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*Richter*
10-25-2007, 01:42 AM
...so do not bid.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Metal-Slug-NeoGeo-Neo-Geo-AES-NGH-Japanese-Version_W0QQitemZ280166491495QQihZ018QQcategoryZ72 503QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

tony starks
10-25-2007, 11:21 AM
Rich you reckon he knows he is selling a conversion?

starks out...

topher
10-25-2007, 11:32 AM
This is a rare chance to own a copy of the excellent and highly sought-after Japanese version Metal Slug by Nazca for the Neo Geo AES. Very few original Japanese version cartridges were produced, making the home cartridge version highly desirable to own as both a game and a collector's item. The game is nearly 12 years old now and finding an original version in such excellent condition would be very difficult indeed. The game is in absolutely excellent overall condition and has been stored in a non-smoking house in a protective case.


Based on the underlined section he is either attempting a scam or is clueless.

Just out of curiousity, what makes you so sure it's a conversion? The auction pics look right compared to http://www.neo-geo.com/snk/carts/jap/metalslug.jpg. I don't mess around with AES stuff only MVS so I really don't know what to look for without looking at the prog boards.

tony starks
10-25-2007, 12:10 PM
The manual is the give away.

Legit manual:

http://i12.ebayimg.com/08/i/000/bc/51/5b2f_12.JPG

Fake manual:

http://i19.ebayimg.com/08/i/000/bf/42/1614_1.JPG

starks out...

*Richter*
10-25-2007, 01:45 PM
And people are bidding and bidding.

I would inform the bidders but the seller made it a "User ID kept private" aution.

@Tony: I think he dont know that it is actually a conversion.

@Topher:

The manual shows differences to the original, also the insert shows differences:

Original:
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x11/ascensionofthewatchers/metalslugoriginalfront.jpg
Look at the gun: The upper right flash is a bit shorter than the next one to the left.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x11/ascensionofthewatchers/metalslugoriginalback.jpg
Look at the bricks on the very left: A barely visible row of bricks appears here.

Conversion:
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x11/ascensionofthewatchers/fakemetalslugback2.jpg
Look here at the guns fire: The above mentioned upper right fire flash is longer than the next one to the left.

Also take a look on the bricks on the very left of the back of the insert: In the original artwork is a bit of another few bricks visible, here they are missing.

Conversion no2:
There is another conversion around but this is most of the time sold as a conversion(but I saw it go with a manual as an original on ebay too).

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x11/ascensionofthewatchers/FakeMSfront1.jpg
Here on the front side of the insert there are no differences to the original, the fire flash is like it meant to be.

Backside of the insert: Here we have the above mentioned missing row of bricks and a wrong picture compared to the original.

Spine: The handgrenade is placed behind the screenshot and the info box, in the original artwork it is placed in front of them.

This is all I can tell, hopefully it helps.

tony starks
10-25-2007, 08:18 PM
And people are bidding and bidding.

I would inform the bidders but the seller made it a "User ID kept private" aution.

@Tony: I think he dont know that it is actually a conversion.

@Topher:

The manual shows differences to the original, also the insert shows differences:

Original:
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x11/ascensionofthewatchers/metalslugoriginalfront.jpg
Look at the gun: The upper right flash is a bit shorter than the next one to the left.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x11/ascensionofthewatchers/metalslugoriginalback.jpg
Look at the bricks on the very left: A barely visible row of bricks appears here.

Conversion:
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x11/ascensionofthewatchers/fakemetalslugback2.jpg
Look here at the guns fire: The above mentioned upper right fire flash is longer than the next one to the left.

Also take a look on the bricks on the very left of the back of the insert: In the original artwork is a bit of another few bricks visible, here they are missing.

Conversion no2:
There is another conversion around but this is most of the time sold as a conversion(but I saw it go with a manual as an original on ebay too).

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x11/ascensionofthewatchers/FakeMSfront1.jpg
Here on the front side of the insert there are no differences to the original, the fire flash is like it meant to be.

Backside of the insert: Here we have the above mentioned missing row of bricks and a wrong picture compared to the original.

Spine: The handgrenade is placed behind the screenshot and the info box, in the original artwork it is placed in front of them.

This is all I can tell, hopefully it helps.

Very impressive Rich you have good eyes mate.

Starks out...

Bibliophile
10-25-2007, 08:38 PM
Rich you reckon he knows he is selling a conversion?

starks out...

This guy KNOWS he is selling a conversion.

I am certain that he is the same guy that TerryB sold his conversion to. I think he was in Peterborough, UK at the time.

I remember he tried selling this same item on ebay a few months ago. I think TerryB exposed him in this forum. I sent the guy a question via ebay letting him that he had been exposed as selling a conversion, and shortly thereafter, he ended the listing.

Now he is trying to list it again. I guess he is hoping that he will get away with it this time.

Bibliophile
10-25-2007, 08:47 PM
I was right. Here is the thread from when he tried to sell the same item a few months ago.

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=167032&highlight=simon+conversion

*Richter*
10-26-2007, 01:59 AM
I asked the seller if its original or not, awaiting his reply.

Maybe someone should report this to ebay.

Bibliophile
10-26-2007, 07:26 AM
I asked the seller if its original or not, awaiting his reply.

Maybe someone should report this to ebay.

The problem is that ebay sometimes takes way too long to investigate something like this. By the time they look into it, he will probably have sold it to some unsuspecting victim.

The main thing ebay decides quickly are keyword spamming violations (because they are obvious) and allegations of copyright or trademark infringement (because they could get ebay sued).

tony starks
10-26-2007, 11:28 AM
This guy KNOWS he is selling a conversion.

I am certain that he is the same guy that TerryB sold his conversion to. I think he was in Peterborough, UK at the time.

I remember he tried selling this same item on ebay a few months ago. I think TerryB exposed him in this forum. I sent the guy a question via ebay letting him that he had been exposed as selling a conversion, and shortly thereafter, he ended the listing.

Now he is trying to list it again. I guess he is hoping that he will get away with it this time.

Damn well spotted. The guy has no shame at all. What a bum. Ebay aint gonna make a difference, all we can hope is he does not get much or it. I feel sorry for all those that think it is legit and have placed a bid. :oh_no:

*Richter*
10-27-2007, 04:02 AM
I reported this sucker to ebay, lets see what they are going to do.

matt009au
11-03-2007, 12:34 AM
damn i would have never picked that, just from the bricks and the muzzle flash. What are the most common games that are conversions? Cheers, I haven't really bought a lot of aes stuff off ebay because i don't know what to look for.

tony starks
11-03-2007, 12:49 AM
damn i would have never picked that, just from the bricks and the muzzle flash. What are the most common games that are conversions? Cheers, I haven't really bought a lot of aes stuff off ebay because i don't know what to look for.

You tend to find that the more rare or expensive games Neo games can have conversions, For example Metal slug 1,2,3 Neo Turf Masters, Ninja Masters. You can also obtain MVS only games on the Aes through conversions such as Neo Bomberman etc.. If in doubt about a neo game on Ebay just ask here before bidding.

Starks gone...

matt009au
11-03-2007, 01:17 AM
You tend to find that the more rare or expensive games Neo games can have conversions, For example Metal slug 1,2,3 Neo Turf Masters, Ninja Masters. You can also obtain MVS only games on the Aes through conversions such as Neo Bomberman etc.. If in doubt about a neo game on Ebay just ask here before bidding.

Starks gone...

If your going to buy a known conversion, is it worth the price of the MVS cart, or more or less?

*Richter*
11-03-2007, 04:33 AM
If your going to buy a known conversion, is it worth the price of the MVS cart, or more or less?

Depends on if you really need the game as a conversion due to lack of a MVS setup for example.

For AES players it will be worth the money(MVS only games) because you dont need to buy a arcade machine, MVS board, and so on.

powergeyser
11-13-2007, 07:33 AM
conversion is good for expensive game

tony starks
11-13-2007, 01:22 PM
conversion is good for expensive game

Depends on who you speak to. Some members hate them some members love them. The subject is very taboo.

Neo_Kamui
11-14-2007, 01:31 PM
Hi guys. :)

I have bought this MS time ago in Ebay. I need your expert opinion. Is a conversion or legit?

PICS:

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x250/liondegrans/th_MS1.jpg (http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x250/liondegrans/MS1.jpg)

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x250/liondegrans/th_MS2.jpg (http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x250/liondegrans/MS2.jpg)

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x250/liondegrans/th_MS3.jpg (http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x250/liondegrans/MS3.jpg)

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x250/liondegrans/th_MS4.jpg (http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x250/liondegrans/MS4.jpg)

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x250/liondegrans/th_MS5.jpg (http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x250/liondegrans/MS5.jpg)

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x250/liondegrans/th_MS6.jpg (http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x250/liondegrans/MS6.jpg)

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x250/liondegrans/th_MS7.jpg (http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x250/liondegrans/MS7.jpg)

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x250/liondegrans/th_MS8.jpg (http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x250/liondegrans/MS8.jpg)

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x250/liondegrans/th_MS9.jpg (http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x250/liondegrans/MS9.jpg)

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x250/liondegrans/th_MS10.jpg (http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x250/liondegrans/MS10.jpg)


I wait your answers.

Regards. ;)

tony starks
11-14-2007, 05:30 PM
Legit.

Starks out...

*Richter*
11-15-2007, 12:20 AM
Legit.

Starks out...

yes, legit. 100%

werejag
11-15-2007, 03:20 AM
legit