Quick EDIT form

Approved. Good stuff!

Could you guys make it avaliable on the whole forum, instead only in WR?

uh, why?

Lochlan said:

uh, why?

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Uh, cause it's practical?

Verythrax said:

Uh, cause it's practical?

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Nonsense. (What a terrible answer.)

It's practical to replace perfectly-working functions? Practical for whom? You can still edit posts without the "quick edit form". So you're proposing that a whole new system be implemented across the forums that does something we can already do (but using a slightly different approach)? Who benefits from this, and how?

Sounds like a lot of work for no gain -- and for what, your own arbitrary preference?

(If a page request is really killing you, it's time to upgrade from 56k)

Lochlan said:

Nonsense. (What a terrible answer.)

It's practical to replace perfectly-working functions? Practical for whom? You can still edit posts without the "quick edit form". So you're proposing that a whole new system be implemented across the forums that does something we can already do (but using a slightly different approach)? Who benefits from this, and how?

Sounds like a lot of work for no gain -- and for what, your own arbitrary preference?

(If a page request is really killing you, it's time to upgrade from 56k)

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Man, did you ever used it? One click will open the quick edit, another click (when the quick edit is open) will open the actual edit page. So, no damage done.

Oh, and get you head outt of your ass when talking to me, man.

Verythrax said:

Man, did you ever used it? One click will open the quick edit, another click (when the quick edit is open) will open the actual edit page. So, no damage done.

Oh, and get you head outt of your ass when talking to me, man.

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Uh yeah, I know what you're talking about, which is why I think it's so fucking stupid.

If you knew anything about software development (or even could assume common-sense about cost/benefit analysis) you would see why this is a silly waste of time.

Lochlan said:

Uh yeah, I know what you're talking about, which is why I think it's so fucking stupid.

If you knew anything about software development (or even could assume common-sense about cost/benefit analysis) you would see why this is a silly waste of time.

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Man, let me repeat: GET YOU HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS. I know a bit more about it than you think. To make it available at the rest of the forum they just need to check a checkbox on a admin screen, usually. This forum is a stock software, moron.

Unless someone made some custom tweaks.

Verythrax said:

Man, let me repeat: GET YOU HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS. I know a bit more about it than you think. To make it available at the rest of the forum they just need to check a checkbox on a admin screen, usually. This forum is a stock software, moron.

Unless someone made some custom tweaks.

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You are so silly. You are making a lot of assumptions about the server, the software running the boards, and the amount of time taken by software maintenance. You are assuming that these boards, which have down time regularly, are somehow immune to problems -- because, after all, large databases with a lot of web traffic like this one aren't fragile or anything, right? Things never go wrong arbitrarily when it comes to web servers, right?

(and IIRC the mods only have limited access to the server -- I believe they don't even have an FTP password)

Finally, you are assuming that your suggestion has any merit in the first place. You have yet to answer my question about why the quick edit is so great. Personally, I hate it -- I much prefer the way it is now.

Bottom line: it's somebody else's work for marginal (or no) gain, and who the hell knows if it might potentially introduce problems? (I know you don't!)

must be something that popped up in a recent VB update. I had no clue this existed out of football-chat.net.

If the code is already present for the WR, would the code be able to be copied and applied to the other forums? It makes sense in theory to me as I don't see how the WR is any different than any other sub-forum here aside from small tweaks.

I like the idea of a quick edit. It's just a bit easier to edit the text you just posted in its place and save it instantly.

ONE LINE OF CODE

I approve, because its faster.

lochlan needs to STFU.

Doctor Shroom said:

I approve, because its faster.

lochlan needs to STFU.

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This post is full of win and good.

Lochlan, I didn't reply your question cause it is worthless.

And what part of stock software you didn't understood? You try to sound like you know shit about web, but you are just making a fool of yourself, kiddo.

I like the quick edit too. It's more convenient for when you computer or connection is slow.

Verythrax said:

And what part of stock software you didn't understood?

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The search tool is included functionality as well, but anybody who's tried to use it much knows that it doesn't work correctly (try putting in a query of any semi-long length to get a "Fatal Error" screen).

[And AFAIK "quick edit" functionality is heavily dependent on the version of vBulletin. A search of the vBulletin forums also turns up a lot of cases of people who have problems using the quick edit feature, particularly when installing modifications for additional quick edit features -- the normal quick edit is pretty bare bones. And if you want quick edit AND a regular reply, I believe that's additional work]

My point wasn't that using quick edit was going to instantly ruin everything, just that you need to thoroughly test any newly implemented functionality, and I don't think that it's worth the change. That's it, end of story; sometimes shit goes wrong because of random server configuration issues.
Obviously some people will disagree with me, everyone clearly has their own preference, but the fact remains that making any template change is more than "just clicking a check box", even if that's all that is required for the initial implementation.

My reason for not liking quick edit is that without unsupported modifications it lacks a lot of the formatting features (i.e buttons) of the regular edit and I'm not an expert on formatting posts using its syntax.

Besides which, ignoring anything, any change is at the whim of Mouse Master and I don't think he'll be changing this anytime soon.

its already implemented in the war room, and it works fine.

i cant imagine it would be all that much work to have it elsewhere.

not sonic said:

its already implemented in the war room, and it works fine.

i cant imagine it would be all that much work to have it elsewhere.

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certain things work in the warroom and nowhere else, and vice versa. Mouse Master can explain this better, but from what I saw, the code isn't just laying out in the open to be mixed and matched. It's part of the template that was built upon for the warroom.

wasabi said:

certain things work in the warroom and nowhere else, and vice versa. Mouse Master can explain this better, but from what I saw, the code isn't just laying out in the open to be mixed and matched. It's part of the template that was built upon for the warroom.

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Oh, so it uses a different template. I thought that all that differences in WR were just some preferences that were setup through the admin area.

Considering that the form was "transplanted" before, maybe some workarounds were needed. It falls in the "custom tweaking" realm, I guess

Verythrax said:

Oh, so it uses a different template. I thought that all that differences in WR were just some preferences that were setup through the admin area.

Considering that the form was "transplanted" before, maybe some workarounds were needed. It falls in the "custom tweaking" realm, I guess

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I don't even see the quickedit button in the warroom. It might even be unique for the regular user group.

wasabi said:

I don't even see the quickedit button in the warroom. It might even be unique for the regular user group.

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You will not see a specific button for that. It's the same edit button, but it opens the "quick" version first. You need to click it again to open the normal one.

Well if you mean that you don't see the quick form no matter what, just ignore the first sentence.

Verythrax said:

You will not see a specific button for that. It's the same edit button, but it opens the "quick" version first. You need to click it again to open the normal one.

Well if you mean that you don't see the quick form no matter what, just ignore the first sentence.

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The quickedit function is on for the entire forum, but only the warroom allow it, for some reason. I see now what you mean in how it works. This is probably an issue for Mouse master.

wasabi said:

The quickedit function is on for the entire forum, but only the warroom allow it, for some reason. I see now what you mean in how it works. This is probably an issue for Mouse master.

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I browsed the search code for this page and a WR page and there's some difference. I think that the WR one calls something else. I don't think posting the difference here will help, though, since only Mouse Master can do anything about it, anyway.

Another +1 for implementation if it's not too much work for M_M.

I like that function in the WR.

This thread is fantastic.