Dojosky

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I send Don $130 for a sealed PSX legend of mana.
This thread http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165994
on the 31st of May.

Beginning of July I open a paypal dispute just to cover my end as the
deal was dragging out but I never escalate it to a claim...

I let it time out, the thinking behind that was to give benefit of doubt as I
understand Don is a busy fella.

Now he tells me paypal refunded me the $130
as they ruled in my favour on the claim.

What claim would that be then Don ?
I never made one, Paypal have not sent me $130 back nor
given me any notice to any refund.
I've checked the resolultion centre, account history and my bank account.

Where is the $130 cos it ain't there :(

EDIT: I can give a mod access to my paypal account so it can be checked...
I have no problem with that.
 
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Stellaking

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Neo Collector said:
Sorry to hear about that man, hope you get everything solved soon.

It's open and shut really, not like yours...
Thats pretty fucked up right there dude.
 

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Stellaking said:
It's open and shut really, not like yours...
Thats pretty fucked up right there dude.

Truth, at least ive something with me, you got nothing at all but the loss o money, this guys are fucking crazy, i cant believe.
 

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What had happened was that I mailed it out the first time but mustve made error on the address hence the LONG address SI said that sometimes some post office thinks his zip code is located in France but he's actually in UK.

So the package got returned so I was ready to ship it out ... but saw the paypal complaint. And was on a Long Vacation out of town away from home.

Anyways the paypal complaint went thru. I thought paypal has automatically refunded him but my mistake they never did that so I refunded his $ 100% myself.

Then I got a Negative from Him. I accept that I left him a negative based on my anger but I admit my wrongdoing so am willing to contact the MODS to have them remove the feedback I left for him.
 
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we were talking about it PRIVATELY now you chose to make it to the PUBLIC i am going to NEGATIVE YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my friend had to call me and wake me up from my sleep ! and told me about YOUR DAMN THREAD I am hella pissed thanks !!!!

don

A neg for what mate ?
Sending you the money ?
Waiting 2 months and some ?
Being out of pocket ?

Do you really want me to post all PMs to and from ?
Think about it mate.
 

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I'm not gonna ruin you rep Don.
I'm gonna break it all over the fucking site and not just this one.

I am gonna make it a lesson to all.

I'm still $130 down man.

EDIT: I gave you every out Don :very_ang:
 
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Originally Posted by Stellaking
When did you sent the funds back ?
Re-check it Don because no funds have been returned.

The return addy for funds should be:
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Hello there again HONESTLY paypal did it automatically by themselves check uier bank or credit card or paypal balance . Paypal said the buyer has been refunded because paypal was in favor of you so I accepted that and followed it... thanks.

Don



Quote:
Originally Posted by dojosky
Hello there Simon...


Paypal has already refunded you your money that's why I did not re send it since paypal told me that they refunded your money in favor of the buyer (you).... but I still have the game package so if your still interested let me know thanks....

Don



Quote:
Originally Posted by Stellaking
Hey Don.

What news fella ?
If you have any problem shipping this I would
take a return of funds.

LMK

Si.
 
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dojosky said:
I never was gonna give him a NEGATIVE at all but he gave me a NEGATIVE FIRST EVEN AFTER GETTING THE REFUND so I had to leave him a NEGATIVE too ! so here you deserved it !

Since when was it normal practice to leave a negative just because you received one ?
 

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Andyh said:
Since when was it normal practice to leave a negative just because you received one ?

No leave it Andy...

I'll take his fuckin neg.
Lesson learned mate, some scamming fuckers here inn'it.
 

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Don is very honest seller I deal with hem over 5 years he’s one of the best people I know I think it was a error on shipping it happens :)
 

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Seems Stellaking lost his patience on this one. He waited no more then three weeks for the item or a refund and then filed a Paypal claim on a long time member with a good feedback.

I've not known dojosky to be dishonest. I would have given dojosky then benefit of the doubt and tried to work things out. Now I'm not saying dojosky was perfect as I don't know how long he waited before he responded, but from what I can tell, he made an honest effort to refund you the money. He thought Paypal had refunded you the money, which was not the case, and then refunded you after he found out it they had not.

I think it's a bit ridiculous for Stellking to expect dojosky to refund him right away in light of the fact that dojosky thought Paypal had refunded Stellaking already. Had that been the case, Stellaking would have gotten $260 back instead of the original $130.

Best advice I could give you Stellking is to be more patient and understanding when it comes to a matter like this. dojosky is not a scammer, as you can tell by his feedback, so please drop the accusations. He tried to make things right. You, on the other hand, took it upon yourself to make things worse when you should have been a little more mature and given the guy some grace.

Grow up a bit, it will help you in the long run.
 

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(1 of 2)

DEAL THREAD START....

PM'S START...

05-30-2007, 09:26 AM... (SI)
Right... Sorry about that fella, just finishing another
deal thread.

You have a sealed Mana NTSC - US/CAN ?
It never came out on greatest hits state side did it ?

So I assume Black label original in mint contion, I checked around on price as I have no idea...
I can't remember how much I paid for my old copy now.

I've seen it sealed from $82-$199 mate
do you have a price in mind.

Si

05-31-2007, 12:23 AM ... (DON):
never a greatest hits one ... and that price range sounds abt right ... so let me know thanks !
don

05-31-2007, 10:03 AM... (Si)
Sealed and mint.... Mmm.
I dunno Don... $130 shipped tracked ?

Declared as $60 (avoids the import tax here) and as gift,
I take full responsibilities while it's in transit as long as I get the tracking number.

If it sounds good shoot me your paypal addy.

LMK.

Si

05-31-2007, 11:38 AM... (DON)
Sounds good to me my paypal is ******** I hope shipping isn't too much ha LOL thanks again =).

Don

05-31-2007, 03:10 PM... (SI)
Payment sorted Don.

Don't forget to declare as $60.
It shouldn't cost too much to post Don, small CD type package like that...

Wrap it up safe and should be good fella

Confirmation of addy and FAO:

Simon *******
************
************
************
************
************
************
(CONFIRMED ADDY SENT)

05-31-2007, 03:34 PM... (DON)
awesome many thanks ! appreciate it very much !

don

06-09-2007, 10:11 AM... (SI)
Is it on it's way Don,
are we good ?

Si

06-09-2007, 08:11 PM... (DON)
Hello there yeah everythings great and it got shipped out many thanks for your purchase appreciate it and let me know when u receive it thanks.

Don

06-20-2007, 08:26 PM... (SI)
Hey Don.

Mana has not arrived yet...
I'll give it a few more days

Did you ship it EMS ?
Shoot me the reference number when you
get 5 mins mate.

Si.
06-21-2007, 04:34 AM... (DON)
Hello there stellaking am on vacation for few days away from home but should be home in few days when i get home i will search for the tracking # and get it to you thanks !

don

06-24-2007, 10:09 AM... (SI)
Okey doky Don.
If you sent it EMS should be here soon.
I'll let you know when it gets here and throw some feedback on for you mate.

Enjoy your hols fella, lolz...
Ive got 12, 12hr nights shifts in a row to do

Si

06-24-2007, 05:16 PM... (DON)
Yeah no prob . Sounds good... am on vacation for few more days then I should be returning home and will check into the ems form for the tracking numbers and send it ur way... shit sorry abt 12 12 hours shifts that's crazy lol.... hope u endure thru it . Talk soon thanks.

Don

ITEM APPARENTLY LOST IN SHIPPING AND RETURNED TO SELLER.

07-02-2007, 03:51 PM.... (SI)
Phew... Im glad it came back at least and that makes things easier Don

Send it via EMS and if you need more $$$ just let me know mate yeah ? Shoot me a PM or something.

And I'll have it sent ASAP.

I have had some issues with paypal giving out the wrong addy info in the past so this could be the reason if you took the details from the paypal funds invoice ?

I have re-checked my addy details but it looks fine BUT for some reason they have me as being in france or something (weird, and usually this happens when I'm
using ebay with paypal.)

Anyways, use this addy info:

Simon *****
*************
*************
*************
*************
*************
*************

And be sure to LMK if you need anymore funds,
when it's shipped EMS send me the tracking number as I can check the very day it's out for delivery using
http://www.parcelforce.com/portal/pw... I work nights
see and that way I can make sure I'm in or at least awake

Si.
 
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UPDATED DEAL THREAD AND EDITED UPON DON'S REQUEST
(POSTED A HURRY UP)

07-11-2007, 12:02 PM... (DON)
hey there i kept in communication with you promptly whats going on ? paypal took $130 out of my paypal theyre holding the funds for you .. relax as i told ya that i am still away on vacation and that i have requested my wife to re ship it out .. you didnt have to bring up my name in the public i am very pissed now ... i have always communicated with you promptly so please do something about your comments in the public thanks !

don

07-11-2007, 12:50 PM... (SI)

Don...

I've been waiting a while now...
I ask for EMS but I've gotta chase you up,
I still dont know if it's on it's way mate.

Maybe this deal should have been done on your return.
I know your a good bloke and a respected member...
I hear you can run a little late on shipping and your a busy guy but I've never delt with you before have I ?

I've not moved on the claim other that open it at the begining of the month and reply to comments... As of yet no funds have been returned.

I don't know why your pissed Don, not really my intention fella... If anything it should be me

Give me a shipping date fella or if your that pissed off return the funds

LMK man

Si
07-11-2007, 09:28 PM... (DON)
Hello there okay dont worry its cool between us we will keep in communication until you finally get the sealed game thanks !

don

07-12-2007, 09:13 AM.... (SI)
Thanks Don.

I'm not trying to be an asshat fella, I do get a bit nervous
on internation sales if I've never delt with that person before.

Plus to frustrate me more I'm off work with a back injury and bored to tears mate
so Iam just eager to play lolz...

Jorge sent me a MD2 kit I got yesterday so that should shut me up for awhile.

Si

07-12-2007, 09:55 PM... (DON)
Ahh sorry abt ur back inquiry i feel bad that ost office screwed up grr i am hoping that u get the legend of mana asap i am a honest seller and i have feelings and respect my buyers thanks ! if ur ever looking for any other games LMK i have TONS and will make sure its wrapped and packed right so it gets to u safely

don

Yesterday, 11:17 AM... (SI)
Hey Don.

What news fella ?
If you have any problem shipping this I would
take a return of funds.

LMK

Si.

Yesterday, 12:12 PM... (DON)
Hello there Simon... Paypal has already refunded you your money that's why I did not re send it since paypal told me that they refunded your money in favor of the buyer (you).... but I still have the game package so if your still interested let me know thanks....

Don

WHAT YOUR NOT HAPPY WITH $130... YOU WANT MORE ?

Yesterday, 01:43 PM... (SI)
When did you sent the funds back ?
Re-check it Don because no funds have been returned.

The return addy for funds should be:
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Yesterday, 02:04 PM... (DON)
Hello there again HONESTLY paypal did it automatically by themselves check uier bank or credit card or paypal balance . Paypal said the buyer has been refunded because paypal was in favor of you so I accepted that and followed it... thanks.

Don

Yesterday, 02:40 PM.... (SI)

How can that be possible ?
I opened the dispute but never made a claim ?
It timed out because I gave you the benefit of doubt

I'm telling you Don I have not been refunded...


Sigh... I think theres only one way left to sort this out.

Si



Resolution Centre – Dispute Details


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This dispute closed because it was open for more than 45 days after the transaction date or did not meet other criteria for opening a dispute.



Non-receipt – Case ID: ************

Dispute Closed: 21/07/2007 09:27 BSTLearn more


Transaction ID: ***************


Seller Name & Email: Don *********

Transaction Amount: -$130.00 USD


Transaction Date: 31/05/2007 15:04 BST

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Total Messages: 4
From PayPal: PayPal on 21/07/2007 09:27 BST
This Dispute has timed out.
From Buyer: SIMON ***** on 02/07/2007 15:44 BST
Okey doky Don will do...
Send it via EMS and if you need more $$$ just let me know mate yeah ? Shoot me a PM or something.
And i'll have it sent ASAP.
I have had some issues with paypal giving out the wrong addy info in the past so this could be the reason if you took the details from the paypal funds invoice ? I have re-checked my addy details but it looks fine BUT for some reason they have me as being in france or something (weird, and usually this happens when I'm
using ebay/paypal.)
Anyways, use this addy info:
Simon ******
***********
***********
***********
***********
***********
***********.

From Seller: Don ******* on 02/07/2007 12:19 BST
Hi there Simon no worries I understand how u feel ... I am on vacation and business trip Guess what ? your package got returned to my wife as she told me about this this morning ... said error in address and not right value on the postal form so I will need to re-ship it out to you again so please gimme me your address again so i can get it re- shipped out to you by my wife ...thanks !
don

ll it's been a month Don and still no sealed legend of Mana,
Should have been here by now fella...
It maybe lost in the post I don't know, but I'll have to open the dispute (no disrespect to you Don) but just to cover my end.
When you get back from vacation would you check with the postal
service on your end and see if we can clear this up... Or start a post office investigation.
Si.

PAYPAY REPIES FROM AND TO DON ON OPEN DISPUTE
(NO CLAIM TAKEN UP.)

Yesterday, 02:47 PM... (DON)
Resolution Centre

THREAD IN FEEDBACK IS MADE, MOD HAS ACCESS
TO CHECK ME PAYPAL ACCOUNT AND CONFIMS NO
REFUND.

Yesterday, 08:39 PM.... (DON)
we were talking about it PRIVATELY now you chose to make it to the PUBLIC i am going to NEGATIVE YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my fri:dragb: end had to call me and wake me up from my sleep ! and told me about YOUR DAMN THREAD I am hella pissed thanks !!!!

don

EDIT::tickled:
Yeah Jedah, tell it like it is man...
 
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Jedah Doma

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Well, basically Stellaking just proved my point all the more. He didn't even warn dojosky that he was escalating the claim with Paypal. That's pretty dirty and underhanded. You're just fine when things are going your way, but once you don't feel like waiting anymore, you run to Paypal to get your money back.

The thing is, dojosky was in constant contact with Stellaking through the whole process. dojosky wasn't being unreasonable. He told you he would get your money back and even offered to ship it out via EMS.

Stellaking doesn't seem like a bad guy, but I'd be careful selling anything to him as he seems to get ancy at the drop of a hat.

I dub thee Stellaqueen because you've got a bad case of the sandy vagina.
 

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What escalated claim Jedah ?

Edit: No man I had to chase him all the way to here.

Jedah Doma said:
Well, basically Stellaking just proved my point all the more. He didn't even warn dojosky that he was escalating the claim with Paypal. That's pretty dirty and underhanded. You're just fine when things are going your way, but once you don't feel like waiting anymore, you run to Paypal to get your money back.

The thing is, dojosky was in constant contact with Stellaking through the whole process. dojosky wasn't being unreasonable. He told you he would get your money back and even offered to ship it out via EMS.

Stellaking doesn't seem like a bad guy, but I'd be careful selling anything to him as he seems to get ancy at the drop of a hat.

I dub thee Stellaqueen because you've got a bad case of the sandy vagina.
 
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