Goenitz keeps whuppin' my ass

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Huxley

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Please help me...I'm down to my last straw...I need tips for beating Goenitz in KOF 96! If he had a website it would be <a href="http://www.cheese.com" target="_blank">http://www.cheese.com</a> (check it out!). He ticks me off...

I posted this a few dyas ago, but it must have fallen victim to the hackers...
 
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Originally posted by Huxley:
<strong>Please help me...I'm down to my last straw...I need tips for beating Goenitz in KOF 96! If he had a website it would be <a href="http://www.cheese.com" target="_blank">http://www.cheese.com</a> (check it out!). He ticks me off...

I posted this a few dyas ago, but it must have fallen victim to the hackers...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Originally posted by EX_Andy:
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Hint: Keep his POW meter down by triple-taunting him. He can whack you with a DM even with an empty meter, but he's completely vulnerable when he charges.</strong><hr></blockquote>
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Originally posted by Huxley:
<strong>Please help me...I'm down to my last straw...I need tips for beating Goenitz in KOF 96! If he had a website it would be <a href="http://www.cheese.com" target="_blank">http://www.cheese.com</a> (check it out!). He ticks me off...

I posted this a few dyas ago, but it must have fallen victim to the hackers...</strong><hr></blockquote>

If you have a charge character (one who uses charge motions for attacks), a good idea is to hold back while he does the tornadoes, and then release when one dissipates. Particularly, Leona seems to be a good example: D Ground Slash-->followup will either 1) hit him twice, 2) cause him to teleport, or 3) put you right behind him for a throw. But you'll have to be quick for 3), because if you're close enough to throw him, he's close enough to throw you, or worse, to do his tornado hold DM on you.

For the Psycho Soldiers Team, they seem to be chipping bastards, so you can use this to your advantage. Whenever Goenitz does Yonokaze, jump in with Athena and Phoenix Arrow him, etc.
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Okay!
I use Ryo or Robert for example:
First, when fight starts dash backward! Goenitz will certainly hold his position and start doing Tornados!

He cannot reach the other corner of the screen with them, so at maximum distance you are save!

Charge up your super gauge! Then wait!

When he does another tornado, you have to act with correct timing! Activate Ryoku Ranbu before Tornado vanishes but not too early because otherwise you get caught by it (Try to get a feeling for that). The nearer the tornado is at Goenitz the earlier you can start and vice versa. Instead of blocking Goenitz will try to create a new tornado, but you will hit before he can achieve that!

Even easier with Terry, do just the same with Burn Knuckles you needn´t charge your super gauge!

There is a risky but easiest way with Krauser. Let Goenitz beat you till your life bar flashes. Then get maximum distance to Goenitz and fire slow moving Kaiserwaves rapidly! You can even fire the next one without the last being vanished! Goenitz will have no chance because he reacts very foolish!

Try it out! Though it needs some exercise, you should have the edge very soon!

But first try at normal or easy dificulty, because at higher settings he sometimes changes his strategy (tactics) (but soon he uses his standart again!)

And when using Krauser only use slow Kaiser Waves.
He won´t have a chance! And you can also get him like any other char by firing a slow Blitzball.
He will try to jump or teleport. If he does use kaiser Kick (dp+k), but this also need quick and precise reaction!

Good luck!

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ShinIoriYagami

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Originally posted by polnareef:
<strong>Just beat him...
I understand...
he's quite hard... :cool: </strong><hr></blockquote>

perhaps the most abusive KoF boss even except Igniz he's just cheezey with out mercy <img src="graemlins/loco.gif" border="0" alt="[Loco]" />
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Originally posted by polnareef:
<strong>Just beat him...
I understand...
he's quite hard... :cool: </strong><hr></blockquote>
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Did you try it out?
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ShinIoriYagami

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The best team to use against him for me is team nasty I.E the boss team trust me there so overpowered you cant lose with them.

I used one quater and i beat there game entirley
 
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polnareef

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It's easy...
just use Mr.Big
Wolfgang Krauser...
and...
Geese Howard....
Trust me...
They are good to deal this mess... :cool:
 
the_move

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Or the Kyokugens!

They are predestined for this task (Ryokuranbu)!

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ShinIoriYagami

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Originally posted by polnareef:
<strong>yeah!!...... :cool: </strong><hr></blockquote>

The Yagamis are as well it depends if you know how to use them or not
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Huxley

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Ok! Thanks for the help you guys, I will try my hardest...but I always get that sinking feeling whenever I see his cheesy grin...

But I will win next time! Its just mind games. You gotta believe!
 
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KRIZALID'99v2

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lol I just can't stress how EASY Goenitz is to beat even on Level 8!
When he stops the Tornado Pillar stuff and heads towards you, all you have to do is jump over him, land close to him, and immediatly throw him. He will NOT get you with his Command Throw when you do this. Repeat and you win. EASILY. This method can be used with ANY character of course. Seriously I could throw him all day...

Another easy Goenitz defeat is to simply stay at a distance (not full screen) and throw any projectile/half-projectile...Goenitz will 80% of the time foolishly use his Teleport to you - now simply throw him/hit him as he recovers/re-appears from his teleport...repeat. Easy win again.

I can beat him all the time with my first character without even losing more than 25% health. Thats how easy he really is.
 
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Huxley

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Originally posted by KRIZALID'99v2:
<strong>lol I just can't stress how EASY Goenitz is to beat even on Level 8!
When he stops the Tornado Pillar stuff and heads towards you, all you have to do is jump over him, land close to him, and immediatly throw him. He will NOT get you with his Command Throw when you do this. Repeat and you win. EASILY. This method can be used with ANY character of course. Seriously I could throw him all day...

Another easy Goenitz defeat is to simply stay at a distance (not full screen) and throw any projectile/half-projectile...Goenitz will 80% of the time foolishly use his Teleport to you - now simply throw him/hit him as he recovers/re-appears from his teleport...repeat. Easy win again.

I can beat him all the time with my first character without even losing more than 25% health. Thats how easy he really is.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Rub it in, why dont you?

Naaaah, thanks for the advice. To be honest I haven't had the time to try and beat him yet, so I will see how all these strategies work. Maybe tonight! I will keep you posted :p
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KRIZALID'99v2

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Originally posted by Huxley:
<strong>Rub it in, why dont you?
Naaaah, thanks for the advice. To be honest I haven't had the time to try and beat him yet, so I will see how all these strategies work. Maybe tonight! I will keep you posted :p </strong><hr></blockquote>

lol...well it's just that he seems impossible to people who don't know the tricks to beat him...whereas in actual fact hes a girl scout. I remember when I first fought him - I thought he was impossible! But then...
If you really want a challenege try Rugal in KOF'94.
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Huxley

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YES! YEEEEEEES! IN-YOUR-FACE GOENITZ!!

I finally beat him <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" />

I used Kyo, Mai and Iori, but I only needed Kyo and Mai in the end. I used most of your tactics, including taunting then dashing at him while he's charging, but I found it most useful to hang back while he's doing the tornados then wait till he teleports (egged on by constant projectiles from Mai) OR used the dashing grabs of Kyo and Iori (HCB + K) to run past the tornado

Thanks again, guys!
 
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