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Hey everyone. =) I'm sure you've figured out by now that I'm new here-- well, in all honesty I'm new to the arcadescene in general. I'm 22 years old, and while I have fond memories of dumping my quarters into the big red MVS cabinets as a kid, arcades are nearly extinct here now, and I was never able to afford to bring my love of arcade games into my home. Thus, my gaming career consists primarily of PC/console/handheld games.
I'm still not able to afford it, but rather than sitting around and dwelling on how I wish I had an AES system, or how I wish I had a cabinet or two, I'd like to start making steps towards achieving these things. They might be babysteps for the time being, but so be it. I'll do what I can.
The first step I think that I need to take is acquainting myself with the hardware end of things. I've been lurking here off and on for the last month or so-- all of this arcade love absolutely fascinates me. I often find myself confused, though, when I see people talking about arcade hardware. Maybe some of you can help clear things up for me? I know that each platform is going to be different, but there seem to be similar concepts and mechanisms that they have in common. I know it's a tall order, but at this point I really need the whole thing spelled out for me. What all do I need to know about different components? If nobody feels like discussing it with me firsthand, links to places where I can learn these things would still be appreciated. =)
For the future.. what route should I be looking into for my first setup? I know you can't decide that for me, as it would depend on my tastes, but I'm sure some of you guys have great recommendations-- I'm a broke college student, so price is obviously a significant factor.. one way or another, though, I will make it happen. I do realize that this is a very expensive hobby. For my first foray, cheaper will be better. Should I expect to have to do a lot of wood/electrical work? What sort of skills/tools are commonly needed? Is there a huge price difference between cabinet styles, and what about compatibility between them? The smaller 'Astro City' (?) style Japanese cabinets are more appealing to me than the larger standup cabinets seen more commonly here in the west.
Is an MVS setup going to be the best route, maybe? While I would eventually love to own arcade hardware such as the NAOMI and the Atomiswave (they are both home to many games that I adore), I am also a big fan of SNK games and I would get so much enjoyment out of an MVS cabinet. The MVS has the potential to have several games installed at once. How do games work with other arcade hardware? I've seen arcade 'cartridges' pictured as gigantic boards, etc.. in these instances, is there even a common unit that they all plug into? Or is the 'cartridge' the full and complete hardware in of itself? It seems to appear that way, sometimes.
Is an MVS setup going to be cheaper than an AES setup? What sort of advantages/disadvantages am I going to be looking at either either of these?
Meh.. this post was certainly a mouthful. Huge thanks to anyone who stuck it out, and even huger thanks to anyone who takes the time out of their day to respond. I realize that it can be difficult to put up with new users who don't know what they're doing or talking about-- hopefully I will be enlightened as to avoid slopping this place up with my noobness. =)
- koda
daybona
10-11-2007, 09:18 AM
Merc?
Nesagwa
10-11-2007, 09:27 AM
All these new people can fuck off.
Takumaji
10-11-2007, 10:42 AM
Most of your questions have been answered many times already, just browse General Discussion for a while or use the search function and you will find a lot of interesting threads by people in a similar situation.
Basically, going MVS requires a few basic technical skills, knowing how to use a solder stick can't hurt, specially if you want to build your own adaptors to use a MVS board on a standard telly. You could also buy one of those fancy consolized ready-to-play MVS systems but most of them are quite expensive so that does not seem to be an option for you at the moment.
Homecart systems are not that expensive if you don't insist a mint boxed one but the games definitely run into money, specially the newer ones.
I own a homecart system and NGCD and IMO that's the best of two world but that's probably just me.
Oh, and welcome to neo-geo.com, enjoy your stay (if you can).
SNKJorge
10-11-2007, 12:11 PM
I own a homecart system and NGCD and IMO that's the best of two world but that's probably just me.
I think so. The NGCD is just good for exploring the 3-4 exclusive games
it has. Other than that, not even for sentimental purposes it's worth it.
INfintido
10-11-2007, 12:43 PM
All these new people can fuck off.
ditto.
Neo Collector
10-11-2007, 01:05 PM
Welcome and i hope you survive long enough to learn how to walk on this dark lands.
Takumaji
10-11-2007, 01:42 PM
ditto.
That's a mouthful for someone who joined in 2005. :oh_no:
Hey everyone. =) I'm sure you've figured out by now that I'm new here-- well, in all honesty I'm new to the arcadescene in general. I'm 22 years old, and while I have fond memories of dumping my quarters into the big red MVS cabinets as a kid, arcades are nearly extinct here now, and I was never able to afford to bring my love of arcade games into my home. Thus, my gaming career consists primarily of PC/console/handheld games.
I'm still not able to afford it, but rather than sitting around and dwelling on how I wish I had an AES system, or how I wish I had a cabinet or two, I'd like to start making steps towards achieving these things. They might be babysteps for the time being, but so be it. I'll do what I can.
The first step I think that I need to take is acquainting myself with the hardware end of things. I've been lurking here off and on for the last month or so-- all of this arcade love absolutely fascinates me. I often find myself confused, though, when I see people talking about arcade hardware. Maybe some of you can help clear things up for me? I know that each platform is going to be different, but there seem to be similar concepts and mechanisms that they have in common. I know it's a tall order, but at this point I really need the whole thing spelled out for me. What all do I need to know about different components? If nobody feels like discussing it with me firsthand, links to places where I can learn these things would still be appreciated. =)
For the future.. what route should I be looking into for my first setup? I know you can't decide that for me, as it would depend on my tastes, but I'm sure some of you guys have great recommendations-- I'm a broke college student, so price is obviously a significant factor.. one way or another, though, I will make it happen. I do realize that this is a very expensive hobby. For my first foray, cheaper will be better. Should I expect to have to do a lot of wood/electrical work? What sort of skills/tools are commonly needed? Is there a huge price difference between cabinet styles, and what about compatibility between them? The smaller 'Astro City' (?) style Japanese cabinets are more appealing to me than the larger standup cabinets seen more commonly here in the west.
Is an MVS setup going to be the best route, maybe? While I would eventually love to own arcade hardware such as the NAOMI and the Atomiswave (they are both home to many games that I adore), I am also a big fan of SNK games and I would get so much enjoyment out of an MVS cabinet. The MVS has the potential to have several games installed at once. How do games work with other arcade hardware? I've seen arcade 'cartridges' pictured as gigantic boards, etc.. in these instances, is there even a common unit that they all plug into? Or is the 'cartridge' the full and complete hardware in of itself? It seems to appear that way, sometimes.
Is an MVS setup going to be cheaper than an AES setup? What sort of advantages/disadvantages am I going to be looking at either either of these?
Meh.. this post was certainly a mouthful. Huge thanks to anyone who stuck it out, and even huger thanks to anyone who takes the time out of their day to respond. I realize that it can be difficult to put up with new users who don't know what they're doing or talking about-- hopefully I will be enlightened as to avoid slopping this place up with my noobness. =)
- koda
For a first set up, I would say to get a neo candy and stock it with some killer titles. I can't think of a better way to play neo games.
Thanks for the responses. I'll do some more reading around.
How much should I be expecting to pay for a candy cab and the guts to go in it?
INfintido
10-11-2007, 03:39 PM
That's a mouthful for someone who joined in 2005. :oh_no:
which is 2 years :oh_no:
jar155
10-11-2007, 05:24 PM
Thanks for the responses. I'll do some more reading around.
How much should I be expecting to pay for a candy cab and the guts to go in it?
I paid $350 for a candy cab with a BRAND NEW 25" monitor and the Neo Geo wiring harness included. I bought a 4-slot MVS board from another member here for under $200 (already can't remember the price). I'd say depending on availability in your area, you could do it for $500-$600 (possibly with some carts).
Oh, and to everybody deciding to be an elitist prick, what's the deal? Why are you so resistant to new blood? I've only been here for a very short time, but I've already had great experiences with several long-time members. Can't you give a guy a chance before you decide to write them off? Just because somebody found this forum later than you did, it doesn't make them any less valuable to the community unless they choose to be.
Takumaji
10-11-2007, 05:55 PM
which is 2 years :oh_no:
Two years, wow, I'm honestly impressed, seems that you still have a bit of catching up to do even after all these months. Bashing on War Room-only n00b trolls is okay but not on people actually looking for info like this guy here, I really HATE that.
So guys (that goes for our old bbs farts and the n00bs alike), save your stupid comments and flames for the real idiots, thank you.
matt009au
10-11-2007, 06:16 PM
It helps me sleep at night knowing Takumaji is here to protect me
EX_Andy
10-11-2007, 09:38 PM
Being an elitist snob as part of some kind of secret society that could only be joined through great cost and personal hardship might actually make some sense.
Being an elitist snob on a public internet board dedicated to a dead video game system that half the people here have never even played, much less owned and enjoyed in its original format, is beyond retarded. Even for these forums.
Being hostile to newcomers is a great way to make sure the community doesn't grow. Here's a hint to the rocket surgeons in this thread, the same hint I always give on this topic: this community is always shrinking as people lose interest and move on. We've already seen countless days where the only posts are from the same morons posting the same tired shit. Without new blood, it will dwindle down to nothing.
New guy: Don't mind the idiots, there are still some Neo enthusiasts here who are willing to talk hardware and games. Welcome aboard.
joe_higashi19
10-11-2007, 11:30 PM
That's a mouthful for someone who joined in 2005. :oh_no:
I think thats a mouthful for anyone.:spock:
New guy: Don't mind the idiots, there are still some Neo enthusiasts here who are willing to talk hardware and games. Welcome aboard.
Ditto.:smirk:
Hey, I've got a pretty thick skin and I appreciate the help. Thanks.
INfintido
10-11-2007, 11:40 PM
lolz at this thread.
werejag
10-11-2007, 11:46 PM
+1 since this thread seems to be going to hell soon
Lets Gekiga In
11-08-2007, 12:41 AM
+1 since this thread seems to be going to hell soon
To hell and back. Yays.
rarehero
11-09-2007, 07:24 PM
Hey everyone. =) I'm sure you've figured out by now that I'm new here-- well, in all honesty I'm new to the arcadescene in general. I'm 22 years old, and while I have fond memories of dumping my quarters into the big red MVS cabinets as a kid, arcades are nearly extinct here now, and I was never able to afford to bring my love of arcade games into my home. Thus, my gaming career consists primarily of PC/console/handheld games.
I'm still not able to afford it, but rather than sitting around and dwelling on how I wish I had an AES system, or how I wish I had a cabinet or two, I'd like to start making steps towards achieving these things. They might be babysteps for the time being, but so be it. I'll do what I can.
The first step I think that I need to take is acquainting myself with the hardware end of things. I've been lurking here off and on for the last month or so-- all of this arcade love absolutely fascinates me. I often find myself confused, though, when I see people talking about arcade hardware. Maybe some of you can help clear things up for me? I know that each platform is going to be different, but there seem to be similar concepts and mechanisms that they have in common. I know it's a tall order, but at this point I really need the whole thing spelled out for me. What all do I need to know about different components? If nobody feels like discussing it with me firsthand, links to places where I can learn these things would still be appreciated. =)
For the future.. what route should I be looking into for my first setup? I know you can't decide that for me, as it would depend on my tastes, but I'm sure some of you guys have great recommendations-- I'm a broke college student, so price is obviously a significant factor.. one way or another, though, I will make it happen. I do realize that this is a very expensive hobby. For my first foray, cheaper will be better. Should I expect to have to do a lot of wood/electrical work? What sort of skills/tools are commonly needed? Is there a huge price difference between cabinet styles, and what about compatibility between them? The smaller 'Astro City' (?) style Japanese cabinets are more appealing to me than the larger standup cabinets seen more commonly here in the west.
Is an MVS setup going to be the best route, maybe? While I would eventually love to own arcade hardware such as the NAOMI and the Atomiswave (they are both home to many games that I adore), I am also a big fan of SNK games and I would get so much enjoyment out of an MVS cabinet. The MVS has the potential to have several games installed at once. How do games work with other arcade hardware? I've seen arcade 'cartridges' pictured as gigantic boards, etc.. in these instances, is there even a common unit that they all plug into? Or is the 'cartridge' the full and complete hardware in of itself? It seems to appear that way, sometimes.
Is an MVS setup going to be cheaper than an AES setup? What sort of advantages/disadvantages am I going to be looking at either either of these?
Meh.. this post was certainly a mouthful. Huge thanks to anyone who stuck it out, and even huger thanks to anyone who takes the time out of their day to respond. I realize that it can be difficult to put up with new users who don't know what they're doing or talking about-- hopefully I will be enlightened as to avoid slopping this place up with my noobness. =)
- koda
i just wanted to take the time to say i didn't take the time to read anything you wrote.
Lordstar
11-11-2007, 07:51 PM
Thanks for the responses. I'll do some more reading around.
How much should I be expecting to pay for a candy cab and the guts to go in it?
how long is a piece of string. you can pay a few hundred to a few K
Lordstar
11-11-2007, 07:53 PM
i just wanted to take the time to say i didn't take the time to read anything you wrote.
+1:lol:
Abasuto
11-11-2007, 08:02 PM
I think so. The NGCD is just good for exploring the 3-4 exclusive games
it has. Other than that, not even for sentimental purposes it's worth it.
If you lack a MVS set up, the CD is a good way to play some of the earlier pricey titles (MS1, Viewpoint..etc ).
As for the later games, I simply lack the patience with the load times.
rarehero
11-11-2007, 08:24 PM
+1:lol:
+2
OldSchoolGamer
11-11-2007, 09:39 PM
Hello koda and welcome aboard. If your just getting into the neo scene I suggest you get either a NEO GEO CD(to test out the games at a really cheap price)..or if load times bother you...get a CMVS or an AES w/ a Super MVS II adapter. MVS carts are the best way to go unless your a collector who would rather look at games than play them.
MVS carts for the most part cost a fraction of the cost of an AES cart and they are all the same game overall(AES carts use the same chips MVS carts use). I say AES w/ converter or CMVS because its small and easy to use. IF you decide its not for you..you wont have a huge cab sitting around your house or something large to move so its easier to resell. If you decide you like it...you can always upgrade later.
That is my best advice for you...take it as you will.
Hope you enjoy the boards here
videogame2008
05-30-2008, 02:11 AM
Most of your questions have been answered many times already, just browse General Discussion for a while or use the search function and you will find a lot of interesting threads by people in a similar situation.
Basically, going MVS requires a few basic technical skills, knowing how to use a solder stick can't hurt, specially if you want to build your own adaptors to use a MVS board on a standard telly. You could also buy one of those fancy consolized ready-to-play MVS systems but most of them are quite expensive so that does not seem to be an option for you at the moment.
Homecart systems are not that expensive if you don't insist a mint boxed one but the games definitely run into money, specially the newer ones.
I own a homecart system and NGCD and IMO that's the best of two world but that's probably just me.
Oh, and welcome to neo-geo.com, enjoy your stay (if you can).
Hi, i live in China...wish to be your friend
Hi, i live in China...wish to be your friend
:lolz:
Neo Geo MVS
05-30-2008, 08:24 PM
Your not cool unless you joined in 2001 so you should be banished to the darkest corner of the forum because your a noob. This is exactly what many old timers think :lolz:
ElectricGrave
07-02-2008, 02:35 PM
Hi, i live in China...wish to be your friend
I think he really wants to be your friend Taku, given that he took the risk of jumping in the fire just like that. Friendship is a treasure well hidden these days.
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