Bill Burger finally goes to the dark side

mainman

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Well after years of bill burger know as bbu97159656tcy on ebay screwing me he finally scams me in a bold way.

This is the primary thing he would do. I would accumulate multiple won items from him over his 30 day window period. I would then pay him with a money order because I was screwed by paypal, but thats a different story. I would print out a nice list with item numbers, names, double spaced, big font, bolded on a single piece of paper and explained for him to double check but for some reason he aways screwed up by forgetting to pack a item, usually the expensive one.

Instead of just shipping the item he forgot out seperately on his dollar because after all he was the one who made the shipping error, he forced me to wait to pack it with next next round of outstanding items I won from him causing a repeating endless loop.

Ok, this is how he scammed me. I bought 3 broke 1 slots from him. One was as described, one was a bait and switch because it was a totally different one slot with different problem and one did not come at all, which is part of his endless loop scam. I was way past tired of him at this point. I decided to break this loop by canceling 2 current auctions I had going with him so he could not say I put it in the next shipment. I then ask him to either give me the exact 1 slot I won or give me a refund and to ship the other 1 slot he left out.

Now here the part your not going to believe he offer me a $10 refund on the 1 slot that was wrong and made no mention of the other he did not ship. In reality I paid $25 for the incorrect 1 slot he sent and on top of that he wanted me to ship it back on my dime which would run me $10, do the math there.

I explain this to him about firstly the incorrect value of the item, him playing senile about the missing item and lastly the joke of me paying for his mistake. He then sends me this email.

forget i am done dont bid on my items thanks for the previous business good luck to you

So there you have it, I'm shit out of luck. If I neg him, with all the items I bought from him that he has not left feedback for which is 20 or so, he can neg me for every single one and effective suspend my account by default.
 

SpamYouToDeath

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Neg him and report him to eBay. Don't be a pussy here.

This guy's a huge asshole and needs to get what's coming to him.
 

matt009au

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Neg him and report him to eBay. Don't be a pussy here.

This guy's a huge asshole and needs to get what's coming to him.

agreed, but if your worried about the neg rep just copy and paste what you wrote here to ebay and see what they say. They probably have a way of removing neg rep? Although I'm not sure. But you should definitely do something about it stop other people getting the same scam.
 

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This is absolutely ridiculous. Between him and Rade I'm besides myself. How does eBay/PayPal not have a better system than this?
 

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ShmengeTravel said:
This is absolutely ridiculous. Between him and Rade I'm besides myself. How does eBay/PayPal not have a better system than this?

Agreed!

Mainman..step up and report him to ebay.

Give them the facts and proof.
 

mainman

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Yeah I took SpamYouToDeath advice and at least reported him to ebay. The harsh reality about the feedback is, if your familar with me I have tons of arcade stuff, a couple of thousands worth of spare board, etc. I cannot afford to be suspended from ebay as I would be unable to off load this stuff.
 

Xian Xi

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mainman said:
Yeah I took SpamYouToDeath advice and at least reported him to ebay. The harsh reality about the feedback is, if your familar with me I have tons of arcade stuff, a couple of thousands worth of spare board, etc. I cannot afford to be suspended from ebay as I would be unable to off load this stuff.

You could always wait until the last day to leave a negative. But personally I havent even left him the negs he deserves as I dont want to get one either.
 

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sadly there is no getting your money back, however a nice sized brick throgh his front windows would probably be the most satisfying
 

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I've never bought his shit and I never will. Im sorry to hear about this mainman. It's unfortunate when people act like this.
 

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agreed, that sucks. The most grating part of it really though is his flippant response after all the money you've brought to him, hard to see how he can just write someone off like that? Money is money and bricks are bricks.

Yet another downside to the wonderful world of ebay.
 

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Sorry to hear you had a problem with Bill mainman. Dealings with him usually go over super smooth in my experience but he does make a mistake here and there but has always done me right in the end. For the most part though his prices are unbeatable and I've bought some items from him I haven't seen anywhere else. I still wonder what he's like in real life, has anyone here ever met him in person?
 

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setharnott said:
agreed, that sucks. The most grating part of it really though is his flippant response after all the money you've brought to him, hard to see how he can just write someone off like that? Money is money and bricks are bricks.

Yet another downside to the wonderful world of ebay.
The guy is a retard.

I have bought a few things off him... but the last item i bought went like this...

- I paid.
- Bill sent.
- I recieved.
- Feedback was left.
- Bill launches non-paying bidder. 20 days later.
- I put forward my case.
- Bill never saids a word and wins.
- I complain, win counter get my mark removed and made sure he didn't get his ebay funds refunded.
- 3 months later i try to bid and find out i was blacklisted.

What a fuckwit.
 

mainman

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The Chief said:
I still wonder what he's like in real life, has anyone here ever met him in person?

Funny you would mention that.

I emailed him stating I would warn other collectors about him and since I paid him with a postal money order with express mail that has his signature right on paper i would file a mail fraud claim with the postal service just to drive a point home and here is what I got in response word for word and I shit you not

i have you email where you clear threaten my livelyhood so you cast fist stone, i will never back down from such a threat. and i will make good on my promise to you my friend see you soon.

:lol:

Yeah I would definately like for him to make good on this promise. If anything I should be tracking his ass down but all I have is a po box and a 5 year old address which probably isn't valid anymore. But thats ok him coming to me will legally validate any and all unexpected responses.

Will that on any account should give you insight on this guy personality.


sneek said:
The guy is a retard.

I have bought a few things off him... but the last item i bought went like this...

- I paid.
- Bill sent.
- I recieved.
- Feedback was left.
- Bill launches non-paying bidder. 20 days later.
- I put forward my case.
- Bill never saids a word and wins.
- I complain, win counter get my mark removed and made sure he didn't get his ebay funds refunded.
- 3 months later i try to bid and find out i was blacklisted.

What a fuckwit.

Why would you ever consider given him your business again after he screwed you once.
 
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I bought a bunch of items from him in the past. Never had a problem with him. But one item I bought from him on ebay was a NAMCO NA-1 ROM board for the game Bakuretsu Quiz Ma-Q Dai Bouken. But his item description specifically described it as a JAMMA board which made me think that it was the Namco NA-1 motherboard, not a ROM-board. (If you read his item descriptions, they are sometimes very unclear.)

When I got the item, I sent him a polite email stating as follows:

Hello. I won this item from you. However, you listed it as a JAMMA baord and it is not a JAMMA board. While I am satisfied with the other items I won from you, I am not satisfied with this one. I would like to know how you would like to handle this. Please let me know. Thank you.

He responded as follows:

dont bid on my item if you can read or look at pictures

As if he is in a position to criticize when he can't type grammatically correct sentences or even spell properly.

Anyhow, I had already won more items from him that I had not yet paid for. So I figured I would add a few more to my order before he ships it so I can save on shipping. Well, when I go to bid, I found out he blocked me from bidding. I couldn't believe it. For all the items I won from him in the past, because I sent him that one email quoted above, he responds rudely and blocks me.

Now that I know he treated XianXi and Mainman in a similar fashion, I feel more comfortable in posting this about him.
 

mainman

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Bibliophile said:
As if he is in a position to criticize when he can't type grammatically correct sentences or even spell properly.


Yeah whats up with that. He gets his terminology wrong also, is he lazy or illiterate or both. Did he also respond to seperate parts of your single email with multiple email too.

Screw him, he only taking food out his own mouth as he informed me selling broke arcade gear is his primary source of income
 

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I love BB. Been buying from him for years and only had two bumps. Once he sent me the wrong board and I sent it back and got my board in a week or so. Other time he left a marquee out of a 7-8 marquee order. It wasn't one I really cared about, but he said he would stick it in with my next order. He did and all was well.


Sorry others have had bad experiences. He doesn't have a history of being the nicest guy to deal with.
 

mainman

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NGT said:
I love BB. Been buying from him for years and only had two bumps.


Just a matter of time my friend before the love is gone
 

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I've bought from him a few times. He sent me the wrong amp one time, but refunded me the money and then black-listed me. I emailed him and told him to remove the ban so I could purchase from him....and he did so immediately. no probs since
 

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mainman said:
Just a matter of time my friend before the love is gone


One time I got a Pyson Winning Eleven 2003 setup with control panel for $125 shipped from BB. Now that's love :)
 

mainman

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NGT said:
One time I got a Pyson Winning Eleven 2003 setup with control panel for $125 shipped from BB. Now that's love :)


What can I say, he'll buy you dinner screw you afterwards then throw you to the curb when he finished
 

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Heh Bill Burger just seems like a miserable prick. I've dealt with him before, but I've heard others say he's kind of a bitch to deal with if you have a problem. Good luck sorting this. :(
 

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mainman said:
What can I say, he'll buy you dinner screw you afterwards then throw you to the curb when he finished


Well, I just get dinner.....and it's been years. I'm sure I'll get reemed for this, but I always get the feeling people who get dicked by him treat him like your average forum member/ebayer, but don't think about people who are actually not in it for the gamer or not even in the sale for the money more just to clear stuff out. So, they expect forum style service and throw a fit when they don't get it. Then get treated like some forum member throwing a fit.
 
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mainman

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NGT said:
Well, I just get dinner.....and it's been years. I'm sure I'll get reemed for this, but I always get the feeling people who get dicked by him treat him like your average forum member/ebayer, but don't think about people who are actually not in it for the gamer or not even in the sale for the money more just to clear stuff out. So, they expect forum style service and throw a fit when they don't get it. Then get treated like some forum member throwing a fit.

I wasn't throwing a fit just being humorous, just missing with you man:lolz:

No in my case its about paying for one thing and getting something else and nothing at all. Is it wrong for me to assume I should be entiltled for what I paid for. Remember I dealt with hin for 5+ years and just ignored his mistakes that where always in his favor but when I called him out on it he cut ties and ran still owing me stuff.

It might take a while longer but you will eventually join the disgruntled ranks which is slowly becoming the majority
 
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sneek

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mainman said:
Why would you ever consider given him your business again after he screwed you once.

I wanted 1 small item worth 10 bucks... i thought it wouldn't be a prob.

Just posting my experience... :rolleyes:
 
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