What kind of power supply I need for a NEO-AES3-6?

yami · Nov 27, 2007

Hi, please someone could tell me what kind of power supply I could use (also not original) for a NEO-AES3-6?

THANKS

Xian Xi · Nov 27, 2007

yami said:
Hi, please someone could tell me what kind of power supply I could use (also not original) for a NEO-AES3-6?

THANKS

Is it US or Japanese?

yami · Nov 27, 2007

Xian Xi said:
Is it US or Japanese?

Hi, thanks for the answer!

It is Japanese !!!

MKL · Nov 27, 2007

The region doesn't matter, they're all the same. You can use a 9v or 12v PSU rated at least 800mA.

BIG BEAR · Nov 27, 2007

I have a couple of 3-6 's that use 5v 3a
BB

Xian Xi · Nov 27, 2007

MKL said:
The region doesn't matter, they're all the same. You can use a 9v or 12v PSU rated at least 800mA.

No they're not. There are 3 with the same output but 1 with a different one.

I asked if it was English because if it was then it would be the only 120v PSU which is 5v 3A.

PRO-POW
power input AC100V
power output DC5V 3A

PRO-POW-UL
power input AC120V
power output DC5V 3A

PRO-POW2
power in AC100V
power out DC5V 3A

PRO-POW3
power in AC100V
power out DC10V or DC11V

If your power in is AC100V then you've got a Japanese system. US Systems power input is AC120.

yami · Nov 28, 2007

... so which "pro-pow" should i use ??? :conf:

Thanks

P.S. Ciao MKL !!!

MKL · Nov 28, 2007

Xian Xi said:
No they're not. There are 3 with the same output but 1 with a different one.

I asked if it was English because if it was then it would be the only 120v PSU which is 5v 3A.

Trying to infer the specs of a given board revision from a list of official PSUs specs is an incorrect approach. Your list doesn't include the PRO-POW-PAL (AC220-240 DC5V 3A) and the PRO-POW-E (AC100-120-220-240 DC10V 1A) which render your line of reasoning inconclusive.

3-6 revisions have invariably the same power input circuit, there are no 5v versions unless it's a hack.

yami said:
... so which "pro-pow" should i use ???
Thanks

P.S. Ciao MKL !!!

ciao

You should use a PRO-POW-3 or a PRO-POW-E if you're looking for an official PSU. Or you could get a non official one with the specs I indicated in my first post. In this case the PSU also needs to have a plug with negative tip.

yami · Nov 28, 2007

MKL said:
Trying to infer the specs of a given board revision from a list of official PSUs specs is an incorrect approach. Your list doesn't include the PRO-POW-PAL (AC220-240 DC5V 3A) and the PRO-POW-E (AC100-120-220-240 DC10V 1A) which render your line of reasoning inconclusive.

3-6 revisions have invariably the same power input circuit, there are no 5v versions unless it's a hack.

ciao

You should use a PRO-POW-3 or a PRO-POW-E if you're looking for an official PSU. Or you could get a non official one with the specs I indicated in my first post. In this case the PSU also needs to have a plug with negative tip.

Negative tip it means "polarità negativa"?

And... there is a way to know FOR SURE if the AES it's japanese, or it doesn't matter?

THANKS !!!

Xian Xi · Nov 28, 2007

MKL said:
Trying to infer the specs of a given board revision from a list of official PSUs specs is an incorrect approach. Your list doesn't include the PRO-POW-PAL (AC220-240 DC5V 3A) and the PRO-POW-E (AC100-120-220-240 DC10V 1A) which render your line of reasoning inconclusive.

3-6 revisions have invariably the same power input circuit, there are no 5v versions unless it's a hack.

Why do you get so defensive? When you correct me I dont respond like that, you did that to Channelmaniac as well. Plus your response contradicts what you said earlier in the thread.

And BTW I had a 3-6 and my PSU was a 5v 3A.

MKL · Nov 28, 2007

yami said:
Negative tip it means "polarità negativa"?

Sì. Vuol dire che la spina ha il negativo all'interno e il positivo all'esterno. Purtroppo la maggior parte degli alimentatori in commercio sono invece a polarità positiva. Solo su alcuni alimentatori è possibile invertire la polarità.

yami said:
And... there is a way to know FOR SURE if the AES it's japanese, or it doesn't matter?

Matters for what? For power? Let's try to settle the matter once for all: if your board is, as I believe, like this:

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/1314/s2022964ps9.jpg

then just stick to what I told you in the posts above. If it's different, i.e. if the components in the yellow area are missing or if there is a daughterboard or anything else, then post a pic. But I'm 100% sure that's not the case.

If you're just curious about the system region and currently have no cart to test it with, look at the code on the bios: if it says NEO-PO it's Japanese. Most probably it's Japanese as the vast majority of 3-6 revisions are Japanese.

Xian Xi said:
Why do you get so defensive? When you correct me I dont respond like that

Huh? I simply said "incorrect" and "inconclusive". Do you really find it harsh or aggressive? If so I apologize but it wasn't meant to be.

Xian Xi said:
Plus your response contradicts what you said earlier in the thread.

That must be a misunderstanding. I meant that 3-6 boards (not the PSUs) are all the same powerwise, no matter what the bios region is.

Xian Xi said:
And BTW I had a 3-6 and my PSU was a 5v 3A.

I posted above a pic of the power input circuit on a 3-6. There isn't room for a 5v circuit unlike on previous revisions. Post a pic (also Big Bear) and if it's really 5v we should see something non standard on it.

Xian Xi · Nov 28, 2007

No problem dude, I just woke up when I read it. But when I look at that pic it doesnt look like the one I had because I remember my board having a 3 prong regulator as I had to replace it since it was cracked.

If I still had my AES I would post a pic but I sold it about 9 months ago or so. Hopefully BB has a pic or something because this is just weird. Unless SNK really didnt care about keeping things uniform with the 3-6.

yami · Nov 28, 2007

Here is a photo of the AES board. I haven't power supply and carts to test, so I've done this photos to be sure:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/yami1983/DSCF0238.jpg

... so with this board I should use a PRO-POW-3 or PRO-POW-E or a generic power supply with 9v or 12v, 800mA and negative tip that's right?

Ehm... where is the bios? (to see if it's Japanese?)

MANY THANKS TO ALL FOR THE HELP!!!

MKL · Nov 28, 2007

yami said:
Here is a photo of the AES board. I haven't power supply and carts to test, so I've done this photos to be sure:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/yami1983/DSCF0238.jpg

... so with this board I should use a PRO-POW-3 or PRO-POW-E or a generic power supply with 9v or 12v, 800mA and negative tip that's right?

Yes. A Megadrive PSU will also do.

yami said:
Ehm... where is the bios? (to see if it's Japanese?)

It's the 40-pin Toshiba chip labelled SP1 close to the right edge of the board.

yami · Nov 28, 2007

MKL said:
Yes. A Megadrive PSU will also do.

It's the 40-pin Toshiba chip labelled SP1 close to the right edge of the board.

Ok thanks, it's 100% japanese.

So you mean obvioulsy a japanese genesis PSU right?

GRAZIE !!!

MKL · Nov 28, 2007

yami said:
So you mean obvioulsy a japanese genesis PSU right?

No, I mean the PSU you use on your PAL Megadrive.

yami · Nov 28, 2007

MKL said:
No, I mean the PSU you use on your PAL Megadrive.

Perfetto! Grazie MKL !!!

BIG BEAR · Nov 28, 2007

I made a mistake,my bad. The 3-3 and the 3-5 are 5v 3a and the versions in my possesion atm,the 3-6 is definitely a JPN unit 10v 1000ma model that I no longer have.
I snapped a photo fo my 3-5 for future reference.
Large AES 3-5 photo
BB

Xian Xi · Nov 28, 2007

BIG BEAR said:
I made a mistake,my bad. The 3-3 and the 3-5 are 5v 3a and the versions in my possesion atm,the 3-6 is definitely a JPN unit 10v 1000ma model that I no longer have.
I snapped a photo fo my 3-5 for future reference.
Large AES 3-5 photo
BB

Ya I just looked up an old email when I was emailing Jeff for a Neobitz for my AES and ya it was a 3-5, sorry MKL. No wonder nothing in that picture looked familiar.

So just to clarify there were actually 6 different PSUs for the AES?

MKL · Nov 28, 2007

Xian Xi said:
So just to clarify there were actually 6 different PSUs for the AES?

To the best of my knowledge, yes. I don't know if more PRO-POW2 versions exist though. Oddly, the PRO-POW3 is actually called NEO-POW3.

PRO-POW
type: wall-mount
power input AC100V
power output DC5V 3A

PRO-POW-UL
type: wall-mount
power input AC120V
power output DC5V 3A

PRO-POW-PAL
type: desktop
power in AC220-240V
power out DC5V 3A

PRO-POW2
type: wall-mount
power in AC100V
power out DC5V 3A

NEO-POW3
type: wall-mount
power in AC100V
power out DC10V 1000mA or DC11V 700mA

PRO-POW-E
type: desktop
power in AC110-120-220-240V
power out DC10V 1A

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