X-Neo, does it work well?

Loefye · Aug 17, 2003

I may possibly do a trade with someone for a X-Neo and I wanted to know if it would eliminate all the rainbows that I have been getting on Hanzo's sleeves, Galfords sleeves, etc. while using the standard composite hookups. Also, will it make the picture sharper at all? Thanks in advance.

Edit: What will give you better quality, X-Neo or a S-Vid mod?

[ August 17, 2003, 04:50 PM: Message edited by: mikace01 ]

Chairman Kaga · Aug 17, 2003

I have serial #14xxx neo, with both xneo and s-vid mod... xneo has a better picture than the s-vid mod- no more dot crawl, more vivid colors, only minimal color bleeding, but the rainbow effect is still around, i think the only way to get rid of it is to go straight RGB.

XNeo is def better, but it costs a lot more than a mod and is tough to find.

ajk1080 · Aug 17, 2003

whats a x-neo, is it some kind of mod? I have a modded neo with svid and there is definate dot crawl. How do I get a xneo?

Loefye · Aug 17, 2003

Chairman Kaga:
I have serial #14xxx neo, with both xneo and s-vid mod... xneo has a better picture than the s-vid mod- no more dot crawl, more vivid colors, only minimal color bleeding, but the rainbow effect is still around, i think the only way to get rid of it is to go straight RGB.

XNeo is def better, but it costs a lot more than a mod and is tough to find.

So I will still have the rainbows on Hanzo and Galfords sleeves? I thought that S-video eliminated that. It looks like the deal went through and the X-Neo is mine, so I will just have to wait and see once it gets to my place. I really hope the rainbows are slightly less visable with the S-video since that is the main reason I wanted it.

[ August 17, 2003, 06:37 PM: Message edited by: mikace01 ]

Loefye · Aug 17, 2003

ajk1080:
whats a x-neo, is it some kind of mod? I have a modded neo with svid and there is definate dot crawl. How do I get a xneo?

The X-Neo is not a mod, it is a adapter that allows you to run S-video to your Neo-Geo without modding. Here is a picture of a X-Neo, courtesy of Neo Bomberman:

<img src="http://www.castleofcollectibles.com/throne/xneo.jpg" alt=" - " />

[ August 17, 2003, 06:40 PM: Message edited by: mikace01 ]

Talen · Aug 17, 2003

The X-Neo is a video encoder that takes the rgb out from the neo and encodes it into composite and s-vid out. Anyone know what chip is in the x-neo? Lawrence?

RiotoftheBlood · Aug 17, 2003

mikace01:

ajk1080:
whats a x-neo, is it some kind of mod? I have a modded neo with svid and there is definate dot crawl. How do I get a xneo?

Click to expand...

The X-Neo is not a mod, it is a adapter that allows you to run S-video to your Neo-Geo without modding. Here is a picture of a X-Neo, courtesy of Neo Bomberman:

<img src="http://www.castleofcollectibles.com/throne/xneo.jpg" alt=" - " />

How much did you pay for that?

RiotoftheBlood · Aug 17, 2003

Talen:
The X-Neo is a video encoder that takes the rgb out from the neo and encodes it into composite and s-vid out. Anyone know what chip is in the x-neo? Lawrence?

Hmm... so the DIN jack on the Neo has pins for RGB? That makes sense, but I never thought about it.

[ August 17, 2003, 08:43 PM: Message edited by: RiotoftheBlood ]

NGT · Aug 17, 2003

Everytime I try and think about this thing, I see mikace01's sig and forget about everything else...

but from what I can remember, it looks interesting....

SNKJorge · Aug 17, 2003

I have a X-Neo, it actually adds 'dithering'
to the picture. I almost never use it, I prefer
the normal composite. Oh and I never liked the
idea of modding a system, so I couldn't really
tell you.

I paid over $100. That's what they usually go
for anyway.

ResO · Aug 17, 2003

xtoo_short20x:
I have a X-Neo, it actually adds 'dithering'
to the picture. I almost never use it, I prefer
the normal composite. Oh and I never liked the
idea of modding a system, so I couldn't really
tell you.

I paid over $100. That's what they usually go
for anyway.

I agree with you, Jorge. I also prefer the standard composite over the system mods. I own a dedicated MVS cab, and I prefer the composite on my AES over the RBG in my cab. When it comes down to it, I believe that smoother edges look better than obvious pixels.

Loefye · Aug 17, 2003

ResOGlas:

xtoo_short20x:
I have a X-Neo, it actually adds 'dithering'
to the picture. I almost never use it, I prefer
the normal composite. Oh and I never liked the
idea of modding a system, so I couldn't really
tell you.

I paid over $100. That's what they usually go
for anyway.

Click to expand...

I agree with you, Jorge. I also prefer the standard composite over the system mods. I own a dedicated MVS cab, and I prefer the composite on my AES over the RBG in my cab. When it comes down to it, I believe that smoother edges look better than obvious pixels.

The thing is, I'm really not using the S-vid because I want to have a sharper image, I am using it because I want to eliminate the annoying rainbows. I guess I'll have to just wait and see how it works out for me.

Edit: By the way, Neo-Geo games look alot better if you set the VM to low on your TV. Usually it is set on high by default.

[ August 17, 2003, 09:21 PM: Message edited by: mikace01 ]

galfordo · Aug 17, 2003

The thing is, I'm really not using the S-vid because I want to have a sharper image, I am using it because I want to eliminate the annoying rainbows. I guess I'll have to just wait and see how it works out for me.

I've got an XNEO-1, and you will notice a substantial improvement over the Neo's normal composite picture. Using my Japanese Neo (serial number is around 15XXXX, I believe), I noticed that the rainbow effects all but disappeared. I'm pretty picky about that stuff, so it was worth it to me to fork over the 100 bucks.

But personally, I prefer the S-video mod (mine was done by KPJ) over the standard composite and the XNEO-1's S-video, but that's probably a matter of taste. I LIKE to see the sharp edges and the crisp pixels, whereas some prefer a smoother look (which I can understand). So that's sort of what the XNEO-1 gives you - you get the smooth edges of the normal composite, but without the normal color bleeding and distortion. Hope this helps.

[ August 17, 2003, 09:45 PM: Message edited by: galfordo ]

Loefye · Aug 17, 2003

galfordo:

The thing is, I'm really not using the S-vid because I want to have a sharper image, I am using it because I want to eliminate the annoying rainbows. I guess I'll have to just wait and see how it works out for me.

Click to expand...

I've got an XNEO-1, and you will notice a substantial improvement over the Neo's normal composite picture. Using my Japanese Neo (serial number is around 15XXXX, I believe), I noticed that the rainbow effects all but disappeared. I'm pretty picky about that stuff, so it was worth it to me to fork over the 100 bucks.

Personally, I prefer the S-video mod (mine was done by KPJ) over the standard composite and the XNEO-1's S-video, but that's probably a matter of taste. I LIKE to see the sharp edges and the crisp pixels, whereas some prefer a smoother look (which I can understand). So that's sort of what the XNEO-1 gives you - you get the smooth edges of the normal composite, but without the normal color bleeding and distortion. Hope this helps.

Awsome, that is the kind of picture that I am looking for. My AES is serial number 40,XXX but I am sure that the X-Neo will still provide me with the same output that you got with your higher serial number AES.

Edit: One more question, I need to buy a standard s-video cable to go from the X-Neo to the TV correct? What is the best brand to get, or will it even make a difference?

[ August 17, 2003, 09:52 PM: Message edited by: mikace01 ]

RiotoftheBlood · Aug 17, 2003

mikace01:

galfordo:

The thing is, I'm really not using the S-vid because I want to have a sharper image, I am using it because I want to eliminate the annoying rainbows. I guess I'll have to just wait and see how it works out for me.

Click to expand...

I've got an XNEO-1, and you will notice a substantial improvement over the Neo's normal composite picture. Using my Japanese Neo (serial number is around 15XXXX, I believe), I noticed that the rainbow effects all but disappeared. I'm pretty picky about that stuff, so it was worth it to me to fork over the 100 bucks.

Personally, I prefer the S-video mod (mine was done by KPJ) over the standard composite and the XNEO-1's S-video, but that's probably a matter of taste. I LIKE to see the sharp edges and the crisp pixels, whereas some prefer a smoother look (which I can understand). So that's sort of what the XNEO-1 gives you - you get the smooth edges of the normal composite, but without the normal color bleeding and distortion. Hope this helps.

Click to expand...

Awsome, that is the kind of picture that I am looking for. My AES is serial number 40,XXX but I am sure that the X-Neo will still provide me with the same output that you got with your higher serial number AES.

Edit: One more question, I need to buy a standard s-video cable to go from the X-Neo to the TV correct? What is the best brand to get, or will it even make a difference?

It may make a slight difference, but so small that it probably won't be noticable. I paid $60 for a 6' Monster Video 3 cable and it was the biggest waste of money ever. I didn't notice any difference from my $9.99 gold-plated RCA brand cable, and I'm quite picky.

If you have a lot of large motors, generators, transformers and the like in your game room Monster Video may be a wise purchase. loco I still think $50 - $60 is just ridiculous for a cable.

The cable quality issue is blown way out of proportion IMO.

[ August 17, 2003, 10:01 PM: Message edited by: RiotoftheBlood ]

GoosehanX · Aug 20, 2003

On cable quality, I wouldn't pay for a Monster Cable. I wouldn't use the cheap cables that come with DVD players and other items either, as Riot said above you can get a good gold plated cable for around 10 bucks.

Seeing composite after looking at the Neo out of S-Video makes me sick. I've never had the pleasure of seeing a neo done on good RGB though, the arcade games around here have very crappy monitors, I'd take my TV over them any day.

JMKurtz · Aug 20, 2003

The XNEO-1 has the same chip in it as the Neo has - the CXA1145.

Jeff

Talen:
The X-Neo is a video encoder that takes the rgb out from the neo and encodes it into composite and s-vid out. Anyone know what chip is in the x-neo? Lawrence?

MKL · Aug 20, 2003

ResOGlas:
I own a dedicated MVS cab, and I prefer the composite on my AES over the RBG in my cab.

I think you should stress that "in my cab" (evidently with a crappy monitor) unless you wanna be laughed at for the rest of your days... :rolleyes:

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