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DegenerateSkate
05-16-2008, 09:55 AM
It's been said that there was no US MVS release of Neo Bomber Man, but I have seen this label on several Neo Bomber Man MVS carts. It looks authentic to me. Is it Korean or European or something?

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t38/degenerateskateboards/neobomberman.jpg

dannywhac
05-17-2008, 05:37 AM
I was gonna ask the same question after seeing 2 of these on eBay - prolly I reckon a Korean label along the lines of Salubi Spirits etc?

chris1
05-17-2008, 12:23 PM
Hmmm.

Are the boards real?

...............
I don't know..:confused: I had a Neo Bomberman with a label like that(not as clean) but the cart was a boot(I've been through a lot of bombermans:mad: )..So I assumed the whole thing was a boot with well done repro label>Because as far as I "knew" the cart only came with a Japanese label.......

I have a printed out Bomberman Mini Marquee in "English'..and one in Japanese for my Japanese Neo Bomberman cart...I have no clue how the mini marquee got to be in english> if there are no English labeled,artwork or mini marquees made for an english/European version of this game..Or was there?


Maybe?Since is NA

http://www.hardmvs.com/labels/labelDetail.php?recordID=93

dannywhac
05-17-2008, 02:21 PM
The same label on a cart from France:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a259/dannywhac/4ffd_1.jpg

Thought the same as you C - that there's only a Japanese release - always weirded me out though - no matter what region bios I've got running on my MVS (other than Japanese) the text in the game comes up Spanish?

DegenerateSkate
05-17-2008, 02:56 PM
confusing shit.........:conf:

Xian Xi
05-17-2008, 05:32 PM
Check the boards, looks like a boot to me.

werejag
05-17-2008, 06:27 PM
im looking at the same label on a boot i was given awhile back

dannywhac
05-18-2008, 06:13 AM
So what's with the Spanish in-game text? Originally popped in there for release and just left, or did they release it Euro/S. America?

laugh
05-18-2008, 06:47 AM
It could be Korean. ALL Neo Bomberman carts in Korea have that label, boot or not.

laugh
05-18-2008, 06:59 AM
Also, I'd like to add that the master list is not complete, it's THE MOST complete list on the internet probably, but it's not 100%. A lot of Korean releases aren't documented (mostly due to lack of info) in the list. There are localized Korean versions of some quiz games that came out in MVS forms, and Korea's also had releases of games previously thought to be Japan-only.

chris1
05-18-2008, 10:59 AM
Also, I'd like to add that the master list is not complete, it's THE MOST complete list on the internet probably, but it's not 100%. A lot of Korean releases aren't documented (mostly due to lack of info) in the list. There are localized Korean versions of some quiz games that came out in MVS forms, and Korea's also had releases of games previously thought to be Japan-only.


Hmm..

That's some great info,thanks..

Could you help to complete/add to the Master List ..the non documented Korean releases ..

I'm not sure who does the master list but more info for it would be great..

Neo Alec
05-18-2008, 12:06 PM
I've seen that label a lot too.

The master list also misspells "Ultra Denryuu Irairabou". I mean, what the hell is "Iararabou"? The mistake has been propagated all over the Net by now.

laugh
05-19-2008, 10:37 AM
Hmm..

That's some great info,thanks..

Could you help to complete/add to the Master List ..the non documented Korean releases ..

I'm not sure who does the master list but more info for it would be great..
No problem. It's no good keeping it to myself.

Right now, I'll just list some games that hasn't been documented about nor dumped.

*Quiz King of Fighters - only a few location test MVS carts were made, fully Korean, translated and programmed with localized Korean questions by Viccom in 1996 (I own a cart myself)

*Quiz Sarip Tamjung (Quiz Daisousa Sen) - Also fully translated and localized in Korean by Viccom in 1995. Seems to have been released semi-wide, but I'm guessing it wasn't massively produced based on its rarity. (I'm still on a look out for a cart for this one)

*Ninja Masters - This game was only available as income test carts in Korea. Not localized.

Here (http://ruliweb.empas.com/ruliboard/read.htm?main=ac&table=guild_neo&page=1&left=i&find=content&time=0&db=2&num=7625)'s a link to a post on a Korean neo community, that shows carts the fully localized games as well as in-game captures.

dannywhac
05-19-2008, 11:02 AM
Would this:

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1559106&postcount=9

Be a Korean release of Kabuki Klash?

laugh
05-19-2008, 01:59 PM
Would this:

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1559106&postcount=9

Be a Korean release of Kabuki Klash?
Definitely not. Korean Kabuki Klash release has the same label as the US version.

ResO
08-09-2009, 02:58 AM
The same label on a cart from France:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a259/dannywhac/4ffd_1.jpg

Thought the same as you C - that there's only a Japanese release - always weirded me out though - no matter what region bios I've got running on my MVS (other than Japanese) the text in the game comes up Spanish?

I've had a 100% boot with that label. If it was a true Korean English label, I'd think it would say "Made in Korea" on it, not Made in Japan. The Korean Last Blade 1 & 2 carts are the only Korean carts that are made in Japan, to my knowledge.

Until I see a complete kit with that label, I'm writing it off as a fake.

lowerlevels
08-08-2012, 02:27 PM
Here is a US release Neo Bomberman with mini marquee. http://www.flickr.com/photos/7982338@N07/7741773736/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/7982338@N07/7741776460/in/photostream

lowerlevels
08-08-2012, 02:29 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7982338@N07/7741773736/in/photostream

lowerlevels
08-08-2012, 02:32 PM
Couldn't upload picture so please use this link to flickr.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7982338@N07/7741773736/in/photostream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7982338@N07/7741776460/in/photostream/

Because I cannot find any information on this, any insights would be great.

Xian Xi
08-08-2012, 02:48 PM
Couldn't upload picture so please use this link to flickr.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7982338@N07/7741773736/in/photostream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7982338@N07/7741776460/in/photostream/

Because I cannot find any information on this, any insights would be great.

A US/Euro release was never made so any label that is English is most likely a boot.

rcantor77
08-08-2012, 03:31 PM
Couldn't upload picture so please use this link to flickr.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7982338@N07/7741773736/in/photostream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7982338@N07/7741776460/in/photostream/

Because I cannot find any information on this, any insights would be great.

The label does look convincing, but so does Xian Xi's... :D

As for the Mini Marquee, look at the line across the top... now that is certainly not square and something that SNK would ever release.... definitely a bootleg i'm afraid.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7258/7741776460_227344eec8.jpg

rcantor77
08-08-2012, 03:32 PM
The Korean Last Blade 1 & 2 carts are the only Korean carts that are made in Japan, to my knowledge.


Not sure where you got that piece of info...

http://mvs-scans.com/images/thumb/7/7b/Last_blade_kr_label.jpg/640px-Last_blade_kr_label.jpg

lowerlevels
08-09-2012, 09:44 AM
Thank you for your thoughts. I do have one more question. On this particular MVS cart, there is a warranty sticker with the arcade distributor's name and information, essentially a "warranty void if removed". The sticker also contains a serial number with in my mind equals transparency. The arcade distributor is World Wide Video out of San Diego, California.

http://www.worldwidevideo.biz/


I did research on this distributor and they are still in business and appear to be reputable with many large commercial accounts such as Gameworks, Dream Machine, Boomers, Dave and Busters and Time Out Arcades.

My question: Was or is it common for high profile distributors to sell bootleg kits, especially during a period when SNK of America was alive and well?

Here is a picture of the sticker on the cart. If the picture doesn't get uploaded, I will also add a link.

Thank you.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8304/7746642390_02d7296998_m.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7982338@N07/7746642390/in/photostream

Neo Alec
08-10-2012, 12:17 AM
It is very possible that a distributor had a bootleg back in the day and was unaware of it. The whole bootleg phenomenon was much less documented a decade or so ago.

...Or it could just be relabeled.

SNKorSWM
08-10-2012, 12:58 AM
I've gotten a boot with the void stickers over the screw holes. Didn't stop me from ripping it open and check though.

lowerlevels
08-10-2012, 08:56 AM
Thank you for the explanations. I now believe that this cart is a bootleg. My father owns an arcade company and I have started selling surplus items and I have been doing research on everything and ran into a blank wall regarding the U.S Neo Bomberman. I didn't know how to price it and there is someone selling the U.S Neo Bomberman for two hundred dollars on a particular site. It seems that it's a bootleg, especially with the poor quality of the mini marquee. I also believe that a Real Bout Fatal Fury Special Cart that I have is also a bootleg, also coming from the same distributor. The mini marquee is of poor quality just as the Neo Bomberman. The other carts that I have which have a high quality mini marquee must be authentic. So, if one has the mini marquee, that appears to be a good litmus for whether the cart is a bootleg, essentially the quality level of the mini marquee.

Is it illegal to sell a bootleg cart on Ebay? Of course I would label the item as being a bootleg cart so as not to be a criminal.

SNKorSWM
08-11-2012, 12:24 AM
If you're selling bootlegs, people can report you.

One way to unload them is to offer the boots as freebies for people who buys a genuine cart from you.

lowerlevels
08-14-2012, 10:16 PM
Thank you SNKorSWM.

Kid Panda
08-14-2012, 10:33 PM
Thank you for the explanations. I now believe that this cart is a bootleg. My father owns an arcade company and I have started selling surplus items and I have been doing research on everything and ran into a blank wall regarding the U.S Neo Bomberman. I didn't know how to price it and there is someone selling the U.S Neo Bomberman for two hundred dollars on a particular site. It seems that it's a bootleg, especially with the poor quality of the mini marquee. I also believe that a Real Bout Fatal Fury Special Cart that I have is also a bootleg, also coming from the same distributor. The mini marquee is of poor quality just as the Neo Bomberman. The other carts that I have which have a high quality mini marquee must be authentic. So, if one has the mini marquee, that appears to be a good litmus for whether the cart is a bootleg, essentially the quality level of the mini marquee.

Is it illegal to sell a bootleg cart on Ebay? Of course I would label the item as being a bootleg cart so as not to be a criminal.

just because the MM is fake doenst mean the cart is, or the MM being real and the cart being a boot. the best way to determine whether its a boot or not is to go here... open the cart and check the boards ;)
http://mvs.gotwalls.com/index.php/Main_Page#Games_-_PCB

lowerlevels
08-21-2012, 12:46 AM
Thanks Panda. I found out that World Wide Video had been targeted in a F.B.I sting on behalf of SNK USA, regarding piracy. I will open up the cartridges, though I am uncertain how to keep the label intact.

Edit: Thanks Panda. You are absolutely correct. The Real Bout Fatal Fury Special had a cheap MM but the board , through looking at the MVS scan appears to be 100 percent legit. So, anyone who might have faulty thinking as I had, one really needs to open up the cartridge to find out whether the cart is a boot or not.

Edit: Ok, I opened up the neobomberman cart and now I have a mystery. The boards have SNK written on them, but the chips appear to be intel flash yet some of the chips seem original. I checked the MVS scan and they are indeed very different from this PCB.


http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh498/lowerlevels/c5f94258.jpg

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh498/lowerlevels/24c832e6.jpg

I am guessing boot as it has flash chips but not sure if that's a hallmark of a boot.

Xian Xi
08-21-2012, 06:07 PM
Full on boot. Even the PCM, 273 and ZMC are fakes.