now, but a few years ago it was the cat's vagina. Napoli back then had more than Maradona, it had Zola, who was one of the best goalkeepers of all time. They spent big cash to bring in Maradona, and a lot of other players.

If you think Manchester United feel any differently about CR7, it's because they've been successful throughout history.

And why do you want to talk about Boca Jrs vs. Riverplate? Do you want to talk about Inter and AC Milan? Roma and Lazio? Manchester United and Manchester City? Juventus and Torino? Come on man. Think I've never seen a good game because I don't live in Argentina? Neither do you.




Blind love? WTF :rolleyes: its not blind love wasabi it's how he made the game beautiful :D I don't expect you wasabi to understand nor anyone else who doesn't watch or know about Argentinian First Division futbol.

You guys think a world cup final has pressure you obviously never seen a superclassico (super derby in english)

Boca Jrs vs River Plate

match before. Watch one sometime you might be surprised. I know its the biggest club rivalry in existence. Bigger than any they have in europe from any country. :lolz:

You still didn't prove me wrong wasabi did Pele play in europe and take a underdog team to winning multiple championships, did he ever make one Olympic goal is he loved like a GOD in another country that is not his own?

I think the blind love for Pele is what you actually mean lol

[Professor Denim]

l Fact is, Maradona is known in the football community, but Pele is known even outside of it,

The merchandising available for Maradona is ridiculos.from cartoons to toys!

[Takumaji]

Man, what a party that was last night!!

You should have been here, streets were full of cars, flags and crazy happy people, the city-wide party went on until 2 or 3 in the morning.

Hey Portugal, thanks for an awesome match, sorry for kicking you guys out but there's always next time, see ya'll in South Africa 2010! :buttrock:

Oookay...

Day 14 -

Second day of the quarter finals, today's match will determine the semi final opponent of Germany:

Croatia - Turkey

As I said before, Turkey would be all sorts of awesome. We have a large Turkish population over here, matches between Germany and Turkey are always very special.

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A word on Maradona, he was a gifted player and the heart and soul of his team, that's for sure. However, I prefer the English and Central European fighting style over artsy-fartsy footy any day so I never admired Maradona or made a saint out of him like some people do.

[bakaichi]

I like how South American and us European football fans are so noncelant. "These Europeans just run back and forth, there's no play". "What's up with all this kicking the ball back and forth in the midfield in South American football, ther's no action". It really adds some spice to the world cups.

I'm happy Portugal is out although they weren't as bad as last time, they just can't handle a smack in their face (which is why I diddn't think they could beat Greece in the final four years back), and they are really not playing that sexy if you ask me. Congratulation Germany, you did it again.

I hope and belive Croatia winns today although Turkey never gives up I give them that much, I whish Norway could play whith this kind of enthusiasm.

[Takumaji]

Yep, nothing beats a bit of bitching, it keeps things interesting and gives people something to do between the matches! :D

Yeah, many people bet on Croatia tonight and rightfully so judging from the 1st round, overall they played more balanced and precise than the Turks. However, the Turkish team has a very high morale, wouldn't surprise me if they could turn tables like they did against the Czechs.

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~ An dieser Stelle 'nen schönen Gruß an die Fußballfreunde im Feuerwerk-Forum von mondfeuer! :cool: ~

[Arthas]

cmon wasabi, you should already know that arguing with an argentinian about maradona is like arguing with a brick wall

[recon_zero]

You fools, the best player ever was Johan Cruyff. :oh_no:

I'm glad Portugal is out. Filipao needs to go and CR7 needs to cry :tickled:

[Atro]

A nowadays match with maradona, the pitch wouldn't have plaster marks.

It's unbelievable how come people still tries to compare Maradona to Pelé...

Pelé won 3 out of 4 World cups and that is a Record which will NEVER be beaten in our lifetime. NEVER.
Pelé scored much more than Maradona's.

Maradona's might have scored a splendid goal against England in 86, but he's not comparable.

Pelé can only be compared to Eusébio and Di Stefano.
Maradona's in the Van basten league ( which was a hell of a player ).

As I read above, arguing with argentinians about Diego Maradona, I still don't figure why they take him so much as a God... He's nothing but a bad example to anyone in the world with his drug and alcohol addictions...

And before I get flammed... yes, he was a hell of a player.

[bakaichi]

A nowadays match with maradona, the pitch wouldn't have plaster marks.

It's unbelievable how come people still tries to compare Maradona to Pelé...

Pelé won 3 out of 4 World cups and that is a Record which will NEVER be beaten in our lifetime. NEVER.
Pelé scored much more than Maradona's.

Maradona's might have scored a splendid goal against England in 86, but he's not comparable.

Pelé can only be compared to Eusébio and Di Stefano.
Maradona's in the Van basten league ( which was a hell of a player ).

As I read above, arguing with argentinians about Diego Maradona, I still don't figure why they take him so much as a God... He's nothing but a bad example to anyone in the world with his drug and alcohol addictions...

And before I get flammed... yes, he was a hell of a player.

There's a few things you don't take in account here:
Brazil could have done without Pele, he played on a team so creamd with brilliant players, Argentina (and Napoli for that matter) couldn't. If for nothing more the oppositions awe at the sight of him.

Maradona wasn't a striker (you dumbass :p).

[Takumaji]

As I read above, arguing with argentinians about Diego Maradona, I still don't figure why they take him so much as a God... He's nothing but a bad example to anyone in the world with his drug and alcohol addictions...

I have to disagree here. If anything, his struggle with coke and alc showed quite clearly that he's not the futbol god people made him out to be but a normal human being who makes mistakes.

In this way, I find Maradona more interesting than Pele, the latter is a bit too politically correct for my taste, his über-human football skills notwithstanding.

Still, my football heroes have different names... Gerd Müller, Paul Breitner, Horst Hrubesch, Johan Cruyff, Zico, Uwe Seeler, to name but a few.

[kobylka68]

The Turkey and Croatia game should be a good today. I'm sure the German squad would like to play Croatia in the semi-final just so that they can prove they can beat them.

[ratson]

Is there going to be a classic Germany-Netherlands game?.I hope not i just started to like them:D

[Shito]

Germany-Italy would also be a hell of a final. :)

Oh well, gotta think about Spain first. And then the eventual re-match with Holland...

[kobylka68]

Looks like we're going into extras and possibly PKs. 0-0 is a veru surprising score considering some of the great chances that there were during normal time.

[Neo Geo MVS]

Think I've never seen a good game because I don't live in Argentina? Neither do you.

None of those team rivalries can compare to the Boca vs River Plate rivarly.

I don't live in Argentina but I have vacation there many times and I've been to both River Plates stadium twice and Boca Jrs stadium once.

I also saw the USA vs Mexico in the Copa America 1995 in Uruguay where they went to penalty kicks and if someone can find footage of it me and my family (Father, Grandfather, Uncle and I) were the only ones rooting for the USA, we had a American flag with us as well.

[Neo Geo MVS]

Brazil could have done without Pele, he played on a team so creamd with brilliant players, Argentina (and Napoli for that matter) couldn't. If for nothing more the oppositions awe at the sight of him.

Maradona wasn't a striker (you dumbass :p).

Atrophyed you just got schooled. :lolz:

[Neo Geo MVS]

OMG Turkey scored at the last freaking minute, this goes to show to NEVER GIVE UP.

[Takumaji]

Just like I thought, the Turks really have guts, that's for sure.

Now the fucking penalty kicking starts...

EDIT:

It's over, Turkey won PKs, they will be our opponent in the semi-final match come Wednesday.

[Neo Geo MVS]

Wow what a upset, Germany made it to the Final IMO. Turkey is no match for Germany.

[Xander Crews]

Wow what a upset, Germany made it to the Final IMO. Turkey is no match for Germany.

LOL what a fucking opinion.

Turkey beat out a Croatia that outclassed Germany, while Turkey was down on men. Their second string goalie was phenomenal. As stated during the game, Austria hasn't seen this much action since the Ottomans fought the Hapsburgs back in the Battle of Vienna in 1683.

It will be a great game. The pressure is heavily on the shoulders of Germany now.

[Neo Geo MVS]

LOL what a fucking opinion.

Turkey beat out a Croatia that outclassed Germany, while Turkey was down on men. Their second string goalie was phenomenal. As stated during the game, Austria hasn't seen this much action since the Ottomans fought the Hapsburgs back in the Battle of Vienna in 1683.

It will be a great game. The pressure is heavily on the shoulders of Germany now.

Turkey is the one who has pressure you fool, Germany has futbol history behind them and MASSIVE experience that Turkey can't even compare too and it will show when they play, we'll see when they play wasabi then I will bring this post up after Germany wins.

Did you see the game they both like shit it was a horrible game for both of them until the very end. :lolz:

Some of those Turks can't even trap a ball LOL

[Atro]

Atrophyed you just got schooled. :lolz:

When you're rooting for a team and watching football matches on a daily basis, got to a stadium twice a month, you can "school me" ...

Brazil not depending on Pelé or not still does not make him inferior to Maradona.
If Brazil did not depend, Santos did. And Santos was the best team when he played there. There was no Nacional Montevideo, Peñarol or Boca that could compare at that time too.

I'm not only a casual football supporter that only cares about it when majors competitions comes every 4 years, so go figure...

As for the comments about River Vs Boca, the rivalry is just stupid because their fans behave mostly like animals and there's always riots at every derby.
And don't come to say it's casual , coz it happens every year ( sometimes with deaths )

A super match where fans act like savages does not grant it the title for the best derby.
I'd never take it over a good Madrid V Barcelona or a Manchester United V Liverpool.

Anyway, back on topic -

Turkey is now onfire ! With a luck like this, they are as candidates as any of the other strong teams.
It feels like 2004 Greece luck ( poor C. Republic ) but with the diference that the turks PLAY football and not anti-football.

Bet houses shall reconsider their favorites ! ;)

[Atro]

Maradona wasn't a striker (you dumbass ).

And where have you seen me saying he was ? :spock:

[Neo Geo MVS]

When you're rooting for a team and watching football matches on a daily basis

You moron I watch games everyday at work, I have a 36 inch TV mounted behind me at work.

[Neo Geo MVS]

Show me a brazilian club that has more CHAMPIONSHIPS than my Boca Jrs you fool.

:lolz::lolz::lolz:

[Atro]

Turkey is the one who has pressure you fool, Germany has futbol history behind them and MASSIVE experience that Turkey can't even compare too and it will show when they play, we'll see when they play wasabi then I will bring this post up after Germany wins.

Did you see the game they both like shit it was a horrible game for both of them until the very end. :lolz:

Some of those Turks can't even trap a ball LOL

So what ?

what was Greece 4 years ago ? A phenomenal football potency ? ROFLMAO:lol::lol::lol:

The germans being more experienced or not doesn't mean shit at this point.
About every other team in the tournament except for the hosts have more experience than the turks, and a lot of them are now out.

they made it to the final 4. they can do it to the great final.

from your point of view, we can only have winners that were already champions.

[Atro]

Show me a brazilian club that has more CHAMPIONSHIPS than my Boca Jrs you fool.

:lolz::lolz::lolz:

You know, Brazil is the main worldwide potency football wise for some reason.
Unlike in Argentina where Boca only is rivaled by River Plate and very occasionally by Estudiantes de la Plata, Independiente or even Velez Sarsfield, they have Santos, Palmeiras, São Paulo, Corinthians, Grémio Porto Alegre, Flamengo and Fluminense to compete with. They have to share... they have more competition.

That statement is as ridiculous as Comparing Celtic with Manchester United... Celtic rivals only with Glasgow Rangers, thus has twice as much championships as Man Utd.

[Neo Geo MVS]

As for the comments about River Vs Boca, the rivalry is just stupid because their fans behave mostly like animals and there's always riots at every derby.
And don't come to say it's casual , coz it happens every year ( sometimes with deaths )

A super match where fans act like savages does not grant it the title for the best derby.
I'd never take it over a good Madrid V Barcelona or a Manchester United V Liverpool.

Your as stupid as they come Atrophyed what riots are you talking about, superclassicos never have riots whats so ever, are you talking about outside the stadium or inside?

Go watch your european futbol which is FULL of Argentinians and Brazilians players playing for a country who can't even make its own players like SPAINS Barcelona or Real Madrid you need to get your head from out of your ass.

England is another story they have produced some decent futbol players.

[Neo Geo MVS]

The Copa Libertadores is the biggest cup for clubs in all of south american and Argentinian clubs have 21 over Brazils 13.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_Libertadores

[Neo Geo MVS]

Again more proof your stupid and dont know shit about clubs in south america the Intercontinental Cup.

Argentina : 9

Brazil : 6

[Xander Crews]

Turkey is the one who has pressure you fool, Germany has futbol history behind them and MASSIVE experience that Turkey can't even compare too and it will show when they play, we'll see when they play wasabi then I will bring this post up after Germany wins.

Did you see the game they both like shit it was a horrible game for both of them until the very end. :lolz:

Some of those Turks can't even trap a ball LOL

Dude, you can say what you want, but I'm of the opinion that Turkey can win this one. If they don't I won't be losing any sleep. I'm sure you will though, since you're strongly opinionated about Germany winning. How does Turkey have more pressure than Germany? Germany have underperformed up until Portugal, while Turkey have exceeded all expectations.

Don't tell me - you've never known pressure in your entire life.

[Atro]

The Copa Libertadores is the biggest cup for clubs in all of south american and Argentinian clubs have 21 over Brazils 13.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_Libertadores

We weren't talking about Libertadores. You were talking about championships. It's a very different story. Don't try to turn tables.

And if they come to Europe it's not because we lack good players here.
If I remember, last World Cup had no South American teams in the semis. All euro, so if they come to play in European clubs it's because of "la plata" ( €€€€ for those who aren't familiar ) and for greater challenge.

And before Boca was an expressive club in S.America, Real Madrid already was the biggest club in the world.
Winning the 5 first Champions League, in that era, there was no Bosman law. So they were at least 8 spaniards out of 11 players.
Same goes for Internazionale, AC Milan or Juve. They had 99% italian players.
Want me to say so for Ajax, Benfica, Liverpool, Bayern Munich ?

Get over it.

[Xander Crews]

Again more proof your stupid and dont know shit about clubs in south america the Intercontinental Cup.

Argentina : 9

Brazil : 6

Brasil really caressssssssssssssss. Count the World Cups.

[Atro]

Brasil really caressssssssssssssss. Count the World Cups.

Or Copa America :tickled:

[Neo Geo MVS]

Brasil really caressssssssssssssss. Count the World Cups.

You see this shows how a lot of you know nothing about futbol, it all begins on the club level and that is a fact or do you think they just wake up one day and are the best futbol players in the world.

Brazil might be our daddy on the national level but Argentina is brazils daddy on the club level.

Oh wasabi you got me :lolz: your a shmuck I dont care to have the most titles I care about how important it was to win our two titles.

Argentina beat Team Futbol in 1978 on Argentinian soil, brazil can never claim this only Germany and Argentina can and Brazil came in second place on their own soil World Cup 1950 by losing Uruguay.

& in 1986, do I even have to say why or don't you all already know :lolz:

[Neo Geo MVS]

And if they come to Europe it's not because we lack good players here.
If I remember, last World Cup had no South American teams in the semis. All euro, so if they come to play in European clubs it's because of "la plata" ( €€€€ for those who aren't familiar ) and for greater challenge.

And before Boca was an expressive club in S.America, Real Madrid already was the biggest club in the world.
Winning the 5 first Champions League, in that era, there was no Bosman law. So they were at least 8 spaniards out of 11 players.
Same goes for Internazionale, AC Milan or Juve. They had 99% italian players.
Want me to say so for Ajax, Benfica, Liverpool, Bayern Munich ?

Get over it.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: take your head from out your ass like norton would say shmuck. I laugh at every single one of those clubs. I actually have a true club I root for, I'm not like your dumb asses (wasabi included) who follows whatever club is champions at the moment changing sides every year and having no passion for the beautiful game.

[Atro]

You see this shows how a lot of you know nothing about futbol, it all begins on the club level and that is a fact or do you think they just wake up one day and are the best futbol players in the world.

Brazil might be our daddy on the national level but Argentina is brazils daddy on the club level.

Oh wasabi you got me :lolz: your a shmuck I dont care to have the most titles I care about how important it was to win our two titles.

Argentina beat Team Futbol in 1978 on Argentinian soil, brazil can never claim this only Germany and Argentina can and Brazil came in second place on their own soil World Cup 1950 by losing Uruguay.

& in 1986, do I even have to say why or don't you all already know :lolz:

You are moronic.

I only support my team and my country. I couldn't care less for the others.
All statements were just on a comparison level. Don't get blind.

As for your title in 78, in the military dictature, everyone knows that championship was a bullshit lie.
A NON-FANATIC argentinan friend of mine says the same. He's the first to admit that the suspicious 6-0 against Peru were combined to leave Brazil out of the Final vs Holland.
Brazil didn't went through because of that bullshit arranged match in favor for the hosts.

Want to proceed to 86 and tells us how that magical "hand of god" led Argentina to proceed ?

Tell me a tournament won by Argentina without controversy. ^^
You simply can't.
I'm done arguing with you. It seems I'm talking with a brickwall.

[Hidden Character]

LOL what a fucking opinion.

Turkey beat out a Croatia that outclassed Germany, while Turkey was down on men. Their second string goalie was phenomenal. As stated during the game, Austria hasn't seen this much action since the Ottomans fought the Hapsburgs back in the Battle of Vienna in 1683.

It will be a great game. The pressure is heavily on the shoulders of Germany now.

That was quite possibly the greatest soccer/football match I've ever seen in my life and the extra time and PK had enough drama for 5 Super Bowls and World Series. I'm still pulling for Germany to win it all, but if in the semis they get the works, it can be said that it's really no one's business but the Turks.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2008/soccer/specials/euro_championship/2008/06/20/turkey.croatia.ap/turkey_st.jpg
Silence!!

[Xander Crews]

Anyone can be a fan of Boca Jrs. You live in the US dipshit, not Buenos Aires. So what happens when BJ wins a gam? You probably just say "that was a good game" and go to bed. You have probably never experienced living in a country that won a championship. You can just say "when I was a little nino, my daddy told me about Argentina winning a world cup."

I'm real impressed with your knowledge of the game.

I bet if I was to ask you who Turkey's best player is, you'd have to wikipedia it. Maybe even google it.



You see this shows how a lot of you know nothing about futbol, it all begins on the club level and that is a fact or do you think they just wake up one day and are the best futbol players in the world.

Brazil might be our daddy on the national level but Argentina is brazils daddy on the club level.

Oh wasabi you got me :lolz: your a shmuck I dont care to have the most titles I care about how important it was to win our two titles.

Argentina beat Team Futbol in 1978 on Argentinian soil, brazil can never claim this only Germany and Argentina can and Brazil came in second place on their own soil World Cup 1950 by losing Uruguay.

& in 1986, do I even have to say why or don't you all already know :lolz:

[EVIL NICK]

Anyone can be a fan of Boca Jrs. You live in the US dipshit, not Buenos Aires. So what happens when BJ wins a gam? You probably just say "that was a good game" and go to bed. You have probably never experienced living in a country that won a championship. You can just say "when I was a little nino, my daddy told me about Argentina winning a world cup."

I'm real impressed with your knowledge of the game.

I bet if I was to ask you who Turkey's best player is, you'd have to wikipedia it. Maybe even google it.

Servet?

[Atro]

Servet?

What Servet , what Sukur...

Hasan Sas was the man ! :cool:

[recon_zero]

Way to derail the fucking thread.

Great game today. Missed the two goals damn!

[EVIL NICK]

Way to derail the fucking thread.

Great game today. Missed the two goals damn!

I didn't get to watch, and it's no fun watching the game if you know how it ends. :(

[Takumaji]

Day 15 -

Holland - Russia

Third day of the quarters, today the current top favorite Holland meets a courageous (and very young) Russia. The Dutch haven't made any glaring mistakes in their matches so far, their style is compact but agile and of course they have very dangerous scorers. Russia's coach Guus Hiddink knows van Basten and the team quite well, he was the Oranje national coach from 1995 to 98.

Oranje's success is overshadowed by the death of Khalid Boulahrouz's baby daughter Anissa who died shortly after birth a few days ago. My heartfelt condolences go to Khalid, his wife Sabia and the family... may the little angel rest in peace. The Dutch players will wear black bands in memory of Anissa in tonight's match against Russia.

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As for Turkey and our semi-final match against them come Wednesday, the Turks are quick and real fighters but from what I've seen last night in the match against Croatia, they lack precision and technical finesse. Overall Croatia was the better team, the PKs were pure luck, just like the late Turkish goal, what a blow for Croatia... ah well, that's football. The Turks are quite dangerous now, they burn red hot and are 101% motivated to give our lads a hard time. Still, I believe that Germany will come out 1st if they go at it like they did against Portugal.

EDIT:

This thread is about Euro 2008 and not South American futbol, thank you.

[bakaichi]

I hate pk shootouts, the best team always looses. I hope to see Germany beat Turkey only because they have a better side. Today's a new day a new 1/4 final and anything can happen, both Italy and France created chances against Neterlands so I'm sure this Russian team will to.

[racecar]

the croatia and turkey game was awsome, when i saw the turkist goalie left the goal and got cut off i was screaming OH FUCK !!! but i hink the croatian celeration got carry over for too long and they sorta forgot about simple defence( just clear the fucking ball back to the oppisite side of the field) a little mistake cause them the game after turkey score, actually off the back of a defenceman.. the craotia team was in shock and that shit got carry over to the shoot out miss first shot and 3rd like what the fuck david beckem worldcup moment ` how the fuck can you missed the goal completely:annoyed::annoyed:

[Takumaji]

GaZONG, 0:1 for Russia by Pavlyuchenko... can't believe it.

30 mins. to go, this won't be the last goal.